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The document is a forum discussion thread about a Konica c284e copier that is stuck at the boot screen. Several technicians provide suggestions for troubleshooting the issue. They suggest that the problem is likely with the SSD board and that replacing it with a new, genuine Konica part following the proper procedures is needed to resolve the issue. One technician shares a story about a similar problem they had with a different Konica copier model that was very difficult to diagnose and required special assistance from Konica to resolve.

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Konica C284e Stuck at Boot Screen

The document is a forum discussion thread about a Konica c284e copier that is stuck at the boot screen. Several technicians provide suggestions for troubleshooting the issue. They suggest that the problem is likely with the SSD board and that replacing it with a new, genuine Konica part following the proper procedures is needed to resolve the issue. One technician shares a story about a similar problem they had with a different Konica copier model that was very difficult to diagnose and required special assistance from Konica to resolve.

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08-15-2018 #1 -= -= -= -= -=

dave36data
Konica c284e stuck at boot
Technician
screen
Join Date: Jul 2018
So this is a real weird problem, hopefully
Posts: 15
someone has had it before.......
Rep Power: 12
Konica c284e switches on and goes
through the shark fins ok and gets the
Konica logo in the corner but wont go any
further. Strange thing is that there are no
motors or fans activated during booting it
is totally quiet.

I thought boards or power supply so


using another machine I have swapped
the boards on the rear (as a set so as to
avoid problems) also hard drive, laser
assy, power supply and the board at front
of the machine behind the waste bottle.
It has also had a replacement fuser.

All boards/units removed were put in


other machine and worked fine. Firmware
has also been upgraded.

I feel that I am missing something


obvious but at the moment I haven't got
a clue.....

Inspiration anyone???
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08-16-2018 #2

Synthohol
Re: Konica c284e stuck at boot
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2,500+ Posts
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SSD board.
hope you are working for a dealer, its
special procedure ordering.

Join Date: Mar 2016


Location: North Jersey
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We know a thing or two because we've


seen a thing or two.
Also don't ask me for files without a
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08-16-2018 #3

mincopier
Re: Konica c284e stuck at boot
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250+ Posts
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Join Date: Dec 2015


Agree that it is the SSD/NVRAM. Do not
Location: Pooler, GA use a used NVRAM on this series. You will
Posts: 290 have two screwed up machines. It must
be replaced with a brand new one from
Rep Power: 22 Konicaminolta. Dealer only item. Tech
support must be called first, you must
have a valid tech ID and be certified by
Konicaminolta on this machine.

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08-16-2018 #4

907tec
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I'm concerned that your approach might Your Link Here
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have been a little heavy-handed. There
Posts: 436
are a few things to try before you take
Rep Power: 38 the "shotgun approach", i.e. "changing all
the boards". Not sure if you were using
hyperbole, but that is just not going to
work on this series of machines.
Generally a bad idea to replace all the
boards at once, especially with the 4-
series and newer. Personally, I would
reinstall all the original parts before
continuing. I'm assuming that you aren't
a Konica tech, due to your approach to
this issue. For instance, having the SSD
version number, and firmware level,
would be relevant to this situation.

I will say... I dealt with a similar problem


on a C364e last year. Machine stuck
during boot, though it was at the "2
pillars" stage. Couldn't boot into service
mode, so couldn't perform board
backups/data transfer. SSD was at 6.01,
but would code out (error 3320) when
attempting to update. SSD tool did not
work. Machine would not load MFP
firmware (of any version). Tried removing
all options, unplugging everything one by
one, replacing DCPU, SSD, MFPB, and on
and on and on. Everyone, including
Konica, was stumped.

There is a long, long and twisted service


history on this machine, enough to fill
several posts. It was eventually
recommended that I change the PWB-
MCL board. However, this board is
impossible to replace without having data
backed up in service mode. Turns out,
Konica has a magical device that is able
to program a *new/unused* PWB-MCL
with the relevant data to a particular
Serial Number/Machine. There is
(rumored) to be only one of these devices
in North America and another in Japan.
The North American team had to have the
required files prepared by a team in
Japan, then sent to the US, programmed
into the new "donor" board, then shipped
to me.

It didn't help.

The machine got scrapped the next


month.

Thought it was an interesting story,


though.

If you are interested, I can go through


my notes/emails/SSD ticket related to
this issue.

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08-16-2018 #5

mincopier
Re: Konica c284e stuck at boot
Senior Tech
250+ Posts
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Join Date: Dec 2015


Konicaminolta NVRAM Troubleshooting
Location: Pooler, GA guide
Posts: 290
Dropbox - NVRAM_Final_1-16-13.pdf
Rep Power: 22

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08-16-2018 #6

dave36data
Re: Konica c284e stuck at boot
Technician
screen
Join Date: Jul 2018
Thanks for the info, I actually changed
Posts: 15
the SSD board as the first option with a
Rep Power: 12 brand new one from Konica, it didn’t
make a difference, but will double check
everything again.

Originally Posted by 907tec

I'm concerned that your


approach might have been a
little heavy-handed. There
are a few things to try before
you take the "shotgun
approach", i.e. "changing all
the boards". Not sure if you
were using hyperbole, but
that is just not going to work
on this series of machines.
Generally a bad idea to
replace all the boards at
once, especially with the 4-
series and newer. Personally,
I would reinstall all the
original parts before
continuing. I'm assuming
that you aren't a Konica tech,
due to your approach to this
issue. For instance, having
the SSD version number, and
firmware level, would be
relevant to this situation.

I will say... I dealt with a


similar problem on a C364e
last year. Machine stuck
during boot, though it was at
the "2 pillars" stage. Couldn't
boot into service mode, so
couldn't perform board
backups/data transfer. SSD
was at 6.01, but would code
out (error 3320) when
attempting to update. SSD
tool did not work. Machine
:
would not load MFP firmware
(of any version). Tried
removing all options,
unplugging everything one
by one, replacing DCPU,
SSD, MFPB, and on and on
and on. Everyone, including
Konica, was stumped.

There is a long, long and


twisted service history on
this machine, enough to fill
several posts. It was
eventually recommended
that I change the PWB-MCL
board. However, this board is
impossible to replace without
having data backed up in
service mode. Turns out,
Konica has a magical device
that is able to program a
*new/unused* PWB-MCL
with the relevant data to a
particular Serial
Number/Machine. There is
(rumored) to be only one of
these devices in North
America and another in
Japan. The North American
team had to have the
required files prepared by a
team in Japan, then sent to
the US, programmed into the
new "donor" board, then
shipped to me.

It didn't help.

The machine got scrapped


the next month.

Thought it was an interesting


story, though.

If you are interested, I can


go through my
notes/emails/SSD ticket
related to this issue.

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08-16-2018 #7

Vikingrepairguy
Re: Konica c284e stuck at boot
Technician
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Join Date: Mar 2017
I sure hope you tried new firmware first?
Location: Alexandria, MN
Posts: 21

Rep Power: 14

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08-16-2018 #8

copier tech
Re: Konica c284e stuck at boot
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5,000+ Posts
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Originally Posted by
Vikingrepairguy

I sure hope you tried new


firmware first?

I thought the same, latest firmware


should be the first step much quicker
than replacing all boards!

Join Date: Jan 2014


Location: London
Posts: 7,430

Rep Power: 179

Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because


tomorrow we may die!

For all your firmware & service manual needs please


visit us at:

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08-16-2018 #9

dave36data
Re: Konica c284e stuck at boot
Technician
screen
Join Date: Jul 2018
Yes latest firmware has been applied. I
Posts: 15
did that first of all.
Rep Power: 12

Originally Posted by copier


tech

I thought the same, latest


firmware should be the first
step much quicker than
replacing all boards!

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08-17-2018 #10

allan
Re: Konica c284e stuck at boot
RTFM!!
5,000+ Posts
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About changing board on these machines,
in this case you can swap out one board
at a time to test.
Trick is if that board is not the problem
put the boards back where you found
them then power up both, then try the
next one.
This includes the SSD.
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Centurion If you managed to fix the issue put all the
Posts: 5,321 boards back where you found them and
Rep Power: 151
order the board you need.
Unless the donor machine is scraped just
leave it in there and all should be well.

Would be use full if someone here can


expand on the reset tool use.

So you can use used boards.

Whatever

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