Talk:Toledo War
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Casualties and losses
editIs it zero casualties or 22,000? I can find no other source that says 22,000 people were injured. Other than a Michigan sheriff who was stabbed in a tavern scuffle. [1] SiXiam (talk) 01:41, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- The current revision of the article is correct at 1 wounded and no deaths. Any other number is vandalism. Imzadi 1979 → 02:13, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
FA concerns
editIn order to meet WP:FACR #1c, this older FA should really incorporated Faber's 2008 work on the Toledo War, especially given the degree that this article relies on 19th-century sources. Mary Karl George's 1971 The Rise and Fall of Toledo, Michigan... The Toledo War! should probably be consulted as well. Way is a major source on this topic, but more modern materials should be used when possible. The reliability of captain-johns.com is questionable. An article titled "A Long-Overdue Evaluation of Benjamin Hough's Observation for Latitude of the North Cape of Maumee Bay, Ohio's Northern Border." has been published in Michigan Historical Review; while it isn't directly relevant on much of the article content, it would be useful for fleshing out some of the background surveying that led to the dispute. "Collecting the Toledo War" from the same journal is mainly a bibliography and is not all that useful, but does contain about four or so pages of good secondary material. There's also a need to spot-check some of the sourcing; for instance I'm not finding the April 3 date from "On April 3, 1835, Jackson sent two representatives from Washington, D.C., " in the cited source although most of my spot checks had no issues. Hog Farm Talk 22:38, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- No response, listing at WP:FARGIVEN. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:42, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Name, Result, and Bloodshed in 1835 section
editThe name, "Toledo War," seems to be a bit misleading. No casualties occurred, and one person was non-fatally wounded. "Toledo Conflict" seems to be more of an appropriate name due to the nature of the conflict.
"Result" in the table on the right side should probably say something along the lines of, "Ohio gained the Toledo strip permanently" instead of "inconclusive." The conflict ended with the result of Ohio taking Toledo as its own territory, and I think adding this would help prevent misconstrued information.
Lastly, the "Bloodshed in 1835" section seems to be a bit too beefy. Summarizing the most important and relevant information about the conflict would be less confusing. All of this is just coming from the perspective of a new audience member for this article. Flamingosmoothie (talk) Flamingosmoothie (talk) 21:59, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Flamingosmoothie: regarding the name, since it is the most common name in sources, and since we follow those sources, that's the name we use. It is not up to us to invent new names when they've already been named. Imzadi 1979 → 23:59, 26 February 2023 (UTC)