Talk:Poa pratensis

Photo

The photo on this page does not show Smooth meadow Grass/Kentucky Blue grass19:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I concur. The ligule is too long, the veins are too apparent, and the blade lacks the two lines parallel to the midvein. --Cbrownhead 16:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Native to North America

According to the United States Dept. of Agriculture, Poa pratensis or Kentucky bluegrass is both native to the US and also introduced [[1]] . Various subspecies are purely native: P.p. subsp. alpigena, P.p. subsp. colpodea and P.p. subsp. pratensis. P.p. subsp. irrigata is an introduced subspecies. From this, it appears that either there are subspecies that developed in the US after the introduction of the Old World plant or the plant existed in North America as well as the Old World. Since Poa pratensis is identified as both native and introduced, the latter conclusion does seem to be suggested. In this case, the first paragraph of this article should be amended to indicate that P. pratensis is also native to North America. In any case, Poa pratensis should be at least co-extensively identified as Kentucky bluegrass. Does anyone have information about this? NaySay 18:27, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the article accordingly. I see the older version listed Poa Pratensis as native to North America, and has been changed multiple times. The topic is highly political to some at the moment, and the most accurate language would reflect that there is debate and disagreement over its native status in North America. Ladybird Johnson foundation, a reputable scientific source used in other wiki articles, states there are native subspecies. https://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=POPR

Fernald 1950, Great Plains Flora Assoc 1986, Gleason and Cronquist 1953 All list it as a North American native. I can find no recent scientific studies claiming otherwise. Luckymortal1977 (talk) 19:50, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Page moved. Ucucha 21:15, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Smooth Meadow-grass → Poa pratensis — Change to scientific name due to disagreement on which common name is better.--Ridge Runner (talk) 08:49, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose~~ [proposed change to bluegrass]. It's only called bluegrass in America; it's called meadow-grass everywhere else (and perhaps in America too). Actually those crude numbers of around 5:3 show that "bluegrass" is not overwhelmingly dominant. We could avoid this language problem by calling it Poa pratensis – as recommended in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (flora). Why don't we change it to that? Richard New Forest (talk) 09:50, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I think that's a good idea and have changed the suggestion accordingly.--Ridge Runner (talk) 10:08, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support new suggestion: change to Poa pratensis. Richard New Forest (talk) 20:26, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support change to Poa pratensis. At least in the context of turfgrass in the United States, I suspect that "Kentucky bluegrass" is overwhelmingly the common name, but I have no reason to doubt the suggestion that other names are used in other contexts/places. Faced with this kind of discrepency, the scientific name seems like the only good solution. Kingdon (talk) 21:34, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support move to Poa pratensis as surely the name used most widely in reliable sources, and also recognized in all parts of the world. First Light (talk) 05:34, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Lawns

Should there should be a section here about how bluegrass relates to house lawns, as it is one of the most common cultivars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.48.6.139 (talk) 14:39, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blue

For the life of me I cannot find a picture of the allegedly blue flower heads. Can someone please add a picture? 84.109.179.187 (talk) 07:27, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Poa pratensis

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Poa pratensis's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "iucn":

From Ringlet: van Swaay, C.; Wynhoff, I.; Verovnik, R.; et al. (2010). "Aphantopus hyperantus". IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. 2010: e.T174327A7051011. Retrieved 1 July 2019.
From Small heath (butterfly): van Swaay, C., Wynhoff, I., Verovnik, R., Wiemers, M., López Munguira, M., Maes, D., Sasic, M., Verstrael, T., Warren, M. & Settele, J. (2010). "Coenonympha pamphilus". IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. 2010: e.T174461A7076327. Retrieved 13 December 2020.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
From Mule deer: Sanchez Rojas, G. & Gallina Tessaro, S. (2008). "Odocoileus hemionus". IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. 2008. Retrieved 8 April 2009.{{cite iucn}}: old-form url (help) Database entry includes a brief justification of why this species is of least concern.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 09:08, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]