Wikidata:Property proposal/EDIT16 title & place IDs
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EDIT16 title & place IDs
[edit]EDIT16 catalogue title ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control
| Description | identifier of the EDIT16 catalogue about titles of 16th-century books |
|---|---|
| Represents | Censimento nazionale delle edizioni italiane del XVI secolo (Q1053428) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | book edition (Q57933693) |
| Allowed values | [1-9]\d* |
| Example 1 | Q124357913 → 2547 |
| Example 2 | Q124357958 → 2604 |
| Example 3 | Q124357995 → 41389 |
| Example 4 | Q124358048 → 6268 |
| Example 5 | Q124358049 → 6267 |
| Source | |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
| Number of IDs in source | 68050 (source) |
| Formatter URL | https://edit16.iccu.sbn.it/resultset-titoli/-/titoli/detail/$1 |
| See also | EDIT16 catalogue author ID (P5492), EDIT16 catalogue printer ID (P5493), SBN books ID (P5485) |
| Single-value constraint | yes |
| Distinct-values constraint | yes |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Italy (Q6876022), WikiProject Libraries (Q2581592) |
EDIT16 catalogue place ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control
Motivation
[edit]Censimento nazionale delle edizioni italiane del XVI secolo (Q1053428) is an excellent catalogue of books printed in 16th century. We already have properties EDIT16 catalogue author ID (P5492) and EDIT16 catalogue printer ID (P5493). --Horcrux (talk) 09:55, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]
Notified participants of WikiProject Italy --Horcrux (talk) 09:56, 26 January 2024 (UTC)- Notified participants of WikiProject Libraries --Horcrux (talk) 09:57, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Support --FeltriaUrbsPicta (msg) 11:06, 26 January 2024 (UTC)- Support --Epìdosis 11:08, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support --Wiccio (talk) 12:06, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support--Parma1983 (talk) 13:40, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support --Marcok (talk) 15:02, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support --Giacomo Alessandroni What's up! 15:15, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support --Sentruper (talk) 22:48, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support --divudì 10:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support --Awinkler3 (talk) 19:49, 29 January 2024 (UTC) : I'm wondering, however, if the formatter URL should be changed into https://edit16.iccu.sbn.it/luogo/CNCL$1 or https://edit16.iccu.sbn.it/titolo/CNCE$1 . This is the format suggested by EDIT16, isn't it?
- @Awinkler3: Where is it "suggested"? Anyway for example https://edit16.iccu.sbn.it/luogo/CNCL18 redirects to https://edit16.iccu.sbn.it/resultset-luoghi/-/luoghi/detail/CNCL18. --Horcrux (talk) 19:55, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- If you click on the link symbol in the right upper corner you are shown a link which I interpret as a suggestion. The linked/suggested URL has the format I provided. Awinkler3 (talk) 19:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Awinkler3: To me that seems just a kind of URL shortening. If you look at the source code of https://edit16.iccu.sbn.it/luogo/CNCL18 you can see that the indicated canonical URL is
https://edit16.iccu.sbn.it/resultset-luoghi/-/luoghi/detail/CNCL18. --Horcrux (talk) 20:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)- I see your point in hinting at the "canonical" tag; I'm not sure, however, how reliable this actually is. Two of the three "alternate" links are identical. It would be great to hear from someone familiar with the EDIT16 infrastructure what they intend as persistent URI for their resources. Your suggested URL format is closely linked to the technical infrastructure that is bound to change in the future. The other URI/URL is more abstract and therefore maybe more likely not to change over time (it's of course an organizational decision). The shorter URI points to your URL via two redirects, by the way: https://edit16.iccu.sbn.it/luogo/CNCL18 -> https://edit16.iccu.sbn.it/c/luoghi/view?groupId=35230&id=CNCL18 -> https://edit16.iccu.sbn.it/resultset-luoghi/-/luoghi/detail/CNCL18
- But my question is definitely no major obstacle. The ID is contained in both and the formatter URL can be adapted in the future according to the changes the platform decides to implement. Awinkler3 (talk) 20:30, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Awinkler3: To me that seems just a kind of URL shortening. If you look at the source code of https://edit16.iccu.sbn.it/luogo/CNCL18 you can see that the indicated canonical URL is
- If you click on the link symbol in the right upper corner you are shown a link which I interpret as a suggestion. The linked/suggested URL has the format I provided. Awinkler3 (talk) 19:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Awinkler3: Where is it "suggested"? Anyway for example https://edit16.iccu.sbn.it/luogo/CNCL18 redirects to https://edit16.iccu.sbn.it/resultset-luoghi/-/luoghi/detail/CNCL18. --Horcrux (talk) 19:55, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Horcrux, FeltriaUrbsPicta, Epìdosis, Wiccio, Parma1983, Marcok: @Galessandroni, Sentruper, Divudi85, Awinkler3:
Done as EDIT16 catalogue title ID (P12465) and EDIT16 catalogue place ID (P12466). Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 07:28, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
