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WebML WG/CG F2F Agenda - TPAC 2025 (Kobe, Japan) #35

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@anssiko

TPAC 2025

Web Machine Learning

Working Group / Community Group F2F

10-11 November 2025 - 00:00-07:45 UTC / 09:00-16:45 JST

Logistics

Agenda

This is a Living Agenda. Feedback and suggestions for F2F topics welcome via comments for both TBA topics (To Be Announced) and timing to avoid scheduling conflicts. F2F issues are triaged as Agenda+.

10 November 2025: 🧠 Web Neural Network API

Important

Meeting schedule in Japan Standard Time (JST). Remote participants, please note the meeting may start on 9 November in your timezone.

See the timezone table ...
San Francisco Sun, 9 November 2025 16:00
Boston Sun, 9 November 2025 19:00
London Mon, 10 November 2025 00:00
Berlin Mon, 10 November 2025 01:00
Helsinki Mon, 10 November 2025 02:00
Shanghai Mon, 10 November 2025 08:00
Kobe Mon, 10 November 2025 09:00
UTC Mon, 10 November 2025 00:00 UTC

See also: other locations

▶️ 09:00 (JST) Start

👋 Welcome

  • Intros
  • Agenda bashing

📘 Charter orientation

Tip

Working Group home | charter
Community Group home | charter
Web Machine Learning umbrella site | GH org

  • WG and CG interplay
  • Current scopes, future aspirations
  • New deliverables
  • Coordination with other groups

⏳ Spec orientation

Tip

WebNN API spec | explainer | open issues

  • Triage pass through open issues (triage guidance):
    • breaking changes
    • priorities
    • next steps for the key issues
    • ...

💡 Case study

  • WebNN Small Language Model (SLM) Performance Optimization Case Study (slides) @huningxin

⏸️ 10:30 (JST) Break

Drinks and snacks at Reception Hall, 3F, 4F, 5F.

▶️ 11:00 (JST) Resume

✨ New features

ℹ️ Proposed in issue triage

To be discussed schedule allowing:

⏸️ 12:30 (JST) Lunch

Lunch at Portopia Hotel, South wing, Ohwada 2/3, 1F (map)

▶️ 13:30 (JST) Resume

📢 Customer feedback & collaborations

Tip

See WebNN Awasome for community feedback, demos, presentations, samples, testimonials, tutorials, videos, and more. And APIs as ladders essay as food for thought.

TBA Discuss customer feedback, including end-users, frameworks, independent software vendors.

Proposed topics:

🤝 Interop and technical cross-group coordination

  • Web Platform Tests coverage, open issues.
  • TBA Interop issues arising from backend implementation differences that warrant WebNN spec changes.
  • TBA Technical coordination topics with WebGPU, WebAssembly, WebRTC, other groups.

🚀 Implementation plans and trials

Next step for implementations, Origin Trial or equivalent, new requirements or feedback from updates in backends, frameworks.

Kick off this session with demos that exercise diverse hardware accelerators:

Possible discussion topics:

  • TBA Browser vendors' trials
  • Backends: Windows ML, LiteRT, MLDrift, Core ML
  • Frameworks: ONNX Runtime Web, Transformers.js, LiteRT.js

⏸️ 15:00 (JST) Break

Drinks and snacks at Reception Hall, 3F, 4F, 5F.

▶️ 15:30 (JST) Resume

Horizontals

Get to know experts behind horizontal groups.

😇 Ethics

🌱 Sustainability

🔍 Privacy & Security

🫶 Wrap up

  • Synthesis of key outcomes, next steps

⏹️ 16:45 (JST) End

  • 🍱 Group dinner (see 1 and 2)

11 November 2025: 🧪 Incubations: WebMCP, Built-in AI APIs

Meeting schedule in Japan Standard Time (JST). Remote participants, please note the meeting may start on 10 November in your timezone.

See the timezone table ...
San Francisco Mon, 10 November 2025 16:00
Boston Mon, 10 November 2025 19:00
London Tue, 11 November 2025 00:00
Berlin Tue, 11 November 2025 01:00
Helsinki Tue, 11 November 2025 02:00
Shanghai Tue, 11 November 2025 08:00
Kobe Tue, 11 November 2025 09:00
UTC Tue, 11 November 2025 00:00 UTC

See also: other locations

▶️ 09:45 (JST) Start

👋 Welcome

  • Intros
  • Agenda bashing

🤖 WebMCP

⏸️ 11:00 (JST) Break

Drinks and snacks at Reception Hall, 3F, 4F, 5F.

▶️ 11:30 (JST) Resume

🤖 WebMCP

Other proposed topics

⏸️ 13:00 (JST) Lunch

Lunch at Portopia Hotel, South wing, Ohwada 2/3, 1F (map)

▶️ 14:00 (JST) Resume

💬 Built-in AI APIs overview

Overview, Origin Trial feedback @michaelwasserman

💬 Prompt API

Tip

Prompt API spec | explainer

✍️ Writing Assistance APIs

Tip

Writing Assistance APIs spec | explainer

⏸️ 16:00 (JST) Break

Drinks and snacks at Reception Hall, 3F, 4F, 5F.

▶️ 16:30 (JST) Resume

🌍 Translator and Language Detector APIs

Tip

Translator and Language Detector APIs spec | explainer

  • TBA 2-3 key open issues

🔎 Proofreader API

Tip

Proofreader API explainer

  • TBA 2-3 key open issues

🌱 Proposals for new incubations

🫶 Wrap up

  • Synthesis of key outcomes, next steps

⏹️ 17:30 (JST) End

  • 🍣 Group dinner (see 1 and 2)

Activity

  1. anssiko commented on Oct 3, 2025

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    Quoting what is said above to drive the point home:

    This is a Living Agenda. Feedback welcome via comments for both TBA topics (To Be Announced) and timing to avoid scheduling conflicts.

  2. anssiko commented on Oct 6, 2025

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    MemberAuthor

    @simoneonofri to identify and propose the right experts to participate in the security discussions from the Security Interest Group and Threat Modeling Community Group.

  3. anssiko commented on Oct 16, 2025

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    MemberAuthor

    I've added Device selection as a F2F topic we want to build consensus on. This falls under the "new features" session. Thank you @mtavenrath and the NVIDIA team for offering to help with this feature.

    Further agenda topic proposals welcome via comments in this issue, or via direct email to me.

  4. anssiko commented on Oct 16, 2025

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    MemberAuthor

    @michael-n-cooper, the WebML CG would welcome a11y experts interested in agentic web features to join us at TPAC F2F #35 to discuss how the agentic web feature WebMCP could help improve accessibility. We've now exploring a complementary Declarative API #26 for it and are looking into ARIA mappings. This a11y discussion is currently slated for 11 November 2025 11:00 JST.

  5. anssiko commented on Oct 23, 2025

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    MemberAuthor

    We have added a slew of compelling WebNN demos to the "Implementation plans and trials" session on Monday. From this demo session, we'll transition to discuss browser vendors' trial plans, dissect the latest implementation experience across the layers to inform the WebNN spec development.

  6. anssiko commented on Oct 28, 2025

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    MemberAuthor

    For WebMCP privacy & security considerations discussion, please familiarize yourself with webmachinelearning/webmcp#45 Credits to @victorhuangwq for this pre-work.

  7. anssiko commented on Oct 29, 2025

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    MemberAuthor

    Added to the WebNN customer feedback & collaborations session:

    RTC-style workloads with response time requirements webmachinelearning/webnn#898 via @handellm / Google Meet

  8. anssiko commented on Oct 31, 2025

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    MemberAuthor

    If we get our calendars aligned, @mgifford, co-chair of the Sustainable Web IG, will join us on Monday afternoon within the 15:30-16:45 JST timebox to discuss important work done in that group. I want us to collaborate on webmachinelearning/webnn#861 and use this F2F as a kick off to connect people interested to work at this impactful intersection of AI & sustainability.

  9. mgifford commented on Oct 31, 2025

    @mgifford

    I think I'll be able to make it @anssiko

  10. anssiko commented on Nov 3, 2025

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    MemberAuthor

    The WebMCP topics and their priority order for Tuesday have been refined. Please see the first post for the latest agenda. Shout out to @khushalsagar for the triage.

  11. AlexDawsonUK commented on Nov 3, 2025

    @AlexDawsonUK

    I can join the 15:30-16:45 JST timebox (remotely) alongside @mgifford RE the Sustainable Web IG work.

  12. anssiko commented on Nov 4, 2025

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    MemberAuthor

    Here's an update on the start and end times and room information (floor map):

    Monday: 09:00–16:45 JST, Floor 4 - 403
    Tuesday: 09:45–17:30 JST, Floor 4 - 405

    Please note the Community Group meeting on Tue 11 November starts a bit later, at 9:45 JST, due to morning breakouts. Break and lunch schedule pushed forward accordingly on that day.

  13. anssiko commented on Nov 5, 2025

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    MemberAuthor

    Prompt API and Writing Assistance APIs:

    • We have added F2F agenda topics for these APIs. Thank you @reillyeon for the triage. Please see the first post for the latest agenda.

    Translator and Language Detector APIs and Proofreader API:

    Group dinner:

    • I have added a few references to serve as food for thought (pun intended), see 1 and 2. Please investigate the options. Props to the local W3C community, @mgifford and his AI agents for curating this data for us.
  14. anssiko commented on Nov 7, 2025

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    MemberAuthor

    The WebNN new features session has received new content:

    Thank you both for your contributions. I think the new features session is now fully booked. Please feel free to submit additional proposals, we'll put them on the waiting list and may discuss them over the dinner.

  15. anssiko commented on Nov 9, 2025

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    MemberAuthor

    @simoneonofri will join us on Monday to discuss threat modeling work that's under way in the Security Interest Group and Threat Modeling Community Group. We continue to build stronger connections with the security-focused groups and experts to further improve security characteristics of the WebNN API.

  16. added a commit that references this issue on Nov 27, 2025
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