Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 December 20
- Template:EIN (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
This template does not seem to give any useful information; the /doc itself says that the search only works in certain circumstances, and I checked about half o the extant uses and none of them give a result. Unless it can be fixed I figure this template should probably be deleted. Primefac (talk) 15:00, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. This template is useful to display the identifier whether or not the identifier is linked to a resolver. I will remove the link for now since the IRS seems to have removed the one it had been using. There's a list of possible resolvers at d:Property:P1297#P3303, any one of which we could link to now. In the future, I may try to make a page to link to all of them from a page similar to Special:BookSources, as described at d:Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2024/06 § Get all values of a Wikidata property from page history. Daask (talk) 18:48, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Just noting that if the template itself is deleted, the parameters/values passed to the template will still be there, e.g.
{{EIN|09876}}
would just becomeEIN: 09876
, but that does not need a template to function. Primefac (talk) 19:28, 12 December 2024 (UTC)- Even linking to EIN (identifier) or its redirect target Employer Identification Number is beneficial to explain what "EIN" means. Without the external link, this is a typing-aid template. However, I am hopeful that a link target can be restored in the near future. Daask (talk) 21:11, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Just noting that if the template itself is deleted, the parameters/values passed to the template will still be there, e.g.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 21:29, 20 December 2024 (UTC)- Just noting that I've thought about it and would be okay with it being a typing aid template. Primefac (talk) 21:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've written a user script to make clicking on EINs on Wikipedia display all the resolvers on Wikidata. The script is at User:Daask/MultiResolver. Daask (talk) 02:09, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Articles by Quality (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Category class (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Propose merging Template:Articles by Quality with Template:Category class.
These two templates seem to do similar job, with slightly different styling. I suggest we merge them. I slightly prefer the styling of {{Articles by Quality}} but that might be my bias because I wrote that template in 2008. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge & create a styling parameter ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 22:21, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Do we really need two different styles? Let's go for harmony and consistency — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Template:Articles by Quality, better styling. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 09:29, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: I have converted {{category class}} to Lua. It is now using Module:Articles by quality — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:48, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: There's also Template:Taskforce articles by quality, should it be merged as well? Aluxosm (talk) 11:40, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. I like consistency, so I slightly oppose a styling parameter. However, I would not lose sleep over one being included. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in Russia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Foreseeable that template as it is will become too broad in scope and has been split in four preemptively. (see: Soviet Union, United Kingdom, United States) DemocracyDeprivationDisorder (talk) 16:54, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Template:GBvosi (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
This template generated map links to the old-maps.co.uk website, which permanently closed some time ago. Mauls (talk) 16:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Two albums. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 13:37, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Only two albums in navbox. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Nazxul (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Only two albums and links to former members. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 13:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in the Soviet Union (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template as it is has too broad a scope and has since been split into five. DemocracyDeprivationDisorder (talk) 09:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in the United Kingdom (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template as it is has too broad a scope and has since been split into ten. DemocracyDeprivationDisorder (talk) 07:28, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Greater Manchester bus route 103 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Greater Manchester bus route 163 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Greater Manchester bus route 199 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Greater Manchester bus route 201 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Greater Manchester bus route 203 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Greater Manchester bus route 263 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Greater Manchester bus route 330 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Greater Manchester bus route 471 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Greater Manchester bus route CAT5 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Greater Manchester bus route X50 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:Greater Manchester bus route X22 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
All these route templates have not been used since October due to this Afd. If the creator wants to keep them as they work on creating the respective articles for these to be used to meet notability standards, then it can be userfied until ready for mainspace use. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:57, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Articles should first be written, in part to establish notability and a place to use these, before these are created. Gonnym (talk) 10:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I have seen most of these templates before due to poor editing. Now the route articles are gone, there is no reason to keep them. The Banner talk 20:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Unused and graphs have not displayed for a while. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- This is part of the Phabricator issue, and as the creator of this template, it honestly wasn't particularly useful and was a pain to update even when it worked. I have no objection to deleting it at all. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 16:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per author's comment. Gonnym (talk) 10:02, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Template:KirstenboschMap (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Unused map. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: please don't delete, I am still working on this with the intention of using it on the Kirstenbosch article page. --Discott (talk) 10:45, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Why isn't it used yet? Gonnym (talk) 10:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
No longer used and graphs are not displayed for almost a year if I'm not mistaken. If wanted to be kept, can be userfied or a subpage of some kind. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- should wait until the new chart extension is deployed to enwiki. Then the data can be migrated. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Chart/Project Matthewmayer (talk) 16:31, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Only two links. Not needed as both links can be found from one another's article. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Influencers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Scope is far too broad and ill-defined for a navbox (per WP:NAVBOX: small, well-defined group of articles; The articles should refer to each other, to a reasonable extent). This could easily grow to encompass anyone famous on social media (thousands of people?) and I foresee a lot of arguments about inclusion. — The Earwig (talk) 00:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: I was literally writing up a nomination and refreshed the template and saw this. I'd argue it's not a helpful or useful template and, if you look at Category:Social media influencers, it's very unclear what should and shouldn't be included. If we included everyone for which that term is applicable to it would be far beyond the size of anything that would be reasonable. There's thousands of people who refer to themselves as such and the selected entries don't seem to follow any particular logic except possibly WP:ILIKEIT. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator & josh - influencer, the title link, actually defines the term as someone "who is considered influential"; in theory, that definition could refer to literally anyone. The template would be too large and lose its present usefulness, if any. Staraction (talk | contribs) 00:09, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment, I created the template prior to discovering the social media influencers category, and almost certainly wouldn't had I had noticed how broad that category is. I will however point out that the list is based predominantly on Rolling Stone / The Times lists of top influencers/content creators, and otherwise most of these weren't referenced in their BLP as being an influencer, so were not included for that very reason. The point being that I'd estimate 80-90% of those included in the social media influencers category are not described as influencers in their BLPs. It's merely a "catch all" category for notable social media users at this point. As a reference point after the Influencer article split off from Internet celebrity, I disambiguated a lot of links (ie [[Internet celebrity|Social media influencer]] etc and noticed how the majority (maybe 60/40) were internet celebrities, rather than influencers, but had nonetheless been categorised as such, with internet celebrities category having very few inclusions by comparison. So this might be a cats issue rather than template to be honest. I otherwise gave up searching for more inclusions after I was scrapping the bottom of the barrol reliable sources wise, so I don't think there are many left at this point. So given the context, I think this template may well be useful, and there doesn't appear to be any conflict over who should be included or not (at least not yet), or size issues based on the inclusion being seemingly very broad, so possibly WP:WAIT applies here to see if there are any actual issues first. CNC (talk) 18:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete because there's no evident cutoff. Ideally, this template would link to every blue-linked influencer article on Wikipedia, and that's unwieldy. Not to mention different influencers have different content, so a food influencer's article would have this template in it, linking to video-game influencers. Categories and lists are better for organizing influencer articles, and navigation templates grouping influencers should be avoided. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 18:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Way to broad.--Surv1v4l1st ╠Talk║Contribs╣ 03:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)