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Alpha Delta

I saw your DAB improvements today, and added a missing item to the list of groups known as Alpha Delta. While adding the DAB page for ΑΔ to the Project Watchlist, I noted a fourth group named Alpha Delta, a SUNY regional sorority, that had devolved from that name into a group of locals called "Alpha Delta ____", where the blank was their chapter designation. This could become an interesting article, if either of us wish to pursue it. Noted at the SUNY Oswego chapter page, and probably elsewhere. The Brockport link they list is dead. Jax MN (talk) 16:42, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Jax MN Feels similar to what happened with Delta Kappa.Naraht (talk) 17:46, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Jax MN The link from the adh page to the one at brockport is broken, but it exists in archive.org https://web.archive.org/web/20090727184045/http://www.brockport.edu/~library1/arch4c.htmNaraht (talk) 19:08, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• Cortland - https://books.google.com/books?id=bwBIAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA10&dq=%22alpha+delta%22+brockport+cortland&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiH3ZzZq6D1AhVOkHIEHeN6CtMQ6AF6BAgKEAI#v=onepage&q=%22alpha%20delta%22%20brockport%20cortland&f=false
• Geneseo - It appears that the group mentioned at List of LGBT and LGBT-friendly fraternities and sororities at SUNY Geneseo is one of them.Naraht (talk) 19:35, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

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Hello, I saw that you helped make some improvements to a new draft page I created, Draft:Jo Bamford. Would you have any more suggestions, or do you think it's ready to be reviewed again? Thanks for your time --Eatthecrow (talk) 21:50, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Eatthecrow I think the only thing that I did was remove a nowiki tag. But quickly looking at it again, I have a few comments.

1. The statement about the "A 2015 Reuters report"... doesn't seem to be relevant to this article, it appears to be about the grandfather, father and uncle.
2. The "late 2021" entry seems a bit off. I'm not sure how the quote should be included. :(
3. It may be tough to separate Jo from his family. Notability is not inherited, but I think he may be notable separately. It may also make sense (eventually) to have a hatnote make sure people aren't looking for his grandfather or vice versa.

You may want to ask the person who rejected it, you are pretty close.Naraht (talk) 23:48, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I appreciate you taking the time to look at the article with those suggestions. I went and made some tweaks and added a hatnote to differentiate this article from his grandfather's. Synoman Barris reviewed and rejected the article - she's on a sabbatical away from Wikipedia for an undetermined amount of time, due to stress. I tried reaching out last month but haven't heard back. What do you think I should do in this case? Eatthecrow (talk) 18:30, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

EatthecrowSorry, missed your response. I'm willing to approve it, but right now the article exists in mainspace as a redirect to his father. I've marked the redirect for possible fast uncontroversial deletion. Whoever deletes it should either move it to mainspace *or* let me know so that I can do so. If it doesn't happen within 3 or 4 days, I'll look into doing a formal delete of the redirect which shouldn't be controversial. At absolute worst, it should be in mainspace by the end of the month. Naraht (talk) 14:26, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

That sounds great, I appreciate you helping me along with this process. Lmk if there's anything I can do. I don't have any experience with redirects..might be better if someone more experienced can do that part. Eatthecrow (talk) 17:54, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Eatthecrow Sorry, I missed that it had been deleted within 24 hours of the request. I've moved it to mainspace. Still needs categories and Wikiprojects on the talk page. Take a look at the equivalents for his relatives and see what makes sense. Often someone will come through when they see an article with no categories and do it.Naraht (talk) 19:51, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

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I'm conscious that varying an editor's comments, in even the slightest form, can be regarded as inappropriate, so am just indicating I varied the formating of your contribution at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Feena Bonoan to make the flow of contributions more readible. Feel free to revert if not appropriate. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 22:52, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Goldsztajn thank you for both fixing it and notifying me. In terms of opinion on the AFD, I think we are absolutely on the same page. I found the cow story as well.Naraht (talk) 23:06, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect 120-gram and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 8#120-gram until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 12:00, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

For Delta Sigma Delta

From Baird's 20th. p.V-76-77

• Sigma Sigma — University of Washington — 1947
• Alpha Alpha (second chapter with this name) — South Carolina — 1972
• Alpha Gamma — University of Florida — 1975

"repeated from the 19th edition" Jax MN (talk) 20:46, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

I missed Sigma Sigma and Alpha Alpha in the 1976 in trying to fill in the empties. the reissue of Alpha Alpha is interesting, as the Georgetown U Dental School didn't close until 1987. I'll take a peek at the 20th next time I go upstairs.Naraht (talk) 19:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

I cross-checked the list you had posted so far. Your list has about a dozen additional chapters that never made it to Baird's 20th, and I found only these three missing from the other reference you cited. So in combination, this will likely provide us the complete list. The national website does not list chapters. Jax MN (talk) 20:46, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Jax MN The *legacy* version of the national website does. That's where I started from, see the first ref in the section.Naraht (talk) 21:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Jax MN I've got to step away for a while. I'm taking off the Under Construction, so if you want to keep linking the Dental Schools or transform it into a table, have fun. :)Naraht (talk) 21:06, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

{{U}Jax MN}} Pretty much done with gathering chapter data. Presumably this will end up as a page of its own and table-ized, just like Psi Omega and Xi Psi Phi. And then just to complete the four, I should do the same gathering for Alpha Omega. I think "Going Greek" might have a list.Naraht (talk) 21:01, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Naraht, I've finished the adjustment of the list into a table. I wrote to the group's Grand Scribe but haven't heard back. I have some doubts about the validity of 44 chapters being active, but the aging references we have still support this, as does the text of the organizations website. Also, I'm unclear whether these should be called undergrad chapters since dental school is a graduate program. Jax MN (talk) 18:39, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

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User:Xyl 54/sandbox 12

Hello Naraht
I notice you edited one of my sandboxes the other day; I was a bit puzzled by your comment, as the categories you altered were (I thought) already disabled. OTOH the last category (which appears to have been enabled by Primebot in February) wasn’t. Were they showing up somewhere, to draw your attention? My apologies, if so. Regards, Xyl 54 (talk) 23:47, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Xyl 54 Yes, that's basically it. "World War II destroyers of the United Kingdom" was showing up as a mainspace cat which made the sandbox show up in Wikipedia:Database reports/Polluted categories and the tool that I used replaces the [[Category: with [[:Category: for mainspace categories (I'm not quite sure of the exact strings that it looks for and replaces) but I don't think it knows that removing the ending brackets will remove it from other cats. Let me know if you want the name of the tool for more research. Happy editing.Naraht (talk) 12:33, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

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USER IS DEMONSTRATING CLEAR AND MALIFICENT PATTERS OF OWNERSHIP TO ALL USERS. ADMINSTRATION INVESTIGATION RECOMMENDED. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhiAlpha3000 (talk • contribs) 18:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Response on talk page for article.PhiAlpha3000Naraht (talk) 19:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

May I ask to which article this discussion refers? Jax MN (talk) 19:51, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Jax MN List of Delta Kappa Epsilon chapters.Naraht (talk) 20:14, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

I actually involved with this group. I really shouldn't be involved editing it. I have CONFLICT OF INTEREST PhiAlpha3000 (talk) 21:15, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Appreciate the remedies. Nothing against Gamma chapter the were a good chapter. The national director is a member. LSU made national news for pouring gasoline and urine on pledges. Their not coming back. PhiAlpha3000 (talk) 22:04, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Nationals don't pla⁷ 72.227.115.125 (talk) 08:48, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Even in a situation like Theta Tau and Syracuse, Forever bans simply aren't. If Twenty five years from now, Delta Kappa Epsilon attempts to return, they'll be viewed equally to other groups that might come on campus.Naraht (talk) 12:28, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Naraht, did you finish your round of edits for the List of DKE chapters? I have a few cleanup items to attend to. Jax MN (talk) 15:46, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Jax MN I was looking for a few more chartering dates after move, but nothing large. I got rid of inuse.Naraht (talk) 15:56, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

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Beta Sigma Lambda Exclusive Law Fraternity

You have deleted our fraternity in the list of law fraternity in the Philippines, may ask why? Ar41985 (talk) 13:46, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Ar41985 Absolutely. At one point the list of fraternities and sororities in the Philippines was a massive article including many groups that had either just come into existance and thus had no notability or were groups whose existance couldn't even be validated. So it was changed to say that a group would already have to have a wikipedia page about them (which of course could be challenged under normal procedures if no notability has been shown). A good comparison is with Sigma Rho. The page about Sigma Rho has references to article in the Rappler, Sunstar, Philstar and ABS-CBN.

So the next step is to see if there is enough for an article on Beta Sigma Lambda. Philstar appears to only mention Beta Sigma Lambda in an interview about the 2010 Bar Blast, and the 2003 Bar Examination Scandal. Nothing in Rappler or sunstar. ABS-CBN has two mentions from the 2010 bar blast. I realize that there are other news sources in the Philippines, but this was where I started. Wikipedia is interested in what other say about the group, not what the group says about themselves, so facebook groups created by the fraternity and similar things don't indicate notability. I even looked at Balita, and while I see mentions of Delta Sigma Lambda, they seem to be members writing in (at least by the automatic translation on google.) The resources showing notability don't have to be in English, so if there are better ones in Tagalog or Cebuano or one of the other languages of the Philippines that's fine.

And in terms of how I got interested, I'm a brother of Alpha Phi Omega of the United States, so I'm quite familiar with Alpha Phi Omega of the Philippines. The Oblation Run does sort of help with mentions in the news media. :) On the other hand, so does Ferdinand Tabtab.

Let me know how I can help. I will be happy to put you in touch with a different member of the Wikipedia project for Fraternities and Sororities if you think that my membership in Alpha Phi Omega represents a Conflict of Interest.Naraht (talk) 23:18, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

https://twitter.com/abscbnnews/status/1021932068190576642

https://abogado.com.ph/in-honor-in-death-beta-sigma-lambda-mourns-the-death-of-justice-ricardo-puno/

is this enough for you? Ar41985 (talk) 23:41, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Ar41985 I'm not saying that I'm a gatekeeper here, and a more general appeal would be fine. However the twitter doesn't mention Beta Sigma Lambda, and the abogado mentions his membership. The second would be fine as a reference on a page about Beta Sigma Lambda showing that he was a brother, but doesn't necessarily show notability of Beta Sigma Lambda. As I said, I'd use Rho Sigma as a model. I'd suggest in the short term creating a page at Draft:Beta Sigma Lambda with the appropriate references, others will try to help, I'd suggest seeing what other references from places like newspapers are available. Naraht (talk) 14:12, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

So you will not stop deleting, I will not stop also publishing Ar41985 (talk) 18:39, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

we have all the rights to be on that list. Ar41985 (talk) 18:41, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Ar41985, I work on fraternity articles, and have followed this conversation. You are taking this far too personally. WP is simply not a place for Original Research, that is, your own 'essay' type writing, without supporting valid references. Our advice is that you should dig for these. Find several publicly-available books, magazines, newspapers, or scholarly papers that talks about Beta Sigma Lambda. Cite these. If the group has existed for ten or more years with three or more chapters, that is more or less the bar for 'notability', but it must also have such citable references. Without these, it amounts to hearsay as in a court of law, and is inadmissible as evidence: a principle you might recognize. Jax MN (talk) 20:35, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Bogged down

Naraht, I got bogged down editing Kappa Sigma Kappa and Alpha Lambda Tau and had to walk away from it to let me eyes clear. Alpha Lambda Tau looks good, but I'd appreciate your review of both articles. As you might recall, I'd spent some time last year on the Trine University page, deciphering the many chapter name changes. Using that information, I attempted to clarify the Trine chapter's evolution within the scope of Kappa Sigma Kappa. I think I have it right, showing that it was the KSK group that found safe harbor in Kappa Sigma in 1966. It eventually took the Theta-Xi chapter of ΚΣ, in what appears to be a coincidence when you realize that its previous national, KSK had many chapters join Theta Xi national. Ugh. A later group formed a Teke chapter, but this came about from an alumnus that reformed KSK on that campus. Would you trace this, and see if it is as clear as can be stated, under the circumstances?

I think I should add a column, noting the names of the chapters after they merged, and the nationals they joined. More than any other national, Kappa Sigma Kappa, as a non NIC group, was simply picked dry of its good chapters by a number of nationals. The Baird's Archive record is rough, and many of the chapters are either duplicates (I've tried to clean these up) and it is missing numerous dates. Baird's normally uses footnotes to show where the chapters went, maybe showing two or four footnotes. But in the case of KSK there are perhaps 16 footnotes showing these outcomes. Like I said, KSK was picked dry. Jax MN (talk) 03:17, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Jax MN working the Maryland election tomorrow, will try to take a look on Wednesday or Thursday.Naraht (talk) 03:33, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

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Request: Draft:Merkur Stahlwaren

Hello @Naraht, I have submitted an entry about the company Merkur. I saw that you are quite active in wikipedia and that you have already experience with reviewing drafts. So I wanted to ask you if you could maybe have a look at my article I handed in? I put a lot of effort into creating it and I would be really grateful. Here you can come to the draft: Draft:Merkur Stahlwaren.

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Zeta Psi test

Hello Naraht - I tested a format change on the Zeta Psi chapter list. An adjustment to how we show Inactive, Deceased chapters. Thoughts? Jax MN (talk) 18:50, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Seriously, what a mess we have in the Zeta Psi record. I commend you for working on it. When testing that grey highlight style I noted the situation with Harvard, where the earliest four-year period of activity ceased and Rho chapter there was termed as Deceased. Then, the group came back several times, still named Rho. The grey highlight works from what I recall reading about why the first group ceased. But looking at it again I saw (and recalled previously noting) the Middlebury chapter, also named Rho. Inactive, yes. Then supplanted by yet another run at it, by a Harvard group. I suppose it will all come down to whether or not the national fraternity applies the name Deceased on any of these more recent chapters, or not. Whatever they do, it appears to be a compromise solution to a bad naming problem they inherited. WTF were they thinking, in granting Middlebury that name? Hats off to you for wrestling with it. Jax MN (talk) 03:50, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Jax MN - Right now I'm just rearranging the order to the order in https://zetapsi.org/about/chapters/?fwp_paged=3 and then we'll see what's left that they *don't* include (like the Naval Academy). I'll take a look after the rest is rearranged.Naraht (talk) 14:03, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

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Can you move Draft:Council for Foreign and Defense Policy from draft to a normal article space?

Hello Mr. Randolph Finder I found your name here:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Participants

Congratulations on being one of the anointed. 😀

Can you move this draft article out of draft? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Council_for_Foreign_and_Defense_Policy

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Sigma Mu Delta

I am pretty sure it is a lost battle to fight the deletion challenge of Sigma Mu Delta. Although your comment would be welcome, as always. I felt that I had met the initial challenge by finding sources, but the two extensions of the challenge appear to be a hunt for "delete" votes. I know you are much more experienced in these matters. Is it possible to win this type of challenge where the sources are campus and university oriented? In other areas of Wikipedia, I find that the deletion discussions look at the subject itself, as well as the sources--but this is the second time I have come across this type of debate with fraternities. My concern is the shear number of fraternal articles in Wikipedia that either lack independent sources or are similarly sourced. Should our focus shift to fixing those articles, rather than worrying about lists and mergers? Or are we really working on content that does not belong in Wikipedia? Maybe I am having a existential crisis as I pride myself in my ability to find sources. Rublamb (talk) 18:38, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

JAX just found Simga Mu Delta in the almanac. We had both looked in coed, not all male. Don't know if that will make a difference, but at least it validates my gut that this group was notable. Rublamb (talk) 08:22, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1888 disestablishments in Maryland

A tag has been placed on Category:1888 disestablishments in Maryland indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Liz After further research and expansion of Maryland Military and Naval Academy, it was determined that the school closed in 1887, not 1888. As such I will not be challenging the deletion. Thank you for marking it.Naraht (talk) 13:25, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

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New Page Review queue April to June 2023

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Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

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Recent URL cleanup and params

Hi Naraht. Some of the recent citations you have cleaned up have removed the parameter:
|website=web.archive.org
and I wonder if that suppresses Wikipedia from occasionally searching for dead links and replacing them with Wayback archives. Certainly, if a source goes bad, a Wayback archive is preferable to a dead link. Do I misunderstand here? Jax MN (talk) 22:01, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

The other edits you have recently triggered using the Citationbot are clear to me, and helpful. Jax MN (talk) 22:03, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Jax MN I'm not honestly sure *when* web.archive.org is the proper website. Can you give me an example that isn't a Wayback link? If so, you can also bring it up on Citation bot's page.Naraht (talk) 00:08, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

I'll look for one to bring as an example. Sadly, there have been so many pages updated today that I will have to sift for awhile. Jax MN (talk) 00:10, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Jax MN I think Christian fraternities is an example, but it is correct as a wayback archive, the website=web.archive.org is incorrect.Naraht (talk) 00:26, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

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		For your magnificent work replacing subcategories of society lists! Rublamb (talk) 00:11, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

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Re: ADPi chapter list

I'd suggest you use the earlier date for Alpha chapter, as they simply renamed themselves prior to beginning their national expansion and their first daughter chapter. This matches a number of other precedents. Jax MN (talk) 22:02, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

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Bradford Gilbert‎

I was excited to see that I editor I trust has looked at the Bradford Gilbert article. I have been working on this article on and off for a long time--it is one of the first articles I decided to improve. (Working on architects is how I ended up editing fraternity articles). It it pretty much ready for a GA nomination, although I have another huge scandal to add to the persona life section. But I need a second set of eyes on my table of projects. Tables are not used by the WP Archicture although I have introduced this format to many articles without any negative feedback. As a result, I did not have template to follow. These days, I stick to listing surviving buildings but Gilbert had so many important projects that are no longer survivng that I experimented with a status column. Does this make sense? Is it helpful to indicate things like museum, etc. or should I stick to surviving or demolished? Thanks! Rublamb (talk) 20:47, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Rublamb Sorry, all I did was look for situations where Kansas had the wrong post office abbreviation. That was just one of the pages... I'll look when I have chance.Naraht (talk) 23:43, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Rublamb tweeked the table, found a few places where articles should add a link there. Consider making either Bradford L. Gilbert or Bradford Lee Gilbert redirects to the article.Naraht (talk) 02:19, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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	Thank you for removing all of the pesky mottos! Marquardtika (talk) 15:32, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Marquardtika That's what AWB is for and I've been helping OpalYosutebito.Naraht (talk) 16:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Blackguardly, I call it. Why were mottoes created? To inform people of some important intention or aspiration of a body. They are useful things to reference. Urselius (talk) 12:55, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Blackguardly They weren't being displayed by the infobox, as such, the article displays completely the same without them.Naraht (talk) 13:47, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Mottoes

Wikipedia is incredibly stupid, stupid decisions are made by groups of people who do not consider all aspects of what they are debating. Then useful information is lost. Wikipedia process is despicable and not fit for purpose. Urselius (talk) 12:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

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Ref-breaking

Obviously no objection to removing unsupported parameters, and with clear edit-summary about it! But [1] also removed a named-ref that was re-used elsewhere, leaving a visible error. Might want to double-check for "<ref name" in your AWB regexp. DMacks (talk) 04:43, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

{{U|DMacks}} fixed the article and I'll work on adding that.Naraht (talk) 04:50, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick fix (and the general AWB work!). DMacks (talk) 04:52, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Alpha Phi Omega

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APO category

Per our discussion on the list talk page I have created Category:Alpha Phi Omega members and will be adding the articles from the list to it. Categories aren't subject to the same notability requirements as stand alone lists so the category will persist no matter what happens to the list, hopefully this offers much of the same utility as a navigational and organizational aid. TBH I was surprised to find out that the cat didn't exist already. COI aside you've worked really hard on that list and I would hate to see the utility removed from the project. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 08:35, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Horse Eye's Back Not a determining Condition. Categories for membership in various GLOs have been created in the past and deleted as not a determining condition. I will be proposing that list for deletion.Naraht (talk) 08:37, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

If thats true you can just prod it, I have no objection. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 08:39, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Are you sure though? I see lots of similar cats, Category:Members of the Black Panther Party for example. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 08:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Not a GLO.Naraht (talk) 08:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

What is the difference between a GLO and a political party in terms of being a determining condition? Both are social groups. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 08:46, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

We have Category:Freemasons so we seems to allow fraternal orgs. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 08:49, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

• shock*. Republican Party (United States) = Friday night bowling League???? Wikipedia definitely has different rules for those two. I need to head to bed. The longer that I have this discussion, the less likely I think that List of Alpha Phi Omega members has any chance of deletion, especially as it is being remapped in the form of List of Alpha Phi Alpha members. And the guideline here is Wikipedia:COPDEF. And PROD isn't allowed on Categories.Naraht (talk) 08:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

List of Alpha Phi Alpha members also lacks anything which indicates notability... And its not a real FA, look at the history... Its a 2007 FA which would not survive a challenge, not going to challenge because people keep saying I'm battle grounding. Goodnight! Rest assured that I will not be nominating List of Alpha Phi Omega members for deletion anytime soon, take all the time you need to find sources. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 09:09, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Saint Francis University

My intention is BOTH Saint Francis University (Pennsylvania) and Saint Francis University (Hong Kong) will get disambiguation term, while Saint Francis University would redirect to University of Saint Francis (which itself is a disambiguation page). --Leeyc0 (Talk) 03:06, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Leeyc0 Please point a place where X University and University of X have a joint Disambiguation page. SFU Pennsylvania is primary over SFU Hong Kong (about 400 links to about 100 links and that's the more favorable way to look at it as Google searches on the two are *far* more imbalanced.Naraht (talk) 12:22, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

I would suggest to raise this issue to community and let the community decide. I don't think we can make this judgement privately. I am open to both options. --Leeyc0 (Talk) 13:13, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

I just raised your concern in Template_talk:College#Template-protected_edit_request_on_10_January_2024. This looks like to be the best place for this issue. --Leeyc0 (Talk) 13:20, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Leeyc0 This being my talk page or Template:College?Naraht (talk) 14:16, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

In the talk page of Template:College --Leeyc0 (Talk) 15:05, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

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Skielark Please take a look at the documentation on Template:Infobox University, It sounds like what you want is academic_staff=84 and administrative_staff = 140. Does that help?Naraht (talk) 20:27, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes, it does! Thank you for your help! Skielark (talk) 21:34, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

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Tom.Reding Good enough?Naraht (talk) 15:55, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

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Alpha Phi Omega (Philippines)

I think List of Alpha Phi Omega (Philippines) chapters and alumni associations should be split into two articles, based on its length. Maybe also move the citations to their own column. Thoughts? Rublamb (talk) 15:34, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Rublamb Sounds good. I need to go diving through facebook to find the dates for the last 5 years or so. Official facebook feed of APO Phil should be OK as a ref.Naraht (talk) 15:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

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Infobox change, recent updates

Nice catch, adding Category:Pages using infobox fraternity with missing website. Always a vexing issue.

Might I ask that you confirm whether Sigma Xi now should have a category, like the other Honor Society Caucus fraternities? Since I created the chapter list, I think it is probably appropriate, but defer to you as our resident category expert. Please create it, if fitting. Jax MN (talk) 18:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Jax MNRight now, there are only two pages. I'm hesitant since this is a category that has been deleted before. When we get three, no question.Naraht (talk) 18:49, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

At some point, one of us may add a Notables article. We can revisit it then. No problem. Jax MN (talk) 19:09, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Jax MNQuite likely!Naraht (talk) 19:14, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

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Hi Naraht. Obviously that is the English translation of the German city name now shown as Corps Palatia München in the infobox. As this is the English Wikipedia, I offered this parenthetical clarification for those unfamiliar with the German language. You don't think it useful? Jax MN (talk) 17:55, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

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Why are you reverting my edits to this page? The revisions are needed to reflect what's happening with the National organization. I'm on the Grand Council. Thank you. Katie Evans 2600:4041:6683:1C00:D519:CEC:2999:E6D7 (talk) 20:44, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

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Interesting discussion, one that gets to the heart of our use of crests, badges and the like. I recently was alerted of a potential copyright or licensing violation which appeared to me to be incorrect, so I brought the issue up for dispute. See Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions#Member_badge. Once this is resolved we should capture the discussion in our Project archive.
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About the proxying issue re JH

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Hi, Naraht. responding to this comment of yours at JH's TP: Imho, it is not so much a question of whether it involves reverting your own edit or not (although that would likely be viewed as a smaller infraction than reverting someone else's, *if* proxying were involved), but rather at whose behest you are doing the revert. If you decided to revert yourself for reasons entirely your own, then it is not proxying; and if you are influenced to do so by a discussion from a blocked user, then it might be proxying. Even in the latter case, if you take full ownership of it and independently believe it is the right course of action, then you could make the revert, but that is a gray area. That is my interpretation of WP:PROXYING, but others might see it differently. I think a self-revert of the type you dsecribed is probably okay; but if you have any doubts about it, you could simply ask a trusted admin about it on their Talk page, or here on your Talk page either by pinging an individual admin, or using template {{Admin help}}. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 22:15, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Mathglot Thank you. I think the edit in question is the one on The Daily Campus and that isn't mine, it is by Liz and I personally think that as an actual street address, it should either be Storrs-Mansfield, or Storrs as I don't think Storrs, Mansfield, Connecticut is one of the choices by the US Postal Service (and specifically as a *street address*, I *think* USPS trumps WP:COMMONNAME, but I'd like to be sure, get other opinions). And in regards to the ANI comment, I not only have half of the pages I changed on my watchlists, I'm running a search on insource:/Storrs-Mansfield/ whenever I get on Wikipedia. Oddly, I may have been the first one to object to the changes because they kept coming up in all of the Fraternity and Sorority chapter lists where UConn has a chapter. (I'm on WP:FRAT) and because I didn't indicate it elsewhere, Thank you to Liz as well.Naraht (talk) 22:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

I got pinged to Talk:Storrs, Connecticut § Storrs-Mansfield Discussion by the Rfc bot, and probably won't get into the content dispute regarding the name more than I already have as I don't really care that much, so will probably leave it to others. (I might get involved if proper interpretation of ngrams or other search result data becomes an issue, because casual users of search tools so often get it wrong.) The Talk page is the right place to resolve that, and obviously there have been recent attempts to do so, which have had to deal with the bludgeoning and other issues that left JH temp blocked.

There is certainly no rush as far as resolving this question, and imho it would be a good idea to put off any further attempts to change things at that article for a little while, if only because of the likelihood of a repeat of past strife and wasting our most precious resource (editor time). Once the dust has settled one way or another, a discussion (or possibly an Rfc) down the road might resolve the question among editors dealing with the question collegially and disinterestedly, but I don't think we are there yet on this issue. I think the most efficient path (least use of multiple editors' time) would be to wait a few months, and then try. Just my two cents. Mathglot (talk) 23:09, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Mathglot probably. I don't know if there is any formal way to say "let's put a discussion on ice for a few months", but I can support.Naraht (talk) 00:04, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

There is an informal way to do so, which is just to propose and get consensus for a moratorium. Sometimes in perennial Rfc questions which keep coming up over and over, someone puts forward a proposal (either while the Rfc is going on or right after) that there should be no further Rfc's on the same topic for <time interval>, which I've seen be up to 18 months for particuarly egregious cases. With such a consensus, premature attempts to raise it again can be hatted, with |result=Moratorium in effect; see <link>.

But here, a much easier response is just silence. After someone proposes a change that is reverted and discussed, if they are unable to gain consensus on the Talk page after a reasonable amount of discussion, there is no requirement for the majority in opposition to respond to every one of their questions or ripostes. You can simply let them have the last word, and keep on talking and talking as much as they want, with no response at all. Their having the last word does not equal consensus, and after hearing nothing back for a while, they usually give up. If they don't, and barge ahead unilaterally, reinserting the oppositional material again, one of the majority simply reverts, with edit summary: "No consensus; see Talk", or "Contrary to previous consensus; see Talk", and if they do it again, a different majority editor should revert and then take them to the Edit warring noticeboard. That should be the end of it.

I would just choose silence at this point, although I fear, as you do, that it will spring up again. If it does, I would respond with one brief sentence in the discussion just like those suggested edit summaries, and then never respond again (unless some completely new argument is supplied which seems unlikely, and even then, they would need consensus). It's fine if they get the last word and then it just fizzles out; that saves you from having to respond. Mathglot (talk) 00:46, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

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