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Isabel L. Beck
Margaret G. McKeown
1 The Reading Teacher Vol. 55, No. 1 September 2001 ©2001 International Reading Association (pp. 10–20)
to book language, but in talking about the ideas. on major story ideas is not as simple as it may
Cochran-Smith (1984), Heath (1983), and Snow first appear. This is because young children tend
and her colleagues (Snow, 1993; Snow & to respond to stories by using what is easily ac-
Dickinson, 1991; Snow et al., 1995) all highlight cessible to them in contrast to the linguistic con-
the role of the talk that surrounds book reading tent (Neuman, 1990). Specifically, we observed
in becoming literate. According to Snow, quality how children frequently ignored text informa-
talk around books can promote familiarity with tion and responded to questions on the basis of
the pictures and their background knowledge.
relatively rare vocabulary, understanding the lexical and gram-
matical strategies for adjusting to a nonpresent audience,
The problem is that this reduces the opportuni-
identifying the perspective of the listener so as to provide suf- ties for children to construct meaning from de-
ficient background information, and knowing the genre- contextualized language which, as we have
specific rules for various forms of talk such as narrative and noted earlier, is essential for building mature lit-
explanation. (1993, p. 15) eracy skills.
Evidence for the role of talking about books What we learned from observations
in enhancing children’s language development Prevalence of responding on the basis of pic-
comes from studies by Dickinson and Tabors tures. Vivid, delightful pictures are a hallmark of
(1991), Freppon (1991), Morrow (1992), and children’s trade books, and children are naturally
Snow et al. (1995) who concluded, for example, drawn to them. However, if children rely on pic-
that “talk surrounding the text” (Morrow, p. 253) tures to construct their understanding of a story,
or “getting children to think about what was go- they may focus on characteristics of the pictures
ing on in the story” (Freppon, p. 144) were keys that interfere with constructing meaning of the
to literacy growth. story. As an example, consider our observation of
More specifically, Teale and Martinez a teacher reading a book called Socrates
(1996) concluded that the most effective talk in- (Bogaerts & Bogaerts, 1992) to a class of kinder-
volved encouraging children to focus on impor- gartners. The book’s cover shows a sweet-faced
tant story ideas and giving them opportunities dog wearing a pair of large red glasses. The
to reflect rather than expecting a quickly re- teacher indicated that the little dog was Socrates
trieved answer. Relatedly, Dickinson and Smith and that they would learn about him in the story,
(1994) found that talk that was “analytic in na- and began reading.
ture,” requiring children to reflect on story con- The story opens with a heart-wrenching de-
tent or language, was most beneficial. scription of Socrates’s parents being taken away
Dickinson and Smith’s (1994) and Teale and by the dog catcher and Socrates being left an or-
Martinez’s (1996) ideas about the most effec- phan with no friends and no one to care for him.
tive read-aloud strategies are quite consistent. After this opening, the teacher stopped and
The most effective features include focusing the asked, “What do we know about Socrates so
discussion on major story ideas, dealing with far?” The first response was, “He needs glasses.”
ideas as they are encountered in contrast to after Clearly the child ignored the linguistic content
the entire story has been read, and involving about Socrates’s situation and answered on the
children in the discussion with opportunities to basis of the picture. Thus this child constructed a
be reflective. However, it is clear from these in- completely different problem as the central focus
vestigations that the most effective read-aloud of the story.
strategies are far from the most common ones. In this case, the picture was not congruent
Our observations are consistent with those with the text content at that point. But even when
of Dickinson and Smith (1994) and Teale and pictures and text are congruent, it was our ob-
Martinez (1996). At the start of the project we servation that children often rely on the pictures
describe here, we observed kindergarten and for constructing meaning and thus miss oppor-
first-grade teachers reading to their classrooms tunities to engage in constructing meaning from
and found that they tended not to involve chil- the linguistic content.
dren in focusing on and discussing major story Children’s reliance on pictures is easy to ex-
ideas. Among the reasons this is the case is that plain, as pictures closely represent what children
in reading to young children, creating a focus are accustomed to encountering in the world
Questions Responses
As they started scrubbing, what came off ? Dirt
What does George want to do with his friend? Find him
How have things turned out for George, good or bad? Good
How is George doing at his job right now? Fine
George looks like he’s in a lot of what? Trouble
The mole found a new ____ Home
The mitten will be colored like snow, so it would be
hard to what? Find
Who needs the dress? The duchess
Text Talk overview most effective. That is, Questioning the Author
Our review of the research literature and our focuses on text ideas and encourages students’
observations in classrooms motivated the devel- participation in building meaning from those
opment of Text Talk, which is an approach to ideas as they read the text. Among the major dif-
read-alouds that is designed to enhance young ferences between Text Talk and Questioning the
children’s ability to construct meaning from de- Author is that the latter is directed to intermediate-
contexualized language. This goal includes not grade students who are reading their own texts in
only promoting comprehension, but also further- contrast to the focus of the current project, which
ing children’s language development. is reading aloud to kindergarten and first-grade
The project began with the selection of sto- children.
ries for kindergarten and first grade, the devel- The treatment of pictures and background
opment of questions for each story, and tryouts knowledge in Text Talk was influenced by our
of these materials. In the second phase we im- observations, discussed earlier. In Text Talk the
plemented Text Talk in kindergarten and first- pictures are for the most part shown after chil-
grade classrooms and worked closely with the dren have constructed meaning from what has
teachers to modify and augment the interactions been read. When background knowledge is elicit-
among the teacher, students, and text as issues ed, the teacher scaffolds children’s responses to
arose. The school was located in an urban pub- make clear the relationship of background knowl-
lic school district in a high-poverty area. edge to text ideas.
Seventy-five percent of the students received Beyond building comprehension of the spe-
free or reduced-cost lunch. All the students were cific story, Text Talk attends to children’s lan-
African American. guage development in two ways. One is that the
Text Talk interactions are based on open kind of questions asked elicit greater language
questions that the teacher poses during reading production. The other is that Text Talk takes ad-
that ask children to consider the ideas in the story vantage of some of the sophisticated vocabulary
and talk about and connect them as the story found in young children’s trade books by explic-
moves along. Our development of Text Talk was itly teaching and encouraging use of several
informed by our Questioning the Author work words from a story after the story has been read.
(Beck, McKeown, Hamilton, & Kucan, 1997). Table 2 provides an overview of components in-
Questioning the Author is an approach to text- volved in read-aloud experiences and a descrip-
based instruction that was developed around the tion of how those components are handled in
principle of “teaching for understanding.” Text Talk.
Features of Questioning the Author align very
closely with the features that Dickinson and Texts
Smith (1994) and Teale and Martinez (1996) Our criteria for selecting texts were that they
identified as making read-aloud interactions be intellectually challenging and provide the
grist for children to explore ideas and to use lan- Initial questions
guage to explain ideas. In particular, in choos- As noted above, we developed questions
ing stories we looked for some complexity of that teachers could use to initiate discussion at
events, subtleties in expressing ideas, or presen- important points in a story. In contrast to the
tation of unfamiliar ideas and topics. questions shown in Table 1, which constrain re-
Given our goal of promoting the construction sponses, questions developed for Text Talk
of meaning from linguistic content, we sought prompt students to talk about ideas. Table 3
books in which the linguistic content was shows examples of Text Talk questions and the
primary—that is, the book did not rely too heav- language they elicited from children collected
ily on the pictures for communicating the story. from pilot work in kindergarten and first-grade
A final criterion in consideration of construct- classes. As with Table 1, the examples are drawn
ing meaning was stories that exhibited an event from read-alouds of Harry the Dirty Dog (Zion,
structure rather than a series of situations, a for- 1984), The Mitten (Brett, 1989), and Brave Irene
mat that is sometimes used in books for young (Steig, 1986), albeit from different classrooms.
children. Examples of this format include
Seymour Simon’s Animal Fact/Animal Fable Follow-up questions
(1979), which presents one-page essays about It is important to emphasize that the kind of
different animals in response to a question (e.g., elaborated responses shown in Table 3 do not
arise automatically from asking open-ended
Do porcupines shoot their quills when they’re
questions. Indeed, in our Text Talk work, we
angry? Do goats eat tin cans?) and Family
found that children initially have difficulty con-
Pictures: Cuadros de Familia (Garza, 1990), structing these kinds of responses in contrast to
which presents a series of pictures with extended the customary responses of a word or two.
captions explaining “what’s going on” (e.g., Helping students to construct meaning requires
celebrating a feast day, harvesting oranges). teachers to take cues from a student’s initial re-
Although these are very attractive and interest- sponse, which for young children is often very
ing books for children to explore, they do not limited, and proceed from there. This territory
provide the extended, connected content for between a first, likely sparse response, and an
building meaning that is the focus of Text Talk. elaborated constructed response is the territory
Table 3
Examples of children’s responses to open questions
Questions Responses
How does what Harry did fit in with what we already He doesn’t really want to get clean, he just wants to
know about him? stay dirty.
When the family looked out and said, “There’s a Because when he got all dirty, his family didn’t know
strange dog in the backyard,” why did they call who he was.
Harry a strange dog?
What’s Harry up to now? He decided to dig a hole and get the brush so he
could wash, and then they would recognize him.
They called Harry “this little doggie.” What does that That means that they don’t know that it’s their dog-
tell us? gie. They don’t know its name, so they just call him
little doggie.
Why do you think the children shouted, “Come quick”? Because the kids knowed that that’s the dog they had.
It says that “the mitten swelled and bulged, but Baba’s That it was strong, and she’s a good knitter.
good knitting held fast.” What does that mean?
What do you think Baba meant when she said, “If The gloves are the same color as the snow. That if
you drop one in the snow you’ll never find it”? you drop it in the snow it’s colored like snow.
It says, “Mrs. Bobbin…was tired and had a bad She’s sick, but she is still going to try and finish her
headache, but she still managed to sew the last stitch- dress.
es in the gown she was making.” What’s going on?
Story Vocabulary
cepts that can guide the development of more ef- read-aloud discussion. Key to the task is keeping
fective read-aloud experiences. They include the important text ideas in focus while monitoring
following: children’s often limited responses and scaffold-
• awareness of the distinction between con- ing their ideas toward constructing meaning.
structing meaning of ideas in a text and
simply retrieving information from the text;
Beck teaches education courses and is a senior scientist at
• understanding the difficulty of the task
young children face in gaining meaning the University of Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania (647 LRDC,
from decontextualized language; 3939 O’Hara Street, Pittsburgh, PA 15260). McKeown is a
research scientist at the same university.
• designing questions that encourage chil-
dren to talk about and connect ideas and
developing follow-up questions that scaf-
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