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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:48, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, out of date, and has [citation needed]s hardcoded into it Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:45, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:48, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Unwieldy side bar. Somehow still has first-person commentary in it Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:44, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:48, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, unclear use Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:42, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:49, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:41, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:49, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, no clear use Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:30, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:50, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, unlikely to be used Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:50, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, unlikely to be used Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:22, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:50, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, seems to be a test template but may be too old for a {{db-test}} Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:18, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:50, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and outdated Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:17, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:50, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, seems redundant to {{Energy Ministries and Departments of India}} Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:16, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:51, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Eidi-cutoff (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Eidi-cutoff-years (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Eidi-cutoff-decades (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All unused. {{Eidi-century-table}} was already deleted Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:15, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 05:23, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, use unclear Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 01:51, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused rail line templates for the New South Wales route. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:50, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

They were in Special:WantedTemplates in 2014 but I don't have the tools (quick dump scan?) to know why and since when they aren't used anymore. JackPotte (talk) 13:11, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 01:51, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and only one article. The political party only has one article for its members. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:55, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 01:51, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused subpages for Template:NYC (band). Has no effect on the overall template. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:11, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 30. Izno (talk) 21:50, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 01:52, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:46, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 01:52, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Both unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:50, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 01:52, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navboxes but unnecessary as the main template for the league already has the same list of teams from each of these seasons. At least the teams that are currently active. There certainly doesn't need to be a navbox for each season. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:57, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 01:34, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused image warning, unlikely to have use Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 22:02, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 26. Izno (talk) 05:43, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 29. (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 13:49, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 26. Izno (talk) 05:45, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:2022 FIFA World Cup qualification – CAF Second Round group tables

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 30. Izno (talk) 21:50, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 19:29, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused set of TAFI template subpages. Appear to be part of an abandoned experiment to set up Wikipedia:TAFI random generation. I have corresponded with the creator of these templates in advance of this nomination. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:33, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:35, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused template containing no content -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 10:14, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:42, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We don't need to change the template, because we don't learn Chinese characters. Did Q28 make a mess today? 05:20, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:49, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete no longer used after Special:Diff/570405583. The nomination statement makes no sense, as this template has nothing to do with learn[ing] Chinese characters * Pppery * it has begun... 00:34, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Transwiki to Templates.wikia and if Wikiversity or Wikisource accepts this form of material. Wikimedia should have a GPL/GFDL archive of MediaWiki-coding coded material for the wider wiki world community to enrich the web properly, and have a proper non-WMF-only wiki-coding world community. -- 65.92.246.43 (talk) 01:20, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 25. plicit 12:37, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 25. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:42, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:35, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It has no use and should not be used. Did Q28 make a mess today? 04:54, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 25. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:41, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a test that was never used. Did Q28 make a mess today? 04:49, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There's no use. It looks like a test. Did Q28 make a mess today? 04:47, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:30, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is no evidence that this template will be used. Did Q28 make a mess today? 04:46, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:41, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The purpose is not clear and there is no example of the used. Did Q28 make a mess today? 04:44, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:39, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The CSS is no longer used by the template. Did Q28 make a mess today? 04:43, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:38, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since we no longer use this CSS, it should be removed. Did Q28 make a mess today? 04:41, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Not "no longer", "not yet". It was a project I started to move the POTD mess of templates at least for the main page over to flex styles that I haven't come back to but is near the front of my mind recently. Izno (talk) 05:57, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A failed attempt resulted in the template no longer being used. Did Q28 make a mess today? 04:40, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An obsolete template. Did Q28 make a mess today? 04:40, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:30, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's not necessary. He created it too early. Did Q28 make a mess today? 04:39, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:29, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's too early to create it at this time. Did Q28 make a mess today? 04:38, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep per discussion. plicit 12:47, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The CSS page is not used. Did Q28 make a mess today? 04:37, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:37, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The template does not use this CSS, so we should delete it. Did Q28 make a mess today? 04:32, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:46, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

unused Frietjes (talk) 15:18, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per nom and Pppery. There's nothing unwieldy about this template (and if there is, that suggests other remedy than keeping it in the template space: either total deletion or a better template). --Izno (talk) 06:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Adjacent communities. Primefac (talk) 11:44, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Geographic Location 2 with Template:Adjacent communities.
I don't see why we need two of these Frietjes (talk) 15:44, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with merge into Adjacent communities (or Template:Adjacent jurisdictions - better name actually). As far as I can tell, Template:Geographic Location 2 is an old version of Adjacent communities and only has extra compass points. After inserting this template for 1000s of places, I can tell that those extra compass points are not needed and unhelpful. So, just a plain redirect would also suffice if possible. If that is not possible, then those extra compass points should be deprecated or retired. -- P 1 9 9   17:21, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Don't merge. My many pages need the extra compass points provided by GeoLoc2, which are not provided by Adjacent communities. Ron Clausen (talk) 08:25, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The extra directions are needless precision. This template is only a navigational aid to go from one article to the next, not a precise map. If you need to stack multiple places, just use breaks (<br/>), see for example Torsby Municipality.
If this template is kept, it should at least be reformatted to look the same as Adjacent communities. -- P 1 9 9   14:18, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have no problem with reformatting it to look the same. My issue is losing the information at the hundreds of places that I have used GeoLoc2. If someone is volunteering to make all those updates, let me know. Ron Clausen (talk) 09:19, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
apparently there is a misunderstanding of what "merge means"? I don't see how information is lost by merging. Frietjes (talk) 23:08, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ron Clausen, when you say "do not merge" it seems like you are saying "do not delete". A "merge" would preserve the extra directions. The original proposal was not the delete anything, as far as I can tell. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:29, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK, as long as no data is lost, and the extra directions are not lost in the merge. "Merge" sounded to me like the extra directions might be deleted. Looking at this new template on pages it has now appeared sometimes seems awkward because mountains or such are not always exactly "Adjacent", but may be at a distance. Ron Clausen (talk) 20:53, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Location and communities are two separate things. If any town or city has the Geographic location template that it should be removed. It's redundant to the adjacent communities which is used at the bottom of these articles for the county, particularly in the U.S., where the town is in. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:36, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't let the names of the templates fool you: they do the exact same thing (in fact, template:Adjacent communities was formerly template:Geographic location). GeoLoc2 was just a fork of GeoLoc with a few extra compass directions. And as far as I know, there is no instance where an article has both templates. -- P 1 9 9   15:07, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
lol, see Template:Geographic location ... Frietjes (talk) 23:09, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:22, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, pretty strange that it was redirected to Adjacent communities instead of Geographic location 2. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:43, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
logs are useful. Frietjes (talk) 21:51, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I saw the edit history but the RM proposal is ridiculous., but I can now see the need for merge, but the Geographic location template that is used in any articles not at the bottom should be removed. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:08, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge, two templates that do the same thing. As far as I can tell, all that is required for the merge is to split the row with the up and down arrows into multiple cells. We can always track and/or deprecate the extra 4 directions. Using tables to convey directions is bad for accessibility, but using <br> for lists or in place of table cells is worse. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:26, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge, though I would welcome a larger discussion on the utility of these templates at all. --Izno (talk) 22:38, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Izno: FYI, a discussion on this template already took place in the recent past, see Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2017_August_6#Template:Geographic_location. Remember that this template only serves as a navigational tool, similar to other navboxes, it's not meant to be a detailed map. -- P 1 9 9   14:31, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).