Dynamic Time Analysis
Dynamic Time Analysis
By Robert Miner
Dynamic Traders Group, Inc.
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Dynamic Time Analysis
By Robert Miner, Dynamic Traders Group, Inc.
Lesson One
Time Cycle Ratios, Time Retracements and Alternate Time
Projections
This tutorial will be a review for many subscribers of the basic dynamic
time projection techniques used in the Dynamic Trader Futures Report,
and especially for those who have taken the time to study my Dynamic
Trading book. However, it is important to regularly review the basics to
ensure subscribers easily follow along with the method and terminology
we use in the DT Reports. Plus, as this series progresses, there will be
instruction how some additional practical application of dynamic time
analysis that is not included in the book. What ever your background, it will
be well worth your while to review each tutorial.
Time analysis is done in exactly the same manner as the more familiar
price analysis except we use units of time rather than units of price.
Dynamic time analysis measures and proportions the range in time
units of past cycles and projects forward to project the high probability
support and resistance time zones. Many of the same dynamic ratios used
for price analysis are used for time analysis.
The Fib ratio series of .382, .50, .618, 1.00, 1.618 and 2.618 are the
most typical ratios used although .50 and 1.00 are not technically a part of
the Fib ratio series.
Pivots on the price chart identify the reference points used in the
analysis. All time projections are made in advance. New projections may
be made as soon as a new swing is confirmed.
The three key time projection techniques that make the time target
zones are:
1) Time Cycle Ratios (TCR)
2) Time Retracements (Ret)
3) Alternate Time Projections (ATP)
The daily bond continuous chart above shows both time retracements
from a high to a low and a time-cycle-ratio projection of two consecutive
highs.
The time retracement is made by measuring the time from the March
22 high to the May 15 low, multiplying the number of time units by the
appropriate ratio and projecting forward the resulting number of time units
from the second pivot which is the May 15 low.
The 38.2% time retracement of the March high to May low is June 5.
The time range from the March 22 high to May 15 low is 37 trading days
(TD). 38.2% x 37 TDs is 14 TDs. Fourteen TDs forward from the May 15
low is June 5.
The high-to-high time cycle ratio projection is made in the same
manner. The time range between the two highs are multiplied by the
appropriate ratio and the result is projected forward from the second high.
The 100% TCR of the April 6 high to May 4 high is June 1. The time
range from April 6 to May 4 is 19 TDs. Nineteen TDs forward from May 4
is June 1.
Time Cycle Ratios including time retracements may be made on data
of any time frame. The next chart below shows time retracements for the
recent minor decline of the June S&P on the 60-minute data.
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The daily Sept. bond chart above shows the 100% alternate time
projection of the April 20 low to May 4 high projected from the May 15 low.
The 100% ATP falls on May 30. On May 30, the rally from the May 15 low
was equal in time to the longest corrective rally since the March 22 high.
The 100% ATP is a key time target. A market that exceeds the 100%
ATP has “overbalanced” the previous swing which is a signal the larger
degree trend has changed. In this case, it is a warning that the rally from
the May 15 low is a larger degree correction than any correction since
March 22 high. There will be a tutorial on time and price “overbalance” in
the future.
Alternate Time Projections may be made on any time frame data. The
next chart shows alternate time projections on the June S&P 15-minute
data.
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The second high on the chart on June 4 was made just two bars before
the 100% Alternate Time Projection of the prior advance. The first
advance on the chart lasted 26 bars. The second advance made a high at
24 bars, two bars before the 100% ATP.
The 100% ATP of the second advance is projected from the June 4
low is on the 10:00 AM (EST) bar on June 5. The 162% ATP is on the
13:45 bar on June 5.
Lessons Learned
The three dynamic time projection techniques are Time Cycle Ratios
(TCR), Time Retracements (Ret) and Alternate Time Projections (ATP).
The time projections are calculated in advance and prepare us for the high
probability time targets when a market may find support, resistance or the
termination of a trend. Subscribers should be familiar with each of these
dynamic time projection techniques and their abbreviations.
New projections are made as a new swing is confirmed. The high
probability target zones are where two or more of the projections coincide
relatively close together.
Each projection on a chart in the DT Futures Report is labeled with the
ratio and type of projection (TCR or ATP) depending on whether the
projection was made with two or three pivots. There are no unique labels
for Time Cycle Ratio projections using two pivots such as time
retracements, high-high etc. as any two pivots may be used.
Lesson Two
Time Target Zones for Support, Resistance and Trend
Change
By Robert Miner, Dynamic Traders Group, Inc.
In part one of this Dynamic Time Analysis tutorial series, we learned the
basic dynamic time analysis methods including Time Retracements,
Alternate Time Projections and Time Cycle Ratios. If you are not familiar
with these terms and the method they represent, please review part one.
This tutorial will assume you are very familiar with each of these three time
projection techniques.
This week’s lesson will show how we often can project in advance a
relatively narrow range of time for support, resistance or trend reversal.
May 30 includes one projection from each of the three sets of projections.
100% Low-Low TCR projection of the two recent minor lows.
100% ATP where W.C = 100% W.A
100% ATP of the May 2-11 decline from the May 18 high.
May 29 and May 31 is the 38% and 50% Time Retracements of the April
25 low to May 18 high. This time retracement zone brackets the three May
30 time projections.
The high probability time target for the next low is from the early
afternoon of May 29 through the late morning of May 31 with a focus on
May 30 where three of the four key projections are made.
The time/price box shown in the next chart bounds the early afternoon
May 29 through late morning May 31 Time Target Zone with the 50%-62%
price retracement zone for a time/price zone with a high probability of
making a low. The low was made precisely in this time/price zone that was
projected in advance.
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This first example shows how we make the key time projections in
advance to see if there is a relatively narrow time range that includes at a
projection from each of at least two or three of the sets of projections.
Now that you know how it is done on an after-the-fact example, let’s
take another look at beans right up through today, June 11, the date this
tutorial is prepared and make dynamic time projections for the next
potential high.
The next chart is daily data of July beans from the Dec. 19, 2000 high
through Friday, June 8. Four sets of Dynamic Time Projections have been
made.
From the top down, the Dynamic Time Projection sets are:
1. 38%, 50% and 62% Time Retracements of the Dec. 19 high to April
25 low.
2. 62%, 100% and 162% Time Retracements of the March 7 high to
April 25 low.
3. 162% and 262% Time Retracement of May 18 high to May 30 low.
4. 62%, 100% and 162% Alternate Time Projections of April 25 low to
May 18 high from the May 30 low.
There are two time periods that include one projection from either three
or four of the four sets of projections. They are June 12-14 and June 22-
26. One of these two periods should result in a high of the same degree or
larger as the May 18 high which was followed by a 12 CD decline. If beans
are advancing into either of these Time Target Zones, we would be alert to
the pattern and price position for a potential trend change.
The next chart is the 60-Minute, July Soybean data from the April 25
low through June 8. It includes the detail of two of the projections shown
on the daily chart above plus the minor 100% high-high projection.
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We can see here also the June 13-14 and June 21-25 (Thursday-
Monday) periods are the next potential time targets. The same projection
on the intraday data may show as plus or minus a trading day from the
daily data projection depending if the actual high or low the projection was
made from was made early or late in the day.
If we consider the projections from both charts, June 12-14 and June
21-26 are the two Time Target Zones for a high. Is one more probable
than the other? Each has about an equal number of projections. I would
give a slight edge to the June 21-26 period because it includes the 100%
Alternate Time Projection of the April 25 low to May 18 high (Wave 1 or A)
from the May 30 low (Wave 2 or B).
Soybean Time Targets for a High
June 12-14 and June 21-26
Let’s make the Dynamic Time Projections for the current position of the
S&P. Below is the daily chart through Monday, June 11. What time
projections should be made?
Since the S&P is declining from the May 22 high, the objective is to
identify the high-probability time target for the next low. The next daily
chart shows the three typical sets of projections we would make:
Recent Low – Low Time Cycle Ratio projections.
Time Retracements of the recent advance.
Alternate Time Projections of the recent decline.
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There is one projection from each of the three sets that fall in either the
June 14 or June 20-21 Time Target Zones. If the decline from the May 22
high is a correction, the corrective low should be made in one of these
zones. Is one more probable than the other? My first choice would be
June 13-15 (June 14 +/- one trading day) because it includes the 100%
ATP where W.C = 100% W.A.
Lesson T hree
More Time Target Zones for Support, Resistance and Trend
Change
By Robert Miner, Dynamic Traders Group, Inc.
In part one of this Dynamic Time Analysis tutorial series, we learned the
basic dynamic time analysis methods including Time Retracements,
Alternate Time Projections and Time Cycle Ratios. If you are not familiar
with these terms and each method they represent, please review part one.
This tutorial will assume you are very familiar with each of these three time
projection techniques.
Part 2 in this series sent last week taught you how to project in
advance a relatively narrow range of time for support, resistance or trend
reversal that we often call Time Target Zones. The Time Target Zones are
projected in advance and have a high probability of being the minimum
targets for a trend or counter-trend swing or the end of a larger degree
trend.
Parts one and two are in the archive section of the Subscribers page.
This week’s lesson will use a current example of how to use both the
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longer and shorter term dynamic time projections to confirm or invalidate
the a projected Time Target.
These projections are spread out fairly evenly from July 11 to Sept. 7.
There might be some emphasis on the early part of this period – July 11 –
Aug. 7 – but there is no 2-5 trading day period that includes three or four
projections.
These projections do not point to a high probability time target zone for
a change in trend. Lesson learned – Don’t try to make something out of
nothing. While we might want to be alert on some of these dates, they
would only be significant if some short-term projections fell on the dates
and/or there were some time counts on these dates. A later tutorial in this
series will teach you how to use trading and calendar day counts. From
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The top set of projections labeled #1 are the 61.8%, 100% and 162%
high to high time cycle ratio projections. The second set is the time
retracements of the last minor decline. The third set is the 100% and
162% alternate time projections of the most recent swing up, May 30 low
to June 12 high, projected from the June 15 low. The fourth set of
projections are the 100% and 162% alternate time projections of the
second most recent advance, April 25 low to May 18 high, from the June
15 low.
The first thing we can do is eliminate the two “out-liers” on July 20 and
25. They don’t coincide with any other projections and are far out from
most of the projections.
The first coincidental period is the afternoon of June 26 to the morning
of June 27 which includes two projections – the 62% high-to-high TCR
from set #1 and the 100% time retracement from set #2.
The second coincidental period is the afternoon of June 29 which
includes the 100% ATP from set #3 and the 162% time retracement from
set #2.
The July 6 projection from set #1 is out by itself so it shouldn’t be
considered.
The third coincidental period is the afternoon of July 10 to the morning
of July 11 which includes a projection from set #3 and #4.
Can one of the three coincidental periods be singled out as more valid
than the others? Or, can at least one of the three be eliminated from
contention?
Recall from last week’s tutorial, #2 is this series, that the recent swing
on the daily data projected the relatively broad period of June 21-26 as the
most probable Time Target Zone for a high in June. The first period
described above in the June 26-27 period begins at the extreme of the
daily data projection. The second period, June 29, is three trading days
later. We should begin by eliminating the third period, July 10-11 for now.
There is nothing about the individual short-term projections in either
the June 26-27 or June 29 periods that makes one of those periods stand
out. So, we should concentrate on the June 26-27 period because it
partially overlaps with the larger degree target for a potential high of June
21-26 shown in last week’s tutorial.
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The daily chart below shows some of the time projections of recent
swings shown in last week’s tutorial. The recent high was made on June
12, right in the June 12-14 target. The next target for a high if beans
continue to advance is June 25-27 which includes time projections from
the daily chart below and the 60-minute data above.
Lessons Learned
In the first three tutorials in this series, we have learned how to make the
three basic types of dynamic time projections, how to recognize the Time
Target Zone clusters of projections and how to update the target zones
with the longer and shorter term time frames.
In the next week’s tutorial, we will see if there are dynamic time
projections that are helpful to project the minimum and maximum time
targets for a trend or counter trend.
Lesson Four
More Time Target Zones
By Robert Miner, Dynamic Traders Group, Inc.
In part one of this Dynamic Time Analysis tutorial series, we learned the
basic dynamic time analysis methods including Time Retracements,
Alternate Time Projections and Time Cycle Ratios. If you are not familiar
with these terms and each method they represent, please review part one.
This tutorial will assume you are very familiar with each of these three time
projection techniques and their common application.
Part 2 in this series taught you how to project in advance a relatively
narrow range of time for support, resistance or trend reversal that we often
call Time Target Zones. The Time Target Zones are projected in advance
and have a high probability of being the minimum targets for a trend or
counter-trend swing or the end of a larger degree trend.
Part 3 showed examples of projecting the potential time targets in
advance for the current position of a market.
This week’s lesson will also use a current example of how to use the
Time Cycle Ratio, Time Retracements and Alternate Time Projections to
identify a critical time zone in advance.
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Parts one, two and three are in the archive section of the Subscribers
Page on our web site.
Since the April 23 low, beans have made a fairly regular series of
swings as of June 25. Let’s project the next probable time zone for a high
if the recent time rhythm continues. If the next high is made outside the
time projection, it will signal if beans are strong or weak.
The chart below is Nov. beans, 60-minute data from the April 25 low
through the morning of June 28. I have made five sets of time projections
labeled 1-5. Take a look at the chart, then we will see what is significant
about these projections.
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Lessons Learned
You now know how to make the typical Dynamic Time Projections with the
Time Retracements, H-H and L-L Time Cycle Ratios and Alternate Time
Cycles. You know how to look for the relatively narrow ranges of time
where projections from several sets coincide to identify a potential Time
Target for the next low or high. You know how to use a smaller degree
time frame to help provide an early signal of the trend direction. You also
know how to use the projections to identify a relatively broad period of
time that should be the minimum and maximum for the next high or low in
an essentially trading range market.
The next tutorial in this series will once again include Dynamic Time
Projection examples from one or two recent markets. We will then move
on to how to add calendar and trading day counts and L-L and H-H Time
Bands and Time Rhythm Zones to the Dynamic Time Projection Time
Targets to further pinpoint the high probability targets for trend change.
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Lesson Five
Time Target for a Bond Low
This week’s lesson will also use a current example of how to use the Time
Cycle Ratio, Time Retracements and Alternate Time Projections to identify
a critical time zone in advance.
Bonds – Monthly
The chart below is monthly bond data from the Oct. 1987 low. It shows the
major trend and counter-trend swings. If bonds completed a major
corrective high in March, what should be the minimum time target before
the next major low should be made? What would be the logical time
projections to give us the minimum time target for the next comparable
low?
I first measured the time range from low-low for the major swings
shown on the chart above. The low-low time counts are not shown on the
chart above. The two shortest low-low cycles were 19 and 25 months. We
assume the next comparable low will probably be made in the time range
of the prior low-lows. Nineteen months from the Jan. low is Aug. 2001 and
25 months is Feb. 2002. If bonds continue to decline beyond Aug., they
will probably not make a low prior to next year based on the recent low-
low time rhythm of the past 13 years.
Bonds were in a bull trend from Oct. 1987 to Oct. 1998. What is the
range of the momentum cycles, low-high, during that period? These bull
cycles were in the direction of the trend. The range was 12-28 months.
Twelve months from the March 2001 high is March 2002. Based on the
trend swings of the past 13 years, bonds should not make a low of
comparable degree to all the trend reversal highs and lows shown on the
monthly chart prior to March 2002.
Momentum Trends
You may have two questions about the comments above. The first, what
are momentum cycles? They are not necessarily obvious price pivot highs
and lows. Momentum cycles are the extreme highs and lows of the
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momentum indicator or when the indicator makes a cross over. The
momentum trends represent when a market slows down and speeds up its
trend. The momentum cycles usually closely coincide with the price pivots,
but not always.
Are we just concerned with the price lows and highs in a market are is
it just as useful to know when a trend is beginning another cycle up
whether it is from an extreme price low or not?
Trend Swings
I also measured the range of time of the trend swings of the momentum
cycles (low-high) during the 1987-1998 bull market but projected that
range from the March high. How can we justify comparing the time ranges
of low-high swings with a potential high-low swing?
If the major trend is down from the Oct. 1998 high, each bear swing
down is a “trend swing.” Each decline is in the direction of the larger
degree trend just as each rally between Oct. 1987 to Oct. 1998 was in the
direction of the larger degree trend.
If we compare the bear swings in a bear market with the bull swings in
a bull markets, we are comparing trend swings with trend swings. If we are
interested in the potential minimum to maximum range of time of trend
swings, it wouldn’t make sense to compare the corrections in a bull trend
(high-low swings) with the trend swings in a bear trend (high-low swings)
would it?
There will be more on momentum trends and trend swings in a future
tutorial.
So far, we have learned from comparing major low-low ranges and
trend ranges, if bonds decline beyond Aug., the decline will probably last
to Feb. or later next year. This itself is a very useful piece of information to
have, particularly after Aug. if bonds continue lower.
These time projections were made from the long-term trends
represented on the monthly data. Let’s move to a shorter time frame and
see what the next potential Time Target Zone is for bonds on the daily
chart.
The ratios in bold tend to be the most important for each of these four
sets of projections. Once these projections are made, we look to see if
there is a relatively narrow range of time that includes one projection from
two or three and preferably all four sets of projections. The same
procedure and basic set of projections are initially made in almost all
situations.
Aug. 15-31 includes one projection from each of the four sets. No two
other projections are even within two weeks of each other.
What side of the market should a trader favor for the next few weeks
based on the potential time target? As long as bonds do not exceed the
June high - the short side.
The time targets project the targets if a trend continues. If the trend is
voided, new targets must be made.
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The most common Time Cycle Ratios are the low-low or high-high
projections from the two most recent confirmed pivots.
Typically, two Time Retracements are made. One is the time
retracements of the larger degree trend. The second is the Time
Retracements of the most recent trend in the opposite direction of the
current trend.
The two most relevant Alternate Time Projections are the immediate
alternate trend that was in the same direction of the current trend and the
longest alternate trend of the prior larger degree trend.
The next chart shows each of these time projections.
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