Control Room Questions and Answers
Control Room Questions and Answers
2) PLC is faster system than DCS. 3) DCS can handles handsome quantity of I/Os so that can be used for total
plant automation. Where as PLC has own limitations so it generally used for small but for important(Safety
point of view) units, like boiler automations, Make-up compressor automations Etc.
4) In the above mentioned case the these PLC’s can be get connected with the DCS with the help of soft link.
Generally this is used to make alert to both the operator.
5) As I heard the PLC used to handle the DI/DO signals so it can take fast actions. Some of the time it is used
to handle few nos of AI/AO.
6) DCS & PLC’s speed depends on the scan rate of I/Os.
7) For both the system Marshalling panels, Consoles and other faculties of Ethernet Etc can be used
according to the need.
8) According to the Cause and effects diagrams the System programmer assigns the control action block into
the system, we can call them as memory assigning.
What is potential free contact? What is the significance and application of this contact?
Contacts having not potential. E.g. Relay contacts/ field switches contacts. They are used in logic circuits.
However it must be ensured that the contact ratings are suitable for the service in which it is used.
In split range control, whether the signal is splitted through I/P convertor or the convertor itself?
This can be typically achieved by two ways:
By connecting o/p of one I/P converter to two positioners adjusted suitably for split range operation of
control valves.
Taking two Analog Outputs (AO) from DCS. Split range to be defined in DCS. Both I/P converters and
positioners to be calibrated with input as 4to20 ma dc and 3to15 psi respectively.
What is the sensor used in coriollis mass flow meter to measure density?
Density is measured here by measuring the resonant frequency of a vibrating U-tube.
What if thermocouple wire is opened in the field? What signal goes to DCS?
In most modern instruments the signal may be programmed to go to either maximum or minimum
depending upon end user’s requirement.
if the power supply connections to a two-wire transmitter get interchanged? What signal will go to
DCS?
Usually there is a blocking diode to protect the transmitter against supply reversal and almost zero current
signal should be transmitted.
What are the possible reasons for the failure of barrier? !?!
Fuse blowing sometimes. Power circuits are most likely to fail.
How can we say that the given RTD or Thermocouple is correct?
We can only measure sensor output (resistance / maillots ) accurately and look-up corresponding
temperature in reference tables.
The accuracy depends upon quality / condition of the sensor. Degraded sensors may not give accurate
readings and must be replaced.
To test a sensor, the sensor response may be tested using a high quality temperature calibrator and
compared with reference tables.
In some cases we have to select the cam position in a control valve for different application? How do
we select that?
Refer to instruction manual for the positioner / control valve.
The cams are often marked with limited amount of information, which may help an experienced person.
A fieldbus is a multidropping arrangement where multiple instruments communicate with special interface
hardware using the same pair of wires and in most of the cases draw power from the same pair of wires.
What happens if transmitter wires get shorted?
The barrier if installed limits electrical energy flowing into hazardous area. If there is no barrier, typically a
fuse in the power distribution system will blow.
What will happen if thermocouple wires get shorted?
A cold junction compensated instrument will typically indicate temperature of the location where the T/C
wires are shorted.
How to calculate the safe distance between cables to avoid electromagnetic interference of each
other ?
The design engineers / equipment manufacturers follow/publish certain guidelines w.r.t. different types of
cables and the voltages/currents and types of signals carried by them.
How Control loop should be tuned in process loop?
You may use Ziegler-Nichol’s method ( open loop / closed loop ) or special tuning software tools.
What is the significance of single ended & differential ended input for PLC? Application wise
comparison of these two types of inputs?
Differential inputs provide better common mode rejection and signal-to-noise ratio.
In a globe type control valve, what is the importance of flow direction (top to bottom or bottom to
top)?
Control valves must be installed as per direction marking provided by the manufacturers or instruction
manuals. Though people tend to generalize, this is often misleading.
What is ATEX directives / FM Approval / CSA approved / CE certified ? What is the importance of
individual certification? Are all these certification required for each instruments? Which
certification do we prefer?
ATEX/FM/CSA certifications generally refer to certification for suitability of instruments for use in
hazardous area when installed in accordance with recommended guidelines.
Any certification, which is locally acceptable as per statutory requirements, may be used. We typically accept
American/European/Indian certifications/approvals in India.
Application wise advantages of Inductive type proximity switches over capacitive type switches?
Inductive proximity switches are better suited for detection of conducting metal objects and are easily tested
for proper operation.
Capacitive switches are typically used for detecting non-conductive materials.
So in case if fire/Explosion takes place in the plant than that has to be restricted from entering into the
control room. So MCT (Multiple cable transient) blocks are used.
They are designed to sustain the fire for a fixed time duration. That block hold the cables which are entering
into the CCR.
Instrument JB’s?
Instrument JB’s depend upon hazards area classification.
JB’s also can be IS or NIS
For IS signal IS JB’s used for NIS signal NIS JB’s used
For analog I/p & o/p signal we can use same JB. But for Digital I/p & o/p we have to use separate
JB’s. Because digital outputs are powered signal, by wrong connection there may be chances to damage
the card. For DCS I/p & o/p and PLC I/p & o/p we used separate JB’s.
What is open loop & close loop?
OPEN LOOP : This is nothing but to sense the process signals from the field and to send it to the control
room for operator observation.
CLOSE LOOP : This is measuring the process signals for operator’s action. Means Transmitter sense the
process and send it to the control room. Where the operators takes action i.e. control action and that given to
the final control element as per the process requirement.
What is a PID controller?
PID stands for Proportional-Integral-Derivative. This is a type of feedback controller whose output, a control
variable (CV), is generally based on the error (e) between some user-defined set point (SP) and some
measured process variable (PV). Each element of the PID controller refers to a particular action taken on the
error:
Proportional : error multiplied by a gain, Kp. This is an adjustable amplifier. In many systems Kp is
responsible for process stability: too low and the PV can drift away; too high and the PV can oscillate.
Integral: the integral of error multiplied by a gain, Ki. In many systems Ki is responsible for driving
error to zero, but to set Ki too high is to invite oscillation or instability or integrator windup or actuator
saturation.
Derivative : the rate of change of error multiplied by a gain, Kd. In many systems Kd is responsible for
system response: too high and the PV will oscillate; too low and the PV will respond sluggishly. The
designer should also note that derivative action amplifies any noise in the error signal.
Tuning of a PID involves the adjustment of Kp, Ki, and Kd to achieve some user-defined “optimal” character of
system response.
Alarms Questions and Answers
For example, if a limit alarm is calibrated to trip at a 14.7 mA input, and un-trip at 13.5 mA, the deadband,
(or differential) is 1.2 mA.
What input range is used for the dc input limit alarms to accept a 4/20 mA signal?
All the input ranges for the Action Instruments’ field configurable devices are zero based. One of the input
ranges is 20 mA. This is the input range to use for all signals up to 20 mA.
Accuracy is not affected. Having the input range begin at zero allows a limit alarm to be used for open circuit
detection.
Electrical sparks
Electrical arcs
Flames
Hot surfaces
Static electricity
Electromagnetic radiation
Chemical reactions
Mechanical impact
Mechanical friction
Compression ignition
Acoustic energy
Ionizing radiation
What Industries are Intrinsically Safe Products Designed for?
Petrochemical
Oil platforms and refineries
Pharmaceutical
Pipelines
Any environment where explosive gases or vapors could be present
The Three Key Elements of Combustion are:
Inflammable material (gases, particles/dust)
Oxygen/air
Ignition source
This combination is very common in chemical, petro-chemical, and pharmaceutical industries.
Examples of the amount of inflammable material necessary for ignition below show how small of an amount
it takes to present a danger to workers.
National Electrical Code (NEC), is the basis for all electrical codes in the United States.
Classifications and related product markings for hazardous areas are covered in NEC 500 and 505.
Interpretations of NEC 500, a longstanding regulation are utilized throughout the world (outside Europe).
NEC 505 is similar to ATEX.
The vortex frequency is proportional to the flow velocity, and corresponds to a specific range
of Reynolds numbers.
The vortex frequency (f) is calculated by the formula; f=St*v/d
v: flow velocity, d: width of shedder bar, St: Strouhal number
When the thermocouple wires are connected to an instrument, two more thermocouple junctions are
created, because the terminals are made of a different material than the thermocouple wires. These “extra”
junctions, (called cold junctions), create their own Voltage, which alters the Voltage generated by the actual
thermocouple.
Cold junction compensation negates the voltage created by these cold junctions, allowing only the Voltage
created by the thermocouple to be sensed by the instrument.
A thermocouple produces a potential difference between the two dissimilar metals that varies with
temperature and is repeatable. The measurement is therefore a voltage.
The resistance of an RTD changes with temperature, therefore, a constant DC current excitation source is
used as a reference to produce a proportionally changing voltage.
Thus a signal conditioner which measures an RTD input provides a current reference as excitation and
measures the voltage produced.
When the junction of the two metals is heated or cooled a voltage is produced that can be correlated back to
the temperature. The thermocouple alloys are commonly available as wire.
Temperature range
Chemical resistance of the thermocouple or sheath material
Abrasion and vibration resistance
Installation requirements (may need to be compatible with existing equipment; existing holes may
determine probe diameter)
Explain Thermocouple Ranges and Limits of Error
Each product has an output compliance specification that can usually be found on the last page of the data
sheet. We can determine the maximum allowable load by using Ohm’s Law.
For example, if the compliance of a 4-20 mA output signal is 15 V, then the maximum load is 750 ohms. (15 V
/ 0.02 A)=750 ohms.
What is the maximum load I can connect to the output of a 2-wire transmitter?
Unlike a 4-wire transmitter, the maximum load that can be connected to a 2-wire transmitter is dependent
on the power supply used to power the output current loop and the loop voltage drop of the 2-wire
transmitter. The 2-wire transmitter has a minimum source voltage and a maximum source voltage.
The maximum output load would be realized using the maximum output source voltage. A 24 Vdc supply is
most often used. The general formula is:
For example, the RTD input transmitter has a loop voltage drop of 12 V. If a 24 Vdc power supply is used,
what is the maximum load that can be connected to the output loop? Using the above formula the maximum
load is 600 ohms.
The power for a four-wire transmitter can be either AC or DC and the output signal can be either voltage or
current. The two-wire transmitter has two wires for both power and the output signal.
A two-wire transmitter is always DC powered and the output can only be a current signal, typically 4-20mA.
The three-wire transmitter uses two wires for power and the third wire is used for the output signal (+)
positive terminal.
The power (-) negative terminal is used as a common reference for power and the signal (-) negative
reference. This allows the best of both transmitter features to be utilized. There is one less wire required
than a four-wire transmitter and powered outputs are provided for both 4-20mA signals and 0-10V signals.
These transmitters can be lower in cost than four-wire transmitters because they are DC powered and do
not incorporate an isolating power supply.
However, designers must be aware of grounding especially since several transmitters are usually connected
to one power supply, and the negative (-) terminal is common to all signals.
The sensitivity potentiometer allows fine adjustment of the filter threshold within the chosen range. The
purpose of the input filter is to block low-level electrical noise from the input of the device.
The presence of noise makes it harder for the unit to recognize the input frequency. Ideally, the filter is
adjusted to block the low-level electrical noise, allowing only the desired input signal to be sensed by the
signal conditioner.
They typically use a liquid crystal display (LCD) for indication and are very easy to use since they can easily
be included in a 4-20mA loop, requiring only a few volts (1 to 4V) of loop drive.
General Signal Conditioning
A bipolar signal is negative as well as positive, such as: -10 to 10 Volts, -5 to 5 volts and -20 to 20 milliamps.
The current drive of the device providing the voltage signal cannot be exceeded if accurate signals are
expected. Most 0/10 V output sourcing devices have a drive of 10 mA which translates (using Ohm’s Law:
V=IR) to a minimum load of 1000 Ohms.
It may become necessary to use an isolator as a voltage repeater. Voltage input devices should have a high
input impedance, >100,000 Ohms.
If the signal is a current signal the devices are connected in series. It is critical to know the total input
impedance of all the devices. Connecting devices in series increases the total impedance. The voltage drive of
the current loop is another critical piece of information.
Most current loops installed today are 4/20 mA. A typical current loop will have a voltage drive of 12 V
which translates (using Ohm’s Law) to a maximum loop resistance of 600 Ohms. Current input devices
typically have low input impedances, the lower the better.
Many controller input devices have 250 Ohm input impedance. Action Instruments current input devices are
even lower, typically 10-20 Ohms.
How do we convert a 0-5A AC signal coming from a current transformer (C/T) to a 4-20mA signal,
None of your products accept a 5A AC input?
A shunt resistor must be used. Action offers a a 0.1 Ohm shunt resistor.
Connecting the shunt resistor in series with the C/T’s output, the 5 A signal is converted to a 500 mV AC
signal via Ohm’s Law.
The live zero is an advantage in the case where signal wires might be damaged. If there were as open circuit
no current would flow (e.g. 0mA or -24% of full scale) and an operator would be sure to recognize a
problem, versus the case where a 0-10V signal is used and an open circuit would produce 0V (or an
intermediate value) which might be mistaken for 0% of full scale.
Regarding noise, the physical principals of electromagnetics prove that voltage signals and high impedance
voltage input instruments are much more susceptible to noise generated by radio transmitters or electric
motors and power lines than current signals and their low input impedance instruments.
Other popular signal levels are 1-5V and 2-10V which are the result of 4-20mA current signals and 250 Ohm
and 500 Ohm load resistors, respectively.
Questions & Answers on Temperature Classification
What is Temperature Classification?
Temperature classification (also known as temperature class, or T class) defines the maximum surface
temperature that a product destined for use in a potentially hazardous atmosphere is allowed to operate at,
relative to an ambient temperature of -20°C to +40°C.
According to the type of protection used on the product e.g. Exd, Exe etc, the temperature corresponds either
to the maximum temperature of the external surface of the product, or to the maximum temperature of the
internal surface of the product.
Generally, Temp-class is based on fault conditions or, at the very least, worst case normal operating
conditions.
Therefore, when selecting equipment, the Temperature class must be below the auto-ignition temperature
of the potentially explosive atmosphere where it will be installed.
If several different flammable materials may be present within a particular area, the material that gives the
lowest auto ignition temperature dictates the overall area classification.
T-Class and Equipment Marking
The ATEX directives typically require all products certified suitable for use in a hazardous area, e.g.
instruments, enclosures, luminaries etc to be marked with their temperature class.
Look out for a T number at the end of the protection concept marking on the product’s label.
e.g. EEx de IIB T3 indicates that this explosion proof apparatus has a temperature classification of T3 which
corresponds to a maximum surface temperature of 200°C.
Temperature Class for Group I Applications
“T” classes do not apply to group I applications. Equipment for use in the mining industry has either a rigid
150°C or 450°C limit.
Possibility of electrolytic action between the gland and the enclosure. Shortened lifetime for the
glands and the cable entries can result if incompatible materials selected. The most common materials
used are brass, stainless steel and plastic. Material choice will influence cost.
Degree of Ingress Protection required. See our page on IP ratings.
Certification of gland for use in Hazardous areas
Normal or barrier gland required
Size of cable being terminated
Size of cable entry on piece of equipment
What is a Barrier Gland?
Barrier glands are similar to normal glands, except a compound sealant material is used to ensure the inside
of the cable is gas tight as well as the outside.
There are various options to consider, however if the hazardous gas require IIC apparatus, or if the volume
of the enclosure is greater than 2 litres then it is likely you will need to use a barrier gland. IIC apparatus is
generally associated with Hydrogen.
Central to these combinations are a series of fourteen standard orifice sizes each denoted by a letter ranging
from D through to T. Each letter refers to a specific effective orifice area.
What do the orifices denote?
The valve sizing engineer (usually a process or instrument engineer) determines the controlling relieving
rate from all possible scenarios, then the required relief valve orifice size is determined using the
appropriate equation given in API.
Knowing the required relief valve orifice size, an actual orifice size equal to or greater than the calculated
orifice size is chosen from a the standard range. The maximum flow through this actual orifice will be the
valve’s capacity.
What are the standard orifice sizes?
The full list of letters and corresponding effective area is shown below
In any mixture of gases, the total pressure of the gas is the sum of the partial pressures of the component
gases. This is Dalton’s law and it is represented as follows:
Ptotal = P1 + P2 + P3 …
The quantity of any gas in a mixture can be expressed as a pressure. The major components of air are
nitrogen, oxygen, and water vapor, so total atmospheric pressure is composed of the partial pressures of
these three gases. While nitrogen and oxygen exist in stable concentrations, the concentration of water
vapor is highly variable and must be measured to be determined.
The maximum partial pressure of water vapor is strictly a function of temperature. For example, at 20 °C (68
°F), the maximum partial pressure of water vapor is 23.5 mbar. The value of 23.5 mbar is said to be the
“saturation vapor pressure” at 20 °C (68 °F).
In a 20 °C (68 °F), “saturated” environment, the addition of more water vapor results in the formation of
condensation. This condensation phenomenon can be exploited to measure water vapor content.
Gas of unknown water vapor concentration is passed over a temperature-controlled surface. The surface is
cooled until condensation forms. The temperature at which condensation forms is called the “dew point
temperature.”
Because there is a unique correlation between temperature and saturation vapor pressure (remember, the
maximum partial pressure of water vapor, also known as saturation vapor pressure, is strictly a function of
temperature), measuring the dew point temperature of a gas is a direct measurement of the partial pressure
of water vapor.
Knowing the dew point temperature, the corresponding saturation vapor pressure can be calculated or
looked up. The following table shows some values for temperature and the corresponding saturation vapor
pressure:
What is the difference between dew point and “pressure dew point?”
The term “pressure dew point” is encountered when measuring the dew point temperature of gases at
pressures higher than atmospheric pressure.
It refers to the dew point temperature of a gas under pressure. This is important because changing the
pressure of a gas changes the dew point temperature of the gas.
the partial pressure of water vapor (designated by the symbol “e”) is 2.8 mbar. If this air is compressed and
the total pressure is doubled to 2026.6 mbar, then according to Dalton’s law, the partial pressure of water
vapor, e,
is also doubled to the value of 5.6 mbar. The dew point temperature corresponding to 5.6 mbar is
approximately -1 °C (30 °F), so it is clear that increasing the pressure of the air has also increased the dew
point temperature of the air.
Conversely, expanding a compressed gas to atmospheric pressure decreases the partial pressures of all of
the component gases, including water vapor, and
therefore decreases the dew point temperature of the gas. The relationship of total pressure to the partial
pressure of water vapor, e, can be expressed as follows:
P1/P2 = e1/e2
By converting dew point temperature to the corresponding saturation vapor pressure, it is easy to calculate
the effect of changing total pressure on the saturation vapor pressure.
The new saturation vapor pressure value can then be converted back to the corresponding dew point
temperature. These calculations can be done manually using tables, or performed by various kinds of
software.
In some cases, dew point is important only because the pipes that carry the air are exposed to freezing
temperatures, where a high dew point could result in freezing and blockage of the pipes.
In many modern factories, compressed air is used to operate a variety of equipment, some of which may
malfunction if condensation forms on internal parts.
Certain water sensitive processes (e.g. paint spraying) that require compressed air may have specific
dryness specifications. Finally, medical and pharmaceutical processes may treat water vapor and other gases
as contaminants, requiring a very high level of purity.
What is the typical range of dew point temperatures to be found in compressed air?
Dew point temperatures in compressed air range from ambient down to -80 °C (-112 °F), sometimes
lower in special cases.
Compressor systems without air drying capability tend to produce compressed air that is saturated at
ambient temperature. Systems with refrigerant dryers pass the compressed air through some sort of cooled
heat exchanger , causing water to condense out of the air stream.
These systems typically produce air with a dew point no lower than 5 °C (41°F). Desiccant drying systems
absorb water vapor from the air stream and can produce air with a dew point of -40 °C (-40 °F) and drier if
required.
As an example, a system that conforms to ISO8573.1 and is rated for class 1.1.1 will provide air with a dew
point no higher than -70 °C (-94 °F). All remaining particles in the air will be 0.1 µm or smaller, and the
maximum oil content will be 0.01 mg/m3.
There are other standards for compressed air quality, such as ANSI/ISA- 7.0.01-1996 for instrument air.
Select an instrument with the correct measuring range:Some instruments are suitable for measuring
high dew points, but not low dew points. Similarly, some instruments are suitable for very low dew
points but are compromised when exposed to high dew points.
Understand the pressure characteristics of the dew point instrument: Some instruments are not
suitable for use at process pressure. They can be installed to measure compressed air after it is
expanded to atmospheric pressure, but the measured dew point value will have to be corrected if
pressure dew point is the desired measurement parameter.
Install the sensor correctly: Follow instructions from the manufacturer. Do not install dew point
sensors at the end of stubs or other “dead end” pieces of pipe where there is no airflow.