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Ghee

Ghee needs a definition.

Otherwise, this is a good article - it told me what I wanted to know.

Thanks very much.

Entwhiz (talk) 22:52, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Azid is not a name for Korma.

See this. wildboy211 (talk) 05:37, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it matters at this point. Regardless if this is true or not, it is now an alternate name for the dish. Guess it just shows the power Wikipedia has? 50.106.83.125 (talk) 07:09, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No. It does matter. There is not a single reliable source to state that "azid" is korma, there are 3 blogs and a photo site which have blatantly taken it from Wikipedia. There is no reason the vandalism should be included in a food article. The section and more importantly the mention in the lead needs to be removed. Worm^TT(talk) 07:14, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the section, there should be some better sources before it is re-added. Worm^TT(talk) 07:56, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It'll be a good idea to see what happened with the Brazilian aardvark article to judge how to handle this, if indeed it is true. --86.159.26.40 (talk) 08:43, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If the newyorker was reporting on how a korma became an azid, I'd agree with you. It's not. It's a handful of blogs and a reddit account. This is run of the mill vandalism, that lasted for 2 years. Worm^TT(talk) 08:46, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also, note that the coati article mentions nothing about the Brazilian Aardvark incident - and Brazilian aardvark redirects to circular reporting. There is no reason to include azid in this article. Worm^TT(talk) 08:48, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Then you know how to handle this, that was my point. Look at past precedent. --86.159.26.40 (talk) 08:54, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, which is why I removed it from the article, but was reverted. I'll leave it a little longer before removing again, to allow for any other comments. Worm^TT(talk) 09:12, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I vote to remove it, this sort of thing should be cleaned up, and can be reinstated if there is a reputable source for the name later.PolymerMan (talk) 09:35, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is a traditional dish of Turco-Persian origin. For any name to be considered an "official" name, surely it must be something used by people who are associated with said dish. Even if there are a 1000 articles online, most of which happen to refer back to wikipedia anyways, i don't see how it becomes an official name of the dish. People can have a million slangs for any given item or activity, should wikipedia start listing every single one of them? Should the article on "cocaine" be renamed to "bird" since many Carribeans refer to it as such? I hope users get what I'm saying. "Azid" is a very uncommon name in itself, but from what I gather it means "arm", though I maybe wrong its that uncommon of a name, unless its meant to be a variation of "Yazeed" or "Aziz". In either case, it has no meaningful relation to any food item. DA1 (talk) 09:46, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed it again. The fact that a Wikipedia article was vandalized in the past, and that some people believed the vandalism, is not relevant to the subject of the article! Neiltonks (talk) 12:22, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I note that there's a reddit thread on the matter and the people adding to the article are either IPs or new editors (including someone recently registered with the OP name on reddit - claiming to be the original vandal). I've requested page protection. Worm^TT(talk) 12:28, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipediocracy is making fun of wikipedia. See http://wikipediocracy.com/2014/07/20/how-pranks-hoaxes-and-manipulation-undermine-the-reliability-of-wikipedia/.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Septate (talk • contribs) 4:25, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Kavurma

Kavurma should not redirect here. Although it is cognate, it is not synonymous, and is not a curry. --عبد المؤمن (talk) 14:02, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. You write Korma (from Turkish kavurma) and also The word korma or kurma (قورمه in Persian)[4] is derived from Urdu ḳormā or ḳormah That is not very clear... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.212.116.112 (talk) 12:12, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology

Note that 'korma', the usual term in English, is a transliteration of an Urdu word meaning to 'braise'.

While 'korma' ultimately appears to come from the Turkic qawirma, 'fried', the same root word has influenced a variety of other languages and dishes, most of which have no culinary relation to korma, other than perhaps incorporating a step of frying (see ref. from Perry, 2009, in the article, where all this is detailed). The names of these other dishes are neither alternate spellings for 'korma' (the braised dish) nor are they alternative spellings for qawirma (the original term).

Hopefully this will clear up the issue above. Svejk74 (talk) 09:02, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

On a related note, looking at the articles merged into this one some time back, it looks like the sabzi qovurma of Azerbaijan (a stew of green herbs and meat) is probably more directly related in a culinary sense to Persian ghormeh sabzi (a stew of green herbs and meat]]) than the Mughal korma. I've just found a reference (Elliott, Azerbaijan, 2004) stating "Qovurma: Various, often fruity dishes which are started by frying meat in butter. Although often translated as 'kourma' it is not related to the Indian korma".

Perhaps this dish deserves its own article? Svejk74 (talk) 10:16, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Created qovurma and moved content, plus additional referencesSvejk74 (talk) 13:43, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Azid psa

Users, Azid is NOT an alternate of korma. If anyone claims that is what true they are wrong. Some user added it to this page as a joke many year ago and readers belived that. But that is not accurate. I never heard of azid being an alternate of korma. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.209.173 (talk) 20:54, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]