LilAhok

Please avoid misleading edit summaries

The rationale given for your blanket deletion of well-sourced content here is misrepresenting both the authorship of that content and the state of discussion on the article's talk page. Please see also WP:NPOV. Regards, HaeB (talk) 14:10, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

@LilAHok, It turns out you didn't quite undo Fobtown's edit. Looking at history logs, it was HaeB himself who originally wrote that final edit in, and so you had undid his edit.[1] And that is why he knows that Fobtown didn't write it originally because he done that Edit. Prior to him, the original words used to be Claims of Sri Lanka being part of a Chinese debt trap have been made as China was the major source of loans for many megaprojects whose viability have been questioned[46][47] but the existence of a debt-trap have been disputed. [48][49]. Which is far more neutral. Later on, Haeb added the extra words, causing many to argue that "Sri Lanka's economic relations with China are the main driver behind the crisis".[41][42] as if it was the scholarly consensus. Except what is many and what are their credentials? It's silly when actual professional scholars strongly refuted such accusations that China is the main driver of the crisis.[2] Just like Fobtown, Haeb appears to also edit to contradict the academics' assertions that China is not the largest reason behind the crisis. [3] Simpleshooter99 (talk) 03:08, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

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Hello there, this is Yaujj13. I don't know you remember but we had a brief encounter over NmW... user name discussion over his edit.

I heard that you are editing on Japanese war crimes so I was wondering on your opinion on my edits, whether you agree or disagree with my edits

Here let me provide the edits (my edits were reverted by the user in question):

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moro_people&diff=1187106286&oldid=1186717380

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Japanese_migration_to_Indonesia&diff=prev&oldid=1187104411

I also have to inform you about NmW user, I believe he is a pro Japan vandal who remove edits that humiliate Japan. Here is one of his edit example before reverted by another user: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anti-Catholicism&diff=prev&oldid=1171656739

He remove Japan defeats along the fact they prosecute their own people (killing their own troops with biological weapons and prostituting their own women) because he believe it humiliates Japan, not because he doesn't think that Japan is victimless. More what he think humiliation include Moro defeat and cannibalize the Japanese.

All my edits is merely transcribing the source material as per the links. My liver edit shows that many different people committed liver cannibalism.

Yaujj13 (talk) 17:48, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

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I'd like to know better context on the edit you made against my own on Japans war crimes

I intended to ad a second citation on the bare minimum of how many people were killed by the Japanese empire during and before world war 2. You seem to want to include only one estimate however I respectfully insist that at least a varied estimate ranging from 10 million to 30 million be included. Obviously RJ Rummels estimate is way too low, but for the sake of Wikipedia standards. The link I included before yours seems to be said to be broken down however there is speculation I have that includes not only those killed via state policy via massacres, state sanctioned famine, diseases spread from field testing of bio weapons, vs non preventable famine and non intentional diseases(not from bio weapons units). Considering that Japan launched these invasions I can empathize somewhat on your decision to take into account the number dead from non state causes, but there is a discussion and debate over that. The citation I added that you removed was from a forum interview on Sterling Seagrave on his book Gold Warriors(second citation below). In the interview he puts Japans causality count at 10-14 million. I want to state that measuring Japans body

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Japanese_war_crimes#Fatalities

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9196

While one could make the argument that no direct citations are used, Seagrave is a well respected historian and he isn't the only historian with an estimate on Japans body count. The one and only estimate included is by Bryan Mark Rigg whom aside from being somewhat controversial I somehow are uncertain on what his book, Japan's Holocaust: History of Imperial Japan's Mass Murder and Rape During World War II actually says contextwise. Can you upload a few pictures of what his book says on the tally, both here and on the discussion page on Japan war crimes. It's worth mentioning that in China's case 15 to 22 million died from all causes with the later estimate common among Chinese historican with even Mark Felton mentioning this in his book, however it includes not just those killed in state policy, but also the total dead from famine whether preventable or otherwise, and combat deaths with 5 to 10 million being from famine and disease. The casualties on Japans body count from state policy generally run from 10-20 million which is provided by M.D.R Foot with the later of the estimate being that of Werner Gruhl, Herbert Flix, and John Dower. I also watched a live stream from Richard B. Frank whom, in the interview cited his book, Tower of Skulls that Japans body count is from 18 or 19 million to 25 million(citation 5 below). May we discuss this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Mark_Rigg#Criticism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Japanese_war_crimes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Total_deaths_by_country

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes#cite_note-80

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrTS3lsjLWA

--undeadmerc3 — Preceding undated comment added 19:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

i think it would be more productive if you posted your arguments on the article's talk page. the info was removed because it did not comply with wikipedia's guidelines. WP:RSSELF - generally, self-published information is considered unreliable, but "Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the subject matter, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications." you can take your case to the article's talk page where a consensus could be built around the credbility of your source. LilAhok (talk) 21:03, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

It's been nearly two days since I posted on the talk page. I'm not getting any replies. Can we please discuss this. Do you have the details on Bryan Mark Rigg's book. I would like to include multiple estimates by all means. Undeadmerc3 (talk) 11:11, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm really considering contacting once of the Wikipedia admins about this. I'm not getting any reply on the talk page. In addition to that Bryan Rigg's book which you cite hasn't had a very good reception on Goodreads. 77 reviews with a 2.18 score. This isn't being objective by showing only one estimate. While a few negative reviews are questioning the atrocities many are critiquing many citations and sources that are used. Please give an update.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/194574831-japan-s-holocaust Undeadmerc3 (talk) 16:51, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

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