The Dichotomy of Leadership - Balancing The Challenges of Extreme Ownership To Lead and Win
The Dichotomy of Leadership - Balancing The Challenges of Extreme Ownership To Lead and Win
clearance operation in the Malaab District of eastern Ramadi alongside U.S. Soldiers of Task Force Red
Currahee, the legendary “Band of Brothers” of the 1st Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment
(1/506th), 101st Airborne Division. A 1/506th company commander, “Gunfighter Six,” an outstanding
warrior and professional Soldier, is in the foreground at right.
(Photo courtesy of Todd Pitman)
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Leif Babin
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The first Law of Combat: Cover and Move. This is teamwork—every
individual and team within the team, mutually supporting one another to
accomplish the mission. Departments and groups within the team, and even
those outside the immediate team that are nevertheless crucial to success,
must break down silos and work together to win. It doesn’t matter if one
element within the group does its job: if the team fails, everybody fails. But
when the overall team wins, everybody wins. Everyone gets to share in that
success.
The second Law of Combat: Simple. Complexity breeds chaos and
disaster, especially when things go wrong. And things always go wrong.
When plans and orders get too complex, the people charged with executing
those plans and orders do not understand them. When team members don’t
understand, they can’t execute. Therefore, plans must be simplified so that
everyone on the team recognizes the overall “commander’s intent”—the
greater purpose behind the mission—and understands their role in achieving
mission success. Orders must be communicated in a manner that is “simple,
clear, and concise.” The true test for whether plans and orders have been
communicated effectively is this: The team gets it. When the people on the
team understand, then they can execute.
The third Law of Combat: Prioritize and Execute. When multiple
problems occur simultaneously (which happens often), taking on too many
problems at once results in failure. It is imperative that leaders detach
themselves—pull back from the details—and assess to determine the highest
priority to the strategic mission. Then, once that highest-priority task has
been determined, leaders must clearly communicate that priority to the team
and ensure the team executes. Then the leaders and the team can move on to
the next priority. Then the next. Training and proper contingency planning
assist greatly to better prepare teams and leaders to most effectively Prioritize
and Execute under pressure, in real time.
The fourth Law of Combat: Decentralized Command. No one leader can
manage it all or make every decision. Instead, leadership must be
decentralized, with leaders at every level empowered to make decisions, right
down to the frontline troopers in charge of no one but themselves and their
small piece of the mission. With Decentralized Command, everyone leads.
To empower everyone on the team to lead, team members must understand
not just what to do but why they are doing it. This requires clear and frequent
communication up and down the chain of command—and most importantly:
trust. Junior leaders must have confidence that they clearly understand the
strategic mission, the commander’s intent of their boss, and the parameters
within which they can make decisions. Senior leaders must trust that their
junior leaders will make the right decisions and encourage them to do so.
This requires training and frequent communication to implement with
maximum effectiveness.
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There was one big problem with the book Extreme Ownership: the title.
While it drove home the most important leadership foundation in the book, it
was also slightly misleading. Extreme Ownership is the foundation of good
leadership. But leadership seldom requires extreme ideas or attitudes. In fact,
quite the opposite is true: leadership requires balance. We addressed that
concept in chapter 12 of Extreme Ownership, “Discipline Equals Freedom—
The Dichotomy of Leadership.” But as we assessed legions of leaders in
companies, teams, and organizations as they implemented the principles we
taught in the book, many struggled to find that balance. This struggle
represents the biggest challenge we observed as we trained and advised
hundreds of companies and thousands of leaders over the past few years with
our leadership consulting company, Echelon Front.
In the final chapter of Extreme Ownership, we wrote:
Every leader must walk a fine line.… Leadership requires finding the
equilibrium in the dichotomy of many seemingly contradictory
qualities, between one extreme and another. The simple recognition of
this is one of the most powerful tools a leader has. With this in mind, a
leader can more easily balance the opposing forces and lead with
maximum effectiveness.
Every behavior or characteristic carried out by a leader can be taken too
far. Leaders can become too extreme and upset the balance required to
effectively lead a team. When balance is lost, leadership suffers and the
team’s performance rapidly declines.
Even the fundamental principles of combat leadership in Extreme
Ownership can get out of balance. A leader can Cover and Move too much
and step on the toes of other leaders, departments, or divisions. A plan can be
too Simple and fail to cover likely contingencies. A team can go too far with
Prioritize and Execute, resulting in target fixation and loss of situational
awareness on newly emerging problems and threats. Decentralized Command
can also be taken too far, when too much autonomy is given to subordinate
leaders who then don’t fully understand strategic goals and how to execute in
support of those goals.
And this idea continues on with just about everything a leader does.
Leaders must be close with their people, but not so close that it becomes a
problem. They must hold the line with discipline but not become tyrannical.
A leader can even become too extreme with Extreme Ownership, when a
leader takes so much ownership of everything in his or her world that
members of the team feel there is nothing left for which they can take
ownership. When this happens, team members will execute only at the boss’s
specific direction without any root ownership or buy-in themselves, resulting
in a team far less capable of overcoming obstacles and accomplishing the
mission.
Therefore, balance in leadership is crucial to victory. It must be monitored
at all times and it must be modulated to specific situations as they arise. If a
team member fails to perform adequately, for example, a leader must get
down in the weeds and micromanage that member until he or she executes
correctly. But once the team member gets back on track and resumes
effective performance, the leader must maintain the ability to back off and
give that team member room to take greater ownership and manage tasks on
his or her own.
It is not easy to maintain the constant shift, continual modulation, and
frequent adjustment necessary to balance all the dichotomies across every
spectrum of leadership characteristics. Yet this skill is essential for effective
leadership.
We have observed these struggles continuously in good leaders striving to
be better. That is what drove us to go deeper into the concept of the
Dichotomy of Leadership. The goal of this book is to help leaders overcome
that struggle through examples of how to find the right balance in leadership
—to moderate the idea of leading from the extremes and focus on
maintaining balance—within teams, among peers, and both up and down the
chain of command. Every good leader must develop the ability to recognize,
understand, and adjust that balance. While it isn’t easy, through knowledge,
disciplined practice, and sustained effort, anyone can master finding the
equilibrium in the Dichotomy of Leadership. Those who do will dominate
their battlefield and lead their teams to victory.
PART I
BALANCING PEOPLE
Marc Lee’s combat gear—helmet, boots, and his carefully painted Mark 48 machine gun—staged to
honor him on the roof of the tactical operations center at Sharkbase, Task Unit Bruiser’s camp, which
was renamed Camp Marc Lee in his honor. While it was technically against regulations to fly the
American flag in Iraq, Task Unit Bruiser marked its headquarters with Old Glory. Marc fought for the
flag and his brothers-in-arms and was the first SEAL killed in action in Iraq. Task Unit Bruiser also lost
Michael Monsoor and, eventually, Ryan Job, who died from medical complications following a surgery
to repair his combat wounds.
(Photo courtesy of the authors)
CHAPTER 1
The Ultimate Dichotomy
Jocko Willink
Principle
There are limitless dichotomies in leadership, and a leader must carefully
balance between these opposite forces. But none are as difficult as this: to
care deeply for each individual member of the team, while at the same time
accepting the risks necessary to accomplish the mission. A good leader builds
powerful, strong relationships with his or her subordinates. But while that
leader would do anything for those team members, the leader must recognize
there is a job to do. And that job might put the very people the leader cares so
much about at risk.
In war, this is the ultimate dichotomy: a leader may have to send his most
treasured asset—his people—into a situation that gets them wounded or
killed. If his relationships are too close and he can’t detach from his
emotions, he might not be able to make tough choices that involve risk to his
men. With that attitude, the team will get nothing done—that team fails the
mission. At the other end of the spectrum, if a leader cares too much about
accomplishing the mission, he may sacrifice the health and safety of his men
without gaining any significant advantage. Beyond the horrible impact it has
on the men, it also impacts the team, who recognize the leader as callous and
no longer respect and follow him. The team will fall apart.
While not as extreme, this dichotomy reveals itself in the civilian sector as
well. This is one of the most difficult dichotomies to balance, and it can be
easy to go too far in either direction. If leaders develop overly close
relationships with their people, they may not be willing to make those people
do what is necessary to complete a project or a task. They may not have the
wherewithal to lay off individuals with whom they have relationships, even if
it is the right move for the good of the company. And some leaders get so
close to their people that they don’t want to have hard conversations with
them—they don’t want to tell them that they need to improve.
On the other hand, if a leader is too detached from the team, he or she may
overwork, overexpose, or otherwise harm its members while achieving no
significant value from that sacrifice. The leader may be too quick to fire
people to save a buck, thereby developing the reputation of not caring about
the team beyond its ability to support the strategic goals.
So leaders must find the balance. They must push hard without pushing
too hard. They must drive their team to accomplish the mission without
driving them off a cliff.
Application to Business
“These people work hard!” the regional manager told me emphatically. He
oversaw five mining operations, which pulled raw materials out of the ground
and sold them on the market as commodities. It was a straightforward
business: the cheaper the cost of production, the more money the business
made. But even with commodities, human beings’ lives and livelihoods come
into play.
“I know they do, I’ve seen them out there in the field,” I replied.
“You’ve seen them for a few hours. That’s nothing compared to the days,
weeks, months, and years on end these folks work to make this place
function,” the regional manager replied in an aggressive tone.
The regional manager clearly didn’t think I got it. I looked at it from his
perspective—he was right, I couldn’t fully appreciate what these men and
women did every day in the mines. But his aggressiveness also came from
the fact that he thought I was one of “them,” one of the corporate know-it-alls
who had been sent down from the ivory tower to help him try to “fix his
problem.” He was, of course, right: I had been sent from corporate to help
him fix his problem.
Eight months ago, corporate shut down one of his mines, moving the
number of mines he oversaw from six down to five. The cost to produce had
become too high, and the mine simply wasn’t making enough money. When
they shut it down, the regional manager kept about a quarter of the employees
on board, spreading them around his other mines. Corporate fought this, but
he fought harder, assuring his chain of command that with the additional
manpower at each of the remaining mines, production would increase across
the board. But it seemed evident that what really drove the regional
manager’s decision was the fact that he cared about his workforce—truly and
deeply cared. He was a third-generation miner. He knew the hardships of the
job.
My conversation with him was not going well. I had to de-escalate.
“I know that I don’t fully understand how hard they work,” I told him,
admitting I didn’t completely know the level of effort his people put in. “I’m
definitely no expert. But it is certainly obvious how hard they work, even
from only a couple of hours’ worth of observation.”
That wasn’t good enough for the regional manager.
“They aren’t just hard workers,” he responded. “They have skills. They
are some of the best operators in the world. Take Miguel, over there on the
backhoe. He is one of the best I’ve ever seen.” He pointed out the window at
a massive backhoe busily moving earth into a giant dump truck.
“Yeah. He runs that thing like it was part of his body. He is good,” I told
the regional manager.
“And you know what?” the regional manager continued. “He isn’t just a
good equipment operator—he’s a good man. He’s got a wife and four kids.
Good kids.”
“Family man,” I confirmed.
“Damn right,” the regional manager told me. “Damn right.”
“Well, let’s go to the office and talk through some of these numbers,” I
said, not wanting to put off the inevitable conversation any longer. The
regional manager knew the numbers better than I did. The surplus of
personnel from the mine that had closed had increased production at each of
his remaining mines, but not by nearly enough to make up for the added
expenses. He had too many employees now, and he knew it. The remaining
five mining operations for which he was responsible were not making enough
money.
We went into his office and sat down.
“I know what you are going to say,” he told me. From the tone of his
voice, I could tell he wanted to pick a fight—he wanted to be mad at me. I
had to tread carefully.
“Well. I guess I don’t need to say much, then,” I said. “The numbers
speak for themselves.”
“The numbers don’t tell the whole story,” the regional manager declared.
“Of course they don’t,” I responded. “But the numbers tell the part of the
story that pays the bills.”
“There’s more to it than that!” he replied, clearly frustrated.
“I know there is,” I told him, trying to be empathetic.
“Do you?” he responded aggressively.
I decided I needed to put him in check.
“Yes,” I told him firmly. “Yes, I absolutely do know.”
The regional manager sat there looking at me, slightly surprised at my
tone as I now claimed to understand his business. But it wasn’t his business I
was claiming to know. It was the situation he was facing as a leader.
“I know there are lots of people out there,” I said. “Lots of people who
depend on you to make the right decisions—decisions that determine if they
will continue to have a job or not; decisions that determine if they can pay
their mortgage and put food on the table for their families. Those are heavy
decisions and those are hard decisions. I’ve been there. I have had people’s
lives hinging upon decisions that I made. On what missions we did. On what
areas we went into. On who I assigned to do what. I sent my men—my
friends, my brothers—into harm’s way over and over and over again. And the
outcome was not always good.”
The regional manager was now listening—really listening to me for the
first time. I had finally connected with him.
“Look,” I continued, “you are the leader. And that comes with a heavy
burden. In the military, we call it the ‘burden of command.’ It is the
responsibility you feel for the lives of the people who work for you. In the
SEAL Teams, I was dealing with lives—here you deal with people’s
livelihoods. It isn’t the exact same thing, but it is close. People are counting
on you to keep their paychecks coming so they can feed their families. And
you care about these people, just as you should. Just like I cared about my
men—they were everything to me. They still are. That is one of the most
difficult dichotomies of leadership.”
“What is?” the regional manager asked.
“The fact that you care about your people more than anything—but at the
same time you have to lead them. And as a leader, you might have to make
decisions that hurt individuals on your team. But you also have to make
decisions that will allow you to continue the mission for the greater good of
everyone on the team. If military leaders decided that they were simply going
to shield their troops from every risk at all costs, what would they get
accomplished?”
“Well, they wouldn’t accomplish anything,” he admitted.
“That’s exactly right,” I said. “Where would our country be without the
military doing its job? I’ll tell you: we wouldn’t even have a country. That’s
why military leaders have to do what they do. And you are sitting in a very
similar position. You’ve done everything you can to save jobs. But the work
isn’t there. It just isn’t. You’ve been struggling for eight months. How many
employees did you transfer from the mine that closed?” I asked him.
“One hundred and forty-seven people,” the regional manager answered.
“And how many people did you employ at your other five mines prior to
their transfer?” I asked.
“About six hundred,” he said.
“So, in an effort to try to save the jobs of a hundred and forty-seven
employees,” I noted, “you are putting at risk the other five mines and six
hundred jobs—the entire mission. If you don’t make some hard decisions,
that is exactly what will happen.”
The regional manager sat quietly. It was sinking in. I could see it in his
eyes.
“But … I don’t know … I don’t know if I can do it,” he said soberly.
“Some of these folks are like family to me.”
“Well—let me tell you this,” I replied. “If you don’t step up and lead,
what do you think corporate will do?”
“They’ll either shut us down … or…” He trailed off, not wanting to admit
the other obvious possibility.
“Or what?” I asked.
“Or get rid of me,” he replied.
“Exactly,” I agreed. “Now what would be better for everyone here? To get
shut down completely? Or to have someone else who doesn’t care as much
for the team as you do come in, take over, and drive down costs by chopping
the staff to the extreme? I know it’s hard. I know. But if you don’t do what
you need to do—what you know you need to do—you aren’t helping anyone.
And you definitely aren’t leading. In fact, just the opposite. If you don’t make
the hard decision, you will be hurting the people you care about, not helping
them. That’s another dichotomy: in order to help your team, sometimes you
have to hurt them. Just like a doctor performing a surgery. Surgery is a brutal
thing: cutting open a body and removing parts of it, then sewing it back
together. But in order to save a life, a surgeon has to do just that. What you
have to do here is also brutal—I get it. But failure to do it is going to have far
more brutal consequences.”
The regional manager was nodding. He understood. He was a good-
hearted leader who cared for his people, an admirable and important quality
in a leader. But he had strayed too far and unbalanced the dichotomy by
caring more about his people than he did about the mission. He lost sight of
what was most important strategically. To protect some employees, he had
placed his entire mission and every other employee at risk. Now, he
understood that doing so was a failure of leadership. Once he acknowledged
this, he could then course correct and rebalance the dichotomy. He had to
make the tough decisions. He didn’t like it, but he understood.
Over the next two weeks, the regional manager let go of almost eighty
people. He didn’t like it. But he had to do it. He had to lead. That cost savings
moved the mines from the red into the black. They were profitable once again
and on a sustainable path for the foreseeable future. The regional manager
now understood this most difficult dichotomy of leadership: a leader must
care about the troops, but at the same time the leader must complete the
mission, and in doing so there will be risks and sometimes unavoidable
consequences to the troops. The regional manager now realized that he had to
balance caring for his people with accomplishing the mission and that failing
to balance those two opposing goals would result in his failure to do either.
SEAL Team Seven Echo Platoon rolling out on a nighttime direct action mission to capture or kill
suspected terrorists in Baghdad, 2003. Note: the Humvees had no armor and doors were removed so
that the SEAL operators inside could face outward, enabling them to both return fire with their rifles as
well as present their body armor ballistic plates to threats for at least some level of protection.
(Photo courtesy of Jocko Willink)
CHAPTER 2
Own It All, but Empower Others
Jocko Willink
Principle
Micromanagement and hands-off leadership styles are obviously opposites.
The micromanager tries to control every thought and action of each
individual on the team. Micromanagement fails because no one person can
control multiple people executing a vast number of actions in a dynamic
environment, where changes in the situation occur rapidly and with
unpredictability. It also inhibits the growth of subordinates: when people
become accustomed to being told what to do, they begin to await direction.
Initiative fades and eventually dies. Creativity and bold thought and action
soon die as well. The team becomes a bunch of simple and thoughtless
automatons, following orders without understanding, moving forward only
when told to do so. A team like that will never achieve greatness.
The hands-off leader with a laissez-faire attitude is on the opposite end of
the spectrum. Such a leader fails to provide specific direction—in some cases
almost no clear direction whatsoever. Instead of a lack of thought like a team
that is micromanaged, a team with a hands-off leader thinks too much. Its
members have grand ideas and plans, they come up with new tactics and
procedures—they even start to develop their own broad strategies beyond the
boundaries of their responsibilities and competence. Such grandiose ideas
and thoughts become a major problem when they are not aligned with the
greater vision and goals of the company. So the troops, instead of pushing the
team toward its strategic goals, move in random directions. They not only fail
to provide each other with simple support but often work on projects or
efforts that directly conflict with what other members of the team are doing.
In order to correctly balance these two leadership styles, a leader must
find the middle ground and pay attention to the team, ensuring that the leader
doesn’t push too far in one direction or the other. There are some clear
warning signs that indicate when a leader has leaned too far in the direction
of one of these leadership styles. Here are the commons symptoms that result
from micromanagement:
1. The team shows a lack of initiative. Members will not take action
unless directed.
2. The team does not seek solutions to problems; instead, its members
sit and wait to be told about a solution.
3. Even in an emergency, a team that is being micromanaged will not
mobilize and take action.
4. Bold and aggressive action becomes rare.
5. Creativity grinds to a halt.
6. The team tends to stay inside their own silo; not stepping out to
coordinate efforts with other departments or divisions for fear of
overstepping their bounds.
7. An overall sense of passivity and failure to react.
Once a leader sees these behaviors in the team, corrective action must be
taken. The leader must pull back from giving detailed direction; instead of
explaining what the mission is and how to accomplish it, the leader should
explain the broad goal of the mission, the end state that is desired, and why
the mission is important and then allow the team to plan how to execute the
mission. The leader should continue to monitor what is happening and check
the progress of the team but refrain from giving specific guidance on the
execution, unless the plan that is being formulated by the team will have
extremely negative results. Finally, if there is an opportunity when time and
risk levels permit, a leader can step away from the team completely and allow
it to plan and execute a mission on its own. In Task Unit Bruiser, this was
done regularly during our pre-deployment training cycle. Senior leadership,
including Leif, the Delta Platoon commander, Seth Stone, and the senior
enlisted personnel, would step back and allow junior leaders to step up, plan,
and execute training missions. We saw the junior leaders quickly transform
from passively waiting to be told what to do into proactive leaders who
assessed problems and implemented solutions.
Here are common symptoms that indicate when a leader is too hands-off
with his team:
1. Lack of vision in what the team is trying to do and how to do it.
2. Lack of coordination between individuals on the team and efforts
that often compete or interfere with each other.
3. Initiative oversteps the bounds of authority, and both individuals and
teams carry out actions that are beyond what they have the
authorization to do.
4. Failure to coordinate. While a micromanaged team might not
coordinate with other teams because it doesn’t want to overstep its
bounds, a team without good guidance may also fail to coordinate
not out of fear but out of ignorance. In its efforts to solve problems
and accomplish the mission, the team forgets that other teams might
also be maneuvering and end up interfering with their efforts.
5. The team is focused on the wrong priority mission or pursuit of
solutions that are not in keeping with the strategic direction of the
team or the commander’s intent.
6. There are too many people trying to lead. Since everyone is trying to
lead, there won’t be enough people to execute. Instead of progress,
the leader will see discussion; instead of action, the leader will see
prolonged debate; instead of unified movement, the leader will see
fractured elements pursuing individual efforts.
When these behaviors are observed by a leader, there are some basic
actions to take to get the team back on course. First and foremost, clear
guidance must be given. The mission, the goal, and the end state must be
explained in a simple, clear, and concise manner. The team must also
understand the boundaries that are in place and what actions to take should it
bump up against those boundaries. If multiple, simultaneous, overlapping
efforts are being pursued, the leader must decide on and clearly implement
the chosen course of action. The team must also be educated on efforts being
executed by other teams so that deconfliction can occur. Finally, if a team is
paralyzed by too many people trying to lead—the classic case of “too many
coaches, not enough players”—then the leader must assign and clearly
delineate the chain of command, roles, and responsibilities of the team
leaders and give them proper authority.
I saw this manifest itself in SEAL task units, including Task Unit Bruiser,
when a mission tasking would be given to the platoons without a clearly
assigned lead. A SEAL task unit consists of two platoons, each with its own
leadership: a platoon commander, a platoon chief, an assistant platoon
commander, and a leading petty officer. If a mission was given to the
platoons without assigning a platoon as the lead, they would both begin to
come up with their own separate and distinct plans and courses of action. The
longer the platoons were left without guidance as to which one had the lead
on the operation, the further they would head down the paths of their own
plans, wasting time and effort. This is easily solved by delineating one
platoon as the lead element on the operation and the other as the supporting
element. With that clear direction, efforts were coordinated and the team
could work together toward a unified plan.
But once again, the key is balance, maintaining an equilibrium where the
troops have the guidance to execute but at the same time the freedom to make
decisions and lead.
Application to Business
The finished product had been sold. The problem was, the finished product
wasn’t finished yet. Sure, there were some functional beta models that had
been manufactured one at a time by hand, but no final version had been
solidified. Furthermore, no standard manufacturing process had been
established for a large production run.
What made this even harder was the industry. The product was to be
utilized in cars, which added some significant difficulties. First, the software
to integrate it had to be interoperable with several different manufacturers
and their car models. Second, the product had to fit into pre-designed spaces
that allowed no significant change in shape or volume of the equipment.
Finally, given the safety regulations in vehicle production, there was very
little leeway with regard to material that could be used in manufacturing.
When I showed up to run leadership training aimed at developing new
leaders at this growing company, things seemed to be on track. While the
company was well established with many years in the industry, it was in a
growth phase and needed training for newly promoted and hired leaders. The
attitude at the company was excellent, and the employees were abuzz with
the opportunities ahead and the promising progress on the horizon.
There was also a great deal of confidence. Much of the company’s growth
was geared toward supporting a high-demand signal for a new product that
the company planned to release. When I first showed up to work with the
company, it was in the final stages of the new product rollout. They had
completed the bulk of the design, done preliminary testing on the software,
and initiated the rollout of a manufacturing process for adaptation to the final
design. Sales had already started, and they were strong. Overall, I was
impressed with the situation and how things were going. I spent most of my
time training the newly promoted and hired leaders. The rest of the time I
spent in familiarization with the company’s leadership and the state of the
business.
When the three-day leadership development program I ran for the
company’s new leaders was complete, I departed with a plan to return in six
weeks. At that time, I would host follow-on training for those leaders from
the first course and run a new course for the next round of new hires and
recently promoted leaders.
But when I returned six weeks later, the atmosphere at the company had
completely changed. Gone was the enthusiasm and the confidence. Gone was
the vision of opportunity and success. There was a new attitude: fear and
uncertainty.
The CEO was blunt with me. “I don’t think we are going to make it,” he
said, referring to the scheduled release of the new product. “Since the last
time you were here, we have barely moved. Our progress has ground to a
halt. The teams just aren’t getting anything done.”
“Are these the team leaders that I just trained?” I asked him, referring to
the group of midlevel managers who had been through Echelon Front’s basic
leadership course.
“No. Not at all,” the CEO answered. “They are the least of my problems.
I’m not getting performance from my senior leaders.”
“What seems to be the issue?” I asked.
“I don’t know,” he replied. “But we need to get it fixed. Can we postpone
your next block of training for the midlevel managers so you can spend a few
days with my senior leadership team to figure out what is wrong?”
“I think so,” I answered. “Let me confirm my schedule.”
I called Jamie, our director of operations at Echelon Front, who quickly
shifted some events in my schedule and freed up the time so I could adapt to
the CEO’s request and engage with the company’s senior leadership team.
“Do you want to talk to the team?” the CEO asked.
I had already put his senior leadership team through a course on Extreme
Ownership and the fundamental principles of combat leadership. They
seemed to have grasped it pretty well. I didn’t need to say more—I needed to
get in and see what was happening and where the issue was.
“No,” I replied, “I have talked enough. I need to see the team in action.
When is the next meeting where the whole group will be together?”
“Well, actually we have a meeting in a few minutes with everyone and
then another one just after lunch,” the CEO replied. “And in between those
two and throughout the afternoon, I meet with the leaders and their team
lead.”
“Busy schedule. How many times a week do you hold those meetings?” I
asked.
“We actually have them every day. There is a lot going on right now and I
have to take ownership—Extreme Ownership—to keep things in check and
on track.”
“Got it,” I replied slowly, as I wondered if I’d just gotten my first
indication of the problem.
We walked down the hallway and into the first meeting. The entire
leadership team was present. I thought the meeting would be a quick, broad
update of what was happening. I was wrong. Each leader gave a full update
of what was happening in his or her department. Minute details were covered
that should have been outside the scope of the executive-level team. As
courses of action were discussed, virtually indistinguishable options were
presented and drawn-out arguments made, and finally, the CEO made
decisions on how the various teams would execute. The meeting lasted nearly
two full hours. If that wasn’t bad enough, as soon as the meeting concluded,
it was followed by another meeting, this time with the engineering team,
which wanted guidance on what manufacturer to use for several parts of the
product. That meeting, which also got bogged down in the details, lasted
another forty-five minutes. Before we knew it, it was lunchtime.
I walked with the CEO back to his office. While we ate, he answered a
plethora of questions that had come through e-mail and made two phone calls
—not to his direct reports but to frontline engineers who explained some
minute elements of the electronic components to be embedded in the new
product.
After these e-mail conversations and phone calls, we went into the
afternoon leadership huddle. I again hoped the meeting would be a quick
confirmation of progress made and any necessary troubleshooting. Once
again, I was wrong.
Like the others before it, this meeting quickly devolved into a detailed
discussion of the minutiae involved in every aspect of the engineering,
manufacturing, marketing, and sale of the product. The CEO drilled down on
each aspect of the planning and execution and made decisions at every level.
As I looked around at the others in the meeting, I expected to see frustration.
But most of the faces didn’t look frustrated. They sat and stared and waited
for their turn to talk and get questions answered by the CEO. There was no
emotion, no frustration or sense of urgency—there was no initiative in the
group.
Two more days went by with much of the same: meetings, meetings,
meetings. Decisions were made, almost every single one of them by the CEO.
Finally, after one meeting ended, the CEO and I walked back to his office.
“Now do you see what I am talking about?” he asked.
“I do indeed,” I responded.
“They aren’t taking any initiative; they aren’t pushing things to happen—
they aren’t taking ownership!” he lamented.
“That was very evident in every one of those meetings,” I noted.
“So. What do I do?” the CEO asked. “How can I get them to take Extreme
Ownership?”
“The answer is simple, but it isn’t easy,” I answered. “You have to give
them ownership.”
“I’m trying to—and I’m taking ownership to set the example—but they
aren’t taking any ownership at all!” the CEO complained.
“Yes. That is exactly what is happening: you are taking ownership—but
you are taking too much ownership,” I told the CEO.
“Too much ownership?” he asked, confused. “You didn’t even tell me that
was possible.”
“It is. And yes, I should have explained that more clearly to you,” I said.
“Leaders can actually take too much ownership. Yes, with Extreme
Ownership you are responsible for everything in your world. But you can’t
make every decision. You have to empower your team to lead, to take
ownership. So you have to give them ownership.
“When a leader tries to own everything—to run every single move their
team makes,” I continued, “it doesn’t work. Maybe it is the desire to make
sure everything goes right. Maybe it is a lack of trust that subordinate leaders
know what to do. Maybe it is ego—leaders want to feel they are the person
who is critical for every little decision. But when a leader takes too much
ownership, there is no ownership left for the team or subordinate leaders to
take. So the team loses initiative. They lose momentum. They won’t make
any decisions. They just sit around and wait to be told what to do.”
Although this was a lot to absorb, I could see it was making complete
sense to the CEO.
“I’ve smothered them, haven’t I?” he said.
“Well, that’s a strong word—that implies death,” I joked. “But
metaphorically, yes. That is a good description of what has happened.”
“So what do I do now?” the CEO asked.
“Give them space. Give them air,” I instructed. “Let them breathe again.
You have to let them make decisions. You have to let them plot the course.
You need to tell them the destination, but you need to let them figure out how
to get there. You have to let them take ownership—real ownership—of their
piece of the mission. Then you will have a team with a culture of true,
effective Extreme Ownership and your performance will skyrocket.”
“That sounds good. But how do I actually make that happen from a
tactical perspective?” the CEO inquired.
“First—let’s cut down all the meetings. That is one of the reasons things
aren’t moving. Instead of finding solutions, right now they just ask you for
the solution. When you do have meetings, stop being the ‘Easy Button,’” I
told him.
“The Easy Button? How am I an Easy Button?” the CEO asked.
“By answering every question, solving every problem, and making every
single decision,” I answered. “Why should your leaders think for themselves
when they can just press the Easy Button and have you think for them and
make the decisions for them as well? And they can blame you if something
goes wrong because you made the decision. When you do all that for them,
they don’t need to think or act, and then they won’t think or act. That’s where
these guys are at.”
“But if I don’t answer their questions—” the CEO began.
I cut him off: “Then they will answer the questions themselves. They will
find solutions for themselves. They will work together to solve problems at
the source, instead of running them up to you.”
“So Decentralized Command is what you are talking about, right?” the
CEO asked.
“Exactly,” I said. “And that is the balance you need to find, the balance
between Decentralized Command and Extreme Ownership. When your team
is too decentralized, no one knows in what direction to go. Too much
ownership, and people won’t act with any level of initiative.”
“And I’ve gone too far in that direction. I’ve taken too much ownership,”
the CEO recognized.
“Yeah,” I replied, “but it’s okay. You are recognizing the dichotomy.
Now, swing the pendulum back—but make sure you don’t go too far. I see
people make that mistake all the time: they overcorrect themselves. So. Make
the move. Cancel some of the meetings. Let the teams and the leaders make
decisions. But don’t completely check out. You don’t need to row the boat—
or even steer it. You just have to make sure it is heading in the right
direction.”
Over the next few weeks, the CEO adjusted his level of control. I had to
restrain him a few times and ease him away from his tendency to run
everything himself. But he did check himself, and the change from his
subordinate leadership—and the rest of the team—came about fairly quickly.
Within a few weeks, their attitude shifted. Leaders at every level of the team
began to lead. They took ownership. Progress picked up and the team got the
product back on target for launch.
“Frogman on the Roof” was the radio call that let others know that SEALs were on the high ground.
Here, Task Unit Bruiser SEALs, from a combined force of Charlie and Delta platoons, maneuver on the
rooftop, keeping as low as possible to minimize exposure to incoming enemy bullets. Marc Lee, at left,
carries his Mark 48 machine gun. At right, in the foreground, is the SEAL operator who was later
gravely wounded, as described in Chapter 1.
(Photo courtesy of Todd Pitman)
CHAPTER 3
Resolute, but Not Overbearing
Leif Babin
* * *
Moments before, I stood with several Charlie Platoon SEALs on the rooftop
of an Iraqi house deep in enemy territory. Dave stood next to me,
communicating with a U.S. Air Force AC-130U “Spooky” gunship that
circled high overhead, wielding both awesome firepower and extraordinary
surveillance capability from thousands of feet in the night sky above. The
first U.S. troops on the ground in this volatile neighborhood, we had patrolled
in on foot several hours earlier in the night and set up a sniper overwatch
position to disrupt any attacks from insurgents on the main force of the
operation: some fifty U.S. tanks and armored vehicles, and nearly one
thousand U.S. and Iraqi troops, led by Task Force Bandit, 1st Battalion, 37th
Armored Regiment, 1st Armored Division. Our SEAL snipers were set up in
shooting positions along with our machine guns and security teams. Dave and
his Marine radioman were on the rooftop with us, relaying updates from the
Spooky gunship overhead.
We watched as the heavy phalanx of American armor—M1A2 Abrams
tanks and M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicles—rolled in our direction, crossing
the railroad bridge over the canal and following the road that led to the
village where we were positioned. To clear the field of view for our snipers,
our explosive ordnance disposal (EOD) bomb technicians and SEAL
breachers put explosive charges in place to knock down several palm trees.
We’d taken great steps to alert Task Force Bandit—the battalion, companies,
and platoons—to the exact location of our sniper overwatch so they wouldn’t
mistake us for enemy forces. We had also marked our position with a pre-
determined signal device. But I hadn’t considered how dangerous it was for
us to set off the explosions to take out the trees.
This was one of the first major operations of the “Seize, Clear, Hold,
Build” strategy to take back Ramadi from the deadly insurgents who
controlled the city, and it was a historic and massive undertaking. It had been
meticulously planned for weeks, examining every realistic contingency we
could imagine. Heavy fighting was expected, as were major U.S. casualties.
The Soldiers manning the tanks were already on edge, expecting attack as
they maneuvered into enemy territory. Though the key leaders had been
briefed on the specific building where we planned to set up our overwatch
position, that information didn’t always make it down to the forward troops
on the front lines of the operation. And even if the word was passed to the
frontline troops, understanding locations on the battle map and correlating
this with the actual street and buildings seen from the ground level proved
difficult at best. I had radioed to Jocko, who was co-located with the Army
battalion at the U.S. staging point across the bridge, that we would be
conducting a “controlled detonation”: a non-combat explosion of demolition
charges that we’d set ourselves. The battalion acknowledged via radio they
understood. But again, that didn’t guarantee that the word was passed to the
tank crews or that they fully processed what that meant. The tankers had their
own challenges and risks to confront: significant threats from massive IEDs
buried in the road and enemy attacks with machine guns and RPG-7 rockets.
When our controlled detonations shattered the quiet and the blasts of fire
momentarily lit up the dark, one of the Abrams tank commanders must have
thought it was an enemy attack. Seeing our silhouettes on the rooftop and
thinking we were insurgent fighters, he lit us up with a burst from his heavy
machine gun. We had been casually peering over the roof wall, watching the
armored vehicles crawl toward us on their tracks, when the burst of .50-
caliber rounds cracked just over our heads. That sent us all diving to the deck
to seek cover.
Every nanosecond counted as I reached into my gear for my radio.
Our typical radio procedures were for me to communicate directly to
Jocko, who would then pass the word to the battalion staff he was standing
next to, who would relay to their company, who would relay to the platoon in
whose unit the tank belonged. But there was no time for that now. Every
moment was crucial. I needed to speak directly to that tank immediately, or
the next burst of .50-caliber machine gun rounds might chew us to bits—
though the .50-cal was preferable to a massive main gun round from the
tank’s 120mm smoothbore cannon, which could be next.
Quickly, I switched my radio channel dial to the tank’s company net and
keyed up. “Cease fire, cease fire,” I said. “You are shooting at friendlies.”
Receipt of the radio transmission was acknowledged. The shooting
stopped.
That was a close one, I thought. I wasn’t angry, but more concerned with
the recognition of how easily friendly fire could happen, despite our
extensive efforts to mitigate the risk of blue-on-blue.
The ability to switch my radio to a different net and talk directly to the
tank from which we were taking fire may well have saved us. It was a
mission-critical skill upon which I depended during nearly every combat
operation, as did the other leaders in Charlie Platoon and Task Unit Bruiser.
Yet, when we had first arrived in Ramadi, as SEALs, we didn’t understand
the U.S. Army and Marine Corps radio networks and were unable to directly
communicate with them via radio.
* * *
In the SEAL Teams, we had a different culture, different tactics, and different
gear from our U.S. Army and Marine Corps brethren. Nowhere was that more
apparent than in our radio communications equipment. They used an entirely
different system. In order for us to talk to them, we needed to learn how to
use their system. Typically, in a SEAL platoon, the radioman is the
communications expert who programs the radios and troubleshoots any issues
for everyone else in the platoon. We came to depend on our SEAL radioman
for everything involving radios. On previous deployments, if you had a
problem with a radio, you just popped it out of your gear and tossed it to the
radioman to fix or swap out for a new one. Additionally, the leader depended
upon the SEAL radioman for all communications back to the tactical
operations center and all units outside of the SEAL squad or platoon. But in
Ramadi, we often broke up into small units and there weren’t enough SEAL
radiomen to go around. You might very well find yourself serving as the
radioman of an element when the actual SEAL radiomen were in a different
element or squad in a separate building or on a different operation altogether.
As task unit commander and a prior SEAL radioman in his enlisted days,
Jocko understood that each member of Task Unit Bruiser had to be
competent with our radios. He knew we all individually needed to learn how
to program our radios so any one of us could talk directly to the Soldiers and
Marines we fought alongside and depended on for help when we found
ourselves in a jam. It was a skill critical to saving lives on the battlefield.
“Everybody make sure you know how to program your radios,” Jocko
commanded during an early brief in the Charlie Platoon mission planning
space. Even among SEALs, Jocko was a big, mean-looking, and intimidating
guy. You might think that whatever Jocko said, we were going to do it. If not
because we feared his wrath, because we respected his leadership and
experience.
But we didn’t learn how to program our radios. At least, most of us didn’t.
It wasn’t that we didn’t think it was important or that we didn’t respect Jocko.
We did. But we simply were overtasked, and in the hectic schedule, other
pressing issues always took precedence. Jocko’s order to learn how to
program our radios slipped to the back burner. Most of us never got around to
it.
A few days after Jocko’s decree that we had to learn to program our
radios, Task Unit Bruiser put together a plan and received approval to launch
on a nighttime raid to capture or kill the leaders of an Iraqi insurgent terrorist
cell responsible for multiple deadly attacks on U.S. and Iraqi troops in
Ramadi. Charlie Platoon had the lead and came up with a plan. Just as we did
prior to every operation, we gathered the troops for the mission brief, known
as an “operation order,” or OPORD. The key leaders stood up and presented
their respective parts of the plan. We talked through the details and answered
remaining questions.
As we were wrapping up the OPORD, Jocko stood up and made some
final strategic comments. Finally, he asked a question that caught us red-
handed.
“Does everyone know how to program their radios?” Jocko asked. There
were blank stares. But nobody had the courage to say, “No.”
I thought: We didn’t have time. We didn’t make the time.
But Jocko didn’t need to hear an answer. No doubt he could tell from the
blank stares and lack of response that most of the SEAL operators in the
room, about to launch on this combat operation, didn’t know how to program
their radios themselves.
Jocko looked at one of the SEAL operators, a new guy in the platoon,
whom we called “Biff” after the character from the movie Back to the Future.
“Biff, let me see your radio,” Jocko said bluntly. Biff quickly complied,
unscrewed the connector to his headset, unclipped the fast-tech fastener,
pulled the radio from his gear, and handed it to Jocko. There was a function
on the radio that would clear its memory, requiring it to be reprogrammed.
Jocko cleared the radio and handed it back to Biff.
“Reprogram that,” Jocko directed.
Biff stared back blankly. He didn’t know how to reprogram his radio. It
was an uncomfortable place to be, called out in front of everyone in our
SEAL platoon and task unit, having failed to comply with Jocko’s order. But
he wasn’t alone, as most of us were in the same boat.
Jocko wasn’t angry. He understood that many of us in the room hadn’t
learned to program our radios, not through willful disobedience but because
we hadn’t fully understood its importance. Since we didn’t clearly understand
the importance, we didn’t make the time to learn. Yet Jocko wasn’t backing
down. He didn’t let it go. Jocko held the line, enforced the standard. Jocko
knew that when we were out on the battlefield, in smaller elements beyond
the reach of help or support, we had to be able to operate the radios ourselves.
With Decentralized Command, it was crucial that leaders at every level be
fully self-reliant, ready to step up and execute to accomplish the mission.
Turning to the Charlie Platoon’s senior SEAL radioman, he said: “Teach
Biff how to reprogram his radio.”
To the rest of us in the platoon, Jocko added: “Everybody else make sure
you know how to program your radios. It could save your life. And if you
don’t know how to program them by the next mission, you’re not going
outside the wire.”
By the next combat operation, everyone in the platoon—every SEAL in
Task Unit Bruiser—knew how to program their radios; we had practiced it
multiple times. The boss had called us all out and made it clear that he fully
expected his order to be carried out, no exceptions.
For leaders, it is often a struggle to know when and where to hold the line.
In the SEAL Teams, just as in any organization, leaders who constantly crack
the whip on their team and verbally berate their people over trivial issues are
despised, not respected. Those leaders are ineffective and few will follow
them when it matters. A leader cannot be overbearing. But the dichotomy
here is that a leader cannot be too lenient and let things slide when the safety,
mission success, and long-term good of the team are at stake.
Had Jocko not called us out to prove we could program our own radios,
we would never have done it. It is quite likely that our inability to do so
would have cost lives. I certainly would never have been fully competent in
talking directly to Soldiers and Marines on their company and platoon radio
nets. Had Jocko not done this, would he truly have been taking care of the
SEAL operators in the task unit? The answer is most certainly not. But Jocko
understood that taking care of your people means looking out for their long-
term good and the long-term good of the strategic mission. There are some
standards that simply cannot be compromised.
Going forward, everyone in Task Unit Bruiser was competent in
programming and utilizing their personal radios. As non-radiomen, we also
practiced utilizing the larger radios that the radiomen carried, in the event we
needed them—which happened frequently. As other SEALs visited Camp
Ramadi and joined our platoon and task unit as “strap hangers” on combat
operations, one of the very first things we taught them was how to program
their own radios and communicate directly with Army and Marine Corps
units. Jocko had held the line. As a result, we were prepared for the realities
of the battlefield, able to mitigate risk and operate most effectively to
accomplish our mission.
As I reflected upon Jocko’s demonstration of a leader’s responsibility to
ensure standards are maintained, I thought about the times in my career when
I failed to do so. As a young leader, I knew there were times we needed to
improve our performance, do another run-through in the kill house (where we
practiced close-quarters combat), or add an additional rehearsal to ensure we
were fully prepared. Yet in those moments, I sometimes hadn’t held the line;
I hadn’t pushed the team hard enough. Any additional work assigned to the
team was going to get pushback and generate complaints. And there were
times when I let things slide, confusing the idea of “taking care of your
people” with allowing them not to work as hard. But in the end, that resulted
in mediocre performance. And the team never got better, never held each
other accountable. This was a failure of leadership—my leadership.
I also recognized the dichotomy: there were other times when I was
overbearing. I insisted on doing things a certain way, because it was my way,
or harped on trivial matters that were strategically unimportant, thinking I
was doing right by holding the line. It caused unnecessary friction, stifled
growth, and inhibited junior leaders on the team from stepping up. It
prevented us from functioning properly with effective Decentralized
Command.
I had seen and worked for numerous leaders throughout my Navy career
who had been overbearing, and it wasn’t the way I wanted to lead. Some of
them imposed harsh discipline, screamed at their people, and crushed the
morale of the team. No one wanted to follow them. They might accomplish
an immediate task, but in the long run, the team’s growth was smothered.
Often, their negative example stood starkly in my mind: I never want to be a
leader like that.
* * *
But there are times when every leader must give a little and allow the team
some room to maneuver. In 2005, when we formed up Task Unit Bruiser and
started training, we were determined to get to Iraq and get in the fight. We
knew we would be working with large numbers of U.S. Soldiers and Marines
—infantry, armor, and airborne units. They all had strict protocols for their
uniforms and combat gear. Soldiers wore their official unit patch and the
American flag. Marines wore the American flag and their eagle, globe, and
anchor emblem, the symbol of the Marine Corps. But in the SEAL Teams,
SEAL operators generally wore whatever the hell they wanted. Often, this
was a mix of different uniforms and gear. Early SEALs in Vietnam had worn
blue jeans and civilian “duck hunter” camouflage on combat operations. And
a lot of SEALs carried on the tradition of dressing “unconventionally.”
Beyond the uniform styles that made us look different from other military
units, many SEALs had custom Velcro patches made for our gear. Each
SEAL platoon would design a logo and have a patch made for the platoon. In
Task Unit Bruiser, Delta Platoon had a “bone frog” design with a Delta
triangle and frog skeleton. Charlie Platoon had utilized the Cadillac logo with
a “3” and a “C” for “SEAL Team 3” and “Charlie Platoon.” Beyond unit
patches, some of us wore other patches such as the traditional first U.S. Navy
jack—a flag flown for the jack staff of U.S. Navy vessels—with thirteen
stripes, a rattlesnake, and the words “Don’t Tread on Me,” adopted from the
Gadsden flag of the American Revolution. SEALs would often design their
own patches with whatever logo they thought was cool, a line or a movie
quote they found funny. As we kicked off our training cycle in Task Unit
Bruiser, one popular patch was a “Fun Meter,” with the meter arrow buried in
the red, meaning: “The fun meter was pegged.” Several SEALs had patches
that read, “More Cowbell,” inspired by the popular Saturday Night Live Will
Ferrell skit of the band, Blue Oyster Cult. Other patches were even less
professional and far more crude.
I knew all the patches were unprofessional. I knew that some of the
patches were pretty offensive and that as the platoon commander, I should
probably order my guys to get rid of their patches. But I also thought they
were funny, and I didn’t fully understand the problems something as simple
as patches could cause for us once deployed alongside Army and Marine
Corps units. I believed that removing the patches would hurt morale and
make me look overly harsh. So I let it go.
Jocko recognized that someone who saw these crude and unprofessional
patches and took them out of context might take offense, which would cause
frictions that might escalate into something serious. Not that Jocko was some
virtue-signaling angel. I knew he thought many of the patches were funny.
But he also knew that if there was even a chance that the patches might cause
issues for us, it wasn’t worth the risk. It could harm our task unit’s chances of
being selected to deploy to Iraq. When we did deploy to Iraq, as we hoped to
do, the U.S. Army and Marine units we worked alongside would initially
judge us by our appearance. They took pride in squared-away uniforms as a
testament to good order and discipline. With our random, unprofessional
patches, the first impression the Soldiers and Marines would have of Task
Unit Bruiser wouldn’t be good. Jocko knew it was important and had no
problem dropping the hammer on patches.
“Get rid of the patches,” Jocko told me. I told him I would make it
happen.
Then he addressed the issue to all Task Unit Bruiser personnel.
Jocko declared: “No more patches in Task Unit Bruiser. The patches
many of you have been wearing are unprofessional. I get that they are funny.
But funny patches won’t help us build strong relationships with the
conventional forces we will be serving alongside. They will inhibit our ability
to operate in Army and Marine battlespace. They will prevent us from getting
after it to close with and destroy the enemy.
“No patches,” he repeated. “None. Everybody clear?” The only exception
was the standard American flag patch we were authorized to wear. Jocko’s
senior enlisted advisor, our task unit senior chief, ensured the boss’s order
was enforced without exception.
“Roger,” we acknowledged, in the military lingo for “understood.” The
task unit—particularly Charlie Platoon—wasn’t happy about it, but everyone
understood and would comply. The new standard had been set, the line in the
sand drawn. All patches were removed.
But as the months wore on and Task Unit Bruiser was selected to deploy
to Iraq, I privately felt that Task Unit Bruiser was a historic unit destined for
great things on the battlefield, and we needed to have an official unit patch.
On liberty one day, when we were out surfing and on a rare occasion away
from Jocko, I talked it over with my close friend, the Delta Platoon
commander, Seth Stone.
“Bro, we need a unit patch for Task Unit Bruiser,” I said. “I know Jocko
said no patches. But I think we should design one and have it made for
everybody.”
“Agreed,” Seth replied. We both loved and admired Jocko. We respected
his leadership. We rarely disagreed with him on anything, large or small. But
we knew that having a task unit patch was important for unit cohesion. We
knew there was a line between patches that were offensive and a unit patch
with a logo that would represent the task unit.
“We will have to do it in secret,” I said. “And make sure that Jocko
doesn’t see them.”
“Let’s do it,” Seth agreed.
Later, back at my house, Seth and I designed two different patches to be
worn on the shoulder of each operator. Both patches were circular and desert
tan with “Task Unit Bruiser” printed across the top. Seth decorated one patch
with a cow skull with downturned horns, and the words “Big Balls in
Cowtown” across the bottom. Being from Texas, Seth and I were big fans of
the classic country-western song by Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys, “Big
Ball’s in Cowtown.” The pun seemed most appropriate, as we had just
learned we were deploying to Ramadi. I designed another patch with Lord
Humungus, the muscle-bound leader of the postapocalyptic antagonists from
the Mad Max movie sequel The Road Warrior, wearing a hockey mask and
wielding a large-caliber handgun. At the base of the patch, I used the phrase
“The Ayatollahs of Rock N Rolla,” borrowing the title bestowed upon Lord
Humungus in the movie.
With only a couple of weeks left prior to deployment, I hurriedly found a
shop that could sew our designs, create the patches, and add the Velcro
backing necessary for easy application and removal from our working
combat uniforms. The patches arrived only days before we departed for Iraq.
I threw the box, unopened, into one of my kit bags and packed them on the
pallet just before it was loaded on the aircraft that would take us overseas.
Once we arrived in Ramadi, I discreetly removed the box without Jocko’s
knowledge and pulled Seth aside. We opened the box and pulled out enough
patches for each of the members of our platoons. In secret, we distributed the
patches to everyone in Task Unit Bruiser, except for Jocko and his immediate
headquarters staff.
While on base, or on combat operations within visual range of Jocko and
his senior enlisted advisor, no one wore patches other than our standard
American flag patch. But each of the SEAL operators in Charlie and Delta
Platoons, along with our EOD bomb technicians, kept the patches hidden
inside the cargo pocket on the shoulder of our combat uniforms. For the
operations where Jocko stayed back to man the TOC, as our convoy of
Humvees departed the base, we gave a call over the intersquad radio:
“Patches on.” Each operator pulled his Task Unit Bruiser patch out of his
cargo pocket and slapped it onto the Velcro on the outside of his uniform. We
were now ready to do battle as Task Unit Bruiser and close with and destroy
the enemy.
But as with any blatant violation of the rules, it was only a matter of time
before we were busted. That fateful day happened on one of the first major
operations that Task Unit Bruiser participated in. An embedded civilian
journalist with the U.S. Army unit we were working alongside took some
photos of Task Unit Bruiser SEALs in action. The photos were shared with
their higher headquarters staff and eventually shared with Jocko and his
senior enlisted advisor. In the photos the Task Unit Bruiser patch could
clearly be seen on the shoulders of several of our SEALs.
The senior enlisted advisor blew up about it and prepared to drop the
hammer on us. He was just trying to do his job and enforce Jocko’s order. I
expected to feel the wrath of Jocko, and since I had orchestrated the violation,
I planned to fully own the brunt of the punishment.
But a day passed. And then another day. Jocko didn’t mention it. I was
surprised. Jocko knew we had violated his order—willful disobedience. But
in this case, Jocko didn’t hold the line and enforce the standard he had set. He
let it go.
As I thought about why he hadn’t confronted me, his reason became clear,
and later, when we came home from deployment, he confirmed my thoughts.
Jocko had recognized that the task unit patches strengthened our unit
cohesion—they were a source of pride. He also knew that we had gotten rid
of all the other patches; no one was still wearing the assortment of offensive
and unprofessional patches he had seen stateside. Instead, everyone wore the
same uniformed Task Unit Bruiser patch, all desert tan that matched our
uniforms. He knew that if we were hiding the patches from him, we would
hide the patches from other U.S. units on the base.
While Jocko never told us we were cleared to wear the patches, he
allowed us to bend the rules. And since the patches were unique and matched
our reputation on the battlefield, rather than alienate us from the Soldiers and
Marines, it cemented in their minds that we were a cohesive unit. At the end
of our deployment, we gave several Task Unit Bruiser patches to key Army
and Marine leaders with whom we worked closely, including the U.S. Army
colonel in charge of the entire brigade combat team.
Witnessing how Jocko held the line and enforced the standard to ensure
we knew how to program our radios, yet allowed some slack when it came to
us wearing patches, set a powerful example of how to balance the dichotomy.
There is a time to stand firm and enforce rules and there is a time to give
ground and allow the rules to bend. Finding that balance is critical for leaders
to get maximum effectiveness from their team.
Principle
Leaders, on the one hand, cannot be too lenient. But on the other hand, they
cannot become overbearing. They must set high standards and drive the team
to achieve those standards, but they cannot be domineering or inflexible on
matters of little strategic importance. To find this balance, leaders must
carefully evaluate when and where to hold the line and when to allow some
slack. They must determine when to listen to subordinate leaders and allow
them ownership, making adjustments for their concerns and needs.
Some have used the term “leadership capital” as a means to understand
the careful analysis required for a leader to balance this dichotomy.
Leadership capital is the recognition that there is a finite amount of power
that any leader possesses. It can be expended foolishly, by leaders who harp
on matters that are trivial and strategically unimportant. Such capital is
acquired slowly over time through building trust and confidence with the
team by demonstrating that the leader has the long-term good of the team and
the mission in mind. Prioritizing those areas where standards cannot be
compromised and holding the line there while allowing for some slack in
other, less critical areas is a wise use of leadership capital.
Just as we wrote in Extreme Ownership, chapter 8, “Decentralized
Command,” the most important explanation a leader can give to the team is
“why?” Particularly when a leader must hold the line and enforce standards,
it must always be done with the explanation of why it is important, why it
will help accomplish the mission, and what the consequences are for failing
to do so. It must never be done with the attitude of “because I said so.” To do
so will result in far more pushback and more difficulty in getting the team to
achieve the standards you are trying to enforce. As a leader, you have to
balance the dichotomy, to be resolute where it matters but never overbearing;
never inflexible and uncompromising on matters of little importance to the
overall good of the team and the strategic mission.
Application to Business
“I’ve read a lot about Patton,” the executive vice president said with pride,
referring to General George S. Patton Jr., the famous U.S. Army general
whose exploits in World World II were legendary. “I love that you referenced
Patton in your presentation. I want exactly the kind of disciplined
organization around here that Patton expected. We need people who carry out
orders, not question them.”
I could tell right away that the executive vice president (EVP) had no
previous military experience. He clearly misunderstood how effective leaders
in the military lead their teams. It was not through rigid authoritarianism: Do
this because I said so, or you’ll be punished. Sure, there were those in the
military who tried to lead like this. But it was never effective.
I sat in a conference room with the EVP to learn more about him and his
role in the company. As part of our Echelon Front leadership assessment for
the company’s Leadership Development and Alignment Program, such one-
on-one meetings were integral to understanding the true challenges and
frictions within the organization among leaders, departments, teams, and
strategies. For our Echelon Front team, this was critical knowledge that
allowed us to tailor our leadership program to address these challenges and
implement leadership solutions to get the problems solved.
The EVP’s company had a long history of quality and service. But
recently the company’s executive team had set its horizons for expansion
beyond the regionally focused area that had traditionally been their market.
To do this, the company, which had previously relied on the extensive
experience and on-the-job training of its frontline leaders, now had to lay
down standard operating procedures to try to get each of its teams and each
of its divisions operating on the same page.
The EVP had sat through the opening leadership presentation I delivered.
During the question-and-answer session following my brief, I had referenced
General Patton. That had clearly resonated with the EVP.
“Discipline equals freedom,” the EVP said, quoting Jocko’s mantra,
which we had just covered in the training session. “I’ve been trying to instill
discipline in our team here. We need a lot more of it.”
“In what way?” I asked, interested to hear more.
“Cell phones,” the EVP declared. “It burns me up every time we call a
meeting, somebody will inevitably be on their phone. Here I am, up in front
of the room trying to put out some critical information, and I see somebody
on their phone answering an e-mail. Or somebody steps out of the room to
take a phone call as I’m trying to impart key information.
“They even do it to our CEO,” the EVP added, incredulous at such
behavior.
“That can be frustrating,” I replied. “We see it all the time with our work
at Echelon Front. But obviously there are important things that come up that
need immediate attention for the good of the company.”
“Not in my meetings,” the EVP boasted. “I’ve made it clear to every one
of our department leaders and supervisors: there are no cell phones in my
meetings whatsoever.”
“How do you enforce that?” I asked.
“Easy,” the EVP said. “Before every meeting, I make each of them pull
their cell phones out of their pockets and physically turn them off. Then, they
have to hold up their phone and show me it is fully powered down. I won’t
start the meeting until I see that everyone has complied.”
The EVP was smug, clearly proud that he was holding the line,
uncompromising in this effort, and enforcing a strict standard on the team.
“What has the team’s reaction to this been?” I inquired.
“They gripe about it, of course,” he answered. “But I’m going to keep
holding the line, just like Patton would do.”
“How important are these meetings?” I asked.
“Oh, they’re important,” the EVP insisted. “I’m putting out the new
standard operating procedures that everyone should now be following. That
direction came straight from the CEO, and I’m going to get this implemented
no matter how much they resist. Besides, what could be so important that
they can’t shut off their phones for an hour or two to focus on what I need to
discuss with them?”
“Well, I can think of a few things that may take precedence,” I said. “How
about an immediate pressing issue with a major customer that needs quick
resolution to preserve the relationship so you don’t lose a huge contract? Or a
serious quality issue that might result in angry clients and bad press coverage
that impacts your market growth? Or a major safety incident that results in
serious injury or death?”
The EVP nodded, agreeing that any of those would take precedence over
his meeting. “Look,” he said. “I’m just trying to enforce discipline on the
team. Like Patton would do—like you and Jocko talk about. If we are
disciplined in the small things, won’t that translate to discipline in the bigger
things?”
“Discipline even in the small things is important,” I said. “But as a leader,
you need to carefully balance the dichotomy between these two opposing
forces: understanding where to stand firm and where to bend. You need to
carefully prioritize where you hold the line and enforce standards.
“I’m sure you’ve heard the term ‘leadership capital’ before,” I continued.
“As a leader, you only have so much authority that you can spend, and you
need to choose wisely where you apply it. It seems to me you are expending a
great deal of your leadership capital on cell phones when it might be much
better utilized elsewhere.
“You mentioned there is resistance to the new standard operating
procedures,” I observed. “Can you tell me more about that?”
“I’m meeting a lot of resistance,” he admitted. “A lot of our leaders have
their own particular way of doing things. And they don’t want to change.”
“Well, that’s a pretty standard human response,” I said. “People want to
keep doing what they have always done. It’s up to you to help them
understand why they need to change—why they need to implement
standardized procedures. If they understand how it will benefit them
personally, how it will benefit their team, and benefit the overall mission,
they are far more likely to embrace the change.”
“Why is it up to me?” the EVP inquired. “It’s their problem. They need to
get on board. I’ve told them over and over again why we need to do this.
Frankly, I’m sick and tired of trying to explain it to them. We just need to
start holding the line and enforcing standards: implement the new procedures,
or else.”
To me, it was perfectly clear. The EVP’s attitude was the major reason
most of the company’s leaders were pushing back and refusing to implement
the new standardized procedures. He had unwisely expended his leadership
capital enforcing things such as the “no cell phone” policy in his meetings,
with no strategic impact. Meanwhile, he had little leadership capital left to
implement the new standardized procedures, which would have major
strategic impact on the company’s success or failure.
“It’s great that you’ve read some military history,” I said. “But I think you
might have a misunderstanding of how leadership in the military actually
works. That stuff you have seen in movies and television shows about
military personnel who blindly carry out orders—that isn’t true. Military
personnel are not terminator robots that just mindlessly follow instruction,
regardless of the outcome. They are thinking individuals who need to
understand why they are doing what they are doing.”
“But in the military, don’t you have to follow orders?” the EVP asked.
“Even in the military, if you give someone an order that they disagree
with, or don’t believe in, where the risk of death or horrible injury to the team
is high, you don’t think you’ll get any pushback on that?” I asked. “Of course
the team will push back. They may even defy orders or refuse to execute,
even if it means a court-martial.
“The best military leaders,” I continued, “like the best business leaders,
take the time to explain ‘why’ so that the team understands it. They don’t
force things down the throats of their subordinates. And they also don’t sweat
the small stuff. That way, when they explain the importance of something
that really matters, it doesn’t get lost on the troops. Then, the troops are far
more likely to execute what the leader puts forth.”
The EVP nodded, beginning to understand that in order to get the team on
board with the new standardized process, he needed to adjust his tactics.
“In terms of strategic importance to the company,” I asked the EVP,
“what is more important? That your leaders not access their cell phones
during meetings? Or that your leaders get on board with the new standardized
process and implement it within their teams?”
“The standardized procedures, of course,” the EVP admitted. “It’s far
more important strategically that our leaders implement the new process.”
“Roger that,” I said. “Then you need to be more discerning in expending
your leadership capital. Don’t waste it on the ‘no cell phone’ policy. That’s
hurting your ability to implement the important stuff.
“This too is a dichotomy,” I explained. “You can’t have everyone on their
cell phones throughout an important meeting. So make it clear that cell
phones are allowed, but only for the most crucially important matters.”
“But won’t that make me look weak?” the EVP asked. I could tell he was
probably thinking of Patton again.
“Actually,” I said, “it will make you look stronger. It shows that you
understand what is strategically important—where to hold the line, and where
to be flexible and give some leeway to your leaders. That will increase your
leadership capital with the department leaders you are relying on to
implement the new procedures.”
Now, the EVP began to see how carefully he needed to evaluate when and
where to hold firm on standards and where to give. He began to understand
that it was his job as a leader not to say “Do it my way or suffer the
consequences” but to explain. Most importantly, he now saw the value of
balancing the dichotomy, to be resolute but not overbearing.
“REDBULL SIX,” the call sign for Naval Special Warfare Task Unit Ramadi Commander Jocko
Willink, provides command and control for his SEALs and the Iraqi soldiers for whom they served as
combat advisors during a large-scale cordon and search operation with Task Force Red Currahee (1st
Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment of the U.S. Army’s 101st Airborne Division) in the
Malaab District of eastern Ramadi. Such combat operations were vastly different than what SEALs had
trained for, but were essential operations to the counterinsurgency mission in Ramadi.
(Photo courtesy of Todd Pitman)
CHAPTER 4
When to Mentor, When to Fire
Jocko Willink
* * *
In Ramadi, in the toughest combat situations I could have envisioned for us,
Task Unit Bruiser performed as an exceptional team. The extensive training,
mentorship, and guidance that had been passed on was critical to this. But our
exceptional performance was also a function of making the tough decisions to
let underperformers go. But resorting to the extreme of firing someone was
the exception. On the other side of this dichotomy were the other four new
guys in Charlie Platoon who excelled under the mentorship, coaching, and
special effort made by the platoon leadership and experienced SEALs. While
each new guy struggled at times, all of them, with the exception of Rock, got
up to speed. Charlie Platoon’s veteran SEALs worked with them, trained with
them, counseled them, and drove them to become upstanding members of
Charlie Platoon and of the SEAL Teams. And that attitude—of doing
everything you can to help your subordinates, peers, and leaders be the best
they can possibly be—was critical to the success of Charlie Platoon and Task
Unit Bruiser.
But that attitude had to be balanced by knowing when we as leaders had
done everything we could to help an individual get up to speed, but the
individual still fell short and the decision had to be made to let him go.
Principle
Most underperformers don’t need to be fired, they need to be led. But once
every effort has been made to help an underperformer improve and all efforts
have failed, a leader has to make the tough call to let that person go. This is
the duty and responsibility of every leader.
Leaders are responsible for the output of the individuals on their team.
The goal of any leader is to get the most out of every individual—to push
each individual to reach his or her maximum potential so that the team itself
can reach its maximum potential. Conversely, leaders must also understand
that human beings have limitations; not every person on a team will be suited
for a particular job. Some people might need a less technical position. Some
people can’t handle stress. Some might not work well with others. Some
might lack the creativity to come up with new ideas or solve problems. This
doesn’t mean they are worthless—it just means that the leader needs to utilize
them in a position where their strengths are fully capitalized. Once again, the
leader is still trying to maximize the potential of every individual.
Occasionally, there are people who simply cannot perform to the required
level in any capacity. Once a leader has exhausted remedial measures through
coaching, mentoring, and counseling, the leader then must make the tough
call: remove that individual from the team. The dichotomy in this situation is
balancing between taking care of individuals by keeping them around even if
they lack the skill set to do the job properly and protecting the team by
removing people from positions where they negatively impact the team and
the mission. A leader must be loyal to his individual team members and take
care of them, but at the same time he must be loyal to the team itself and
ensure that every member of the team has a net positive impact and doesn’t
detract from mission execution.
One thing that causes problems with this dichotomy is the idea of Extreme
Ownership. With Extreme Ownership we say, “No bad teams, only bad
leaders.” When leaders try to live by that mantra, it usually has a positive
outcome. When a leader has a substandard individual on the team, that leader
takes ownership of the individual and ensures that the individual gets the
training, coaching, and mentoring needed to get up to speed. That personal
investment usually pays dividends: the substandard individual improves and
becomes a solid contributor to the team.
But sometimes the substandard individual doesn’t improve; sometimes he
or she can’t improve. Sometimes the individual simply lacks the necessary
skills, capacity, or attitude to do a job. So the leader takes ownership of it and
continues to invest time, energy, and money into the individual—but the
individual’s capabilities still don’t improve. As the leader continues investing
time and resources into one individual, other members of the team and other
priorities are neglected and the team can begin to falter. Also, as other team
members see a leader pouring resources into one nonperforming individual,
the team might question the leader’s judgment.
This is when leaders must bring their efforts into balance. Instead of
focusing on one individual, leaders must remember that there is a team—and
that the performance of the team trumps the performance of a single
individual. Instead of continuing to invest in one subpar performer, once a
concerted effort has been made to coach and train that individual to no avail,
the leader must remove the individual. It can be one of the hardest decisions a
leader has to make, but it is the right one.
We are often asked, “When is the right time to fire someone?” Some
leaders are too quick to pull the trigger and fire people without giving them
the right guidance and enough opportunity to gain competency. Other leaders
wait to let someone go even after the individual has shown no potential at
becoming competent and is negatively impacting the team. The answer is
this: When a leader has done everything possible to get an individual up to
speed without seeing results, the time has come to let that individual go.
Don’t be too quick to fire—but don’t wait too long. Find the balance and hold
the line.
Application to Business
“The Tower Two super just doesn’t seem to know how to get things done.
They are lagging behind Tower One by six days right now,” the project
manager told me and the regional vice president, referring to the
superintendent in charge of one of two condominium towers they were
building.
“Six days behind?” the VP asked. “Doesn’t that throw everything off
track?”
“It absolutely does,” the project manager answered. “We are having to
repeat the same events instead of getting them done at once; things like
concrete pours and crane movements—it costs us time and money!”
“That isn’t good,” the VP said. “This is the only project I’m a part of that
is off schedule.”
“Well … I’m doing the best I can with what I’ve got,” said the project
manager. “The Tower Two super just isn’t getting it done.”
I looked at the VP and gave him a nod. I could tell he was thinking what I
was thinking. We had already put this whole team through a course on
Extreme Ownership, yet this project manager was casting blame and making
excuses. The VP wasn’t having any of that.
“Whose fault is it that the Tower Two super isn’t getting it done?” the VP
asked.
Immediately, the project manager recognized what was being implied.
The look on his face changed and he started shaking his head.
“How can it be my fault?” he asked. “He’s the one running Tower Two,
not me.”
“Well, what are you getting paid for, then?” the VP asked, going strong—
maybe a little too strong—at the project manager. The project manager didn’t
answer. The VP backed off.
“I mean, seriously, you are the project manager,” the VP continued.
“Tower Two is part of this project. If the Tower Two super isn’t doing his
job, who is supposed to fix him?”
“I’ve been trying to fix him,” the project manager countered. “But like I
said, he just doesn’t seem to get it.”
“Okay then,” I interjected. “If he truly doesn’t get it, then why is he still in
that position? If I had a platoon commander or a squad leader who was
failing repeatedly, they would be out of a job.”
“That’s easier said than done,” the project manager insisted. “This job has
a lot of baggage behind it. We have had to clean up a lot of stuff from the
architects and the engineers. This isn’t an easy job—and he has a lot of
knowledge that any other super wouldn’t have if we brought someone new on
board. That knowledge is critical to this project.”
“Well, this clearly isn’t working,” said the VP.
“Alright, alright,” the project manager protested. “Let me talk to him
some more.”
“While you are talking, you better prepare for action,” I said, thinking that
this might require the removal of the superintendent from Tower Two.
“I’m prepared,” the project manager said.
“No. Beyond you being prepared. We need to be legally prepared,” the VP
said.
“What do you mean?” he asked.
“Well, let’s look at the situation,” I told him. “You say you have talked to
him already. That obviously isn’t working. Now, maybe you need to be more
direct with him. Tell him exactly where he is failing and what he needs to do
to improve. You also need to give him warning that the next time you talk to
him about this, you are putting it in writing. And then if he doesn’t fix
himself, you need to actually put it in writing. The company must prepare to
take action—to terminate him—if he doesn’t improve. And all indicators are
that he won’t improve. So you need to prepare the situation so that he can be
terminated without legal blowback.”
“But what if he does improve?” the project manager asked, clearly fearful
of my guidance.
“If he does improve, that’s great,” I said. “Problem solved. We can move
on. No factor. But if he doesn’t, then you’ll be ready.”
“But won’t it ruin his attitude if I write him up?” the project manager
asked.
“It might. But think about where we’re at,” I countered. “You and I had
this discussion early on—you put him through an escalation of counseling.
You started with a friendly conversation. He didn’t change. You asked how
you could help him change. He didn’t change. You told him directly what he
needed to change. He didn’t change. You gave him plenty of opportunity, and
so far, he has made no improvement.
“It’s clear you’ve made an effort not to put too much pressure on him or
be too negative,” I continued. “It simply hasn’t been effective. The next step
in the escalation is to tell him he is going to be written up, which is a final
plea for him to fix himself. But if he doesn’t, you have to move further up the
escalation of counseling—you will need to write him up. And of course, there
is a chance that it will help him. It might make him finally realize how
serious you are and how serious the situation is. You owe it to him to make
clear where his deficiencies are and to help him improve. If that happens and
he gets his act together, great. But if that doesn’t happen, you need to be
ready to act accordingly. Having a documented formal counseling will make
termination easier. Plus, the work you have done to help him, to coach him,
to mentor him, and to make clear that his performance is substandard and
must improve, is ultimately to his benefit.”
I explained that one of the things that makes it so hard to fire someone is
the leader’s knowledge that they have not done everything to actually lead a
poor performer. As leaders, we feel bad when we haven’t done enough: We
haven’t trained. We haven’t mentored. We haven’t led. And that makes us
feel guilty—and rightly so.
“If you have done all you can as a leader,” I said, “if you have given him
direct feedback on his deficiencies, coached and mentored him, and given
him ample opportunity to correct himself, then getting rid of a subpar
performer isn’t just the right thing to do, it’s the only thing to do. Anything
less is letting down the team. Does that make sense?”
“It does make sense, but it doesn’t solve the other problem at all,” the
project manager said.
“What problem is that?” the VP interjected.
“The problem of replacing him. This is a complex job. And like I said,
there are all kinds of issues,” answered the project manager. “If I have to fire
him, who else could I bring in that could get a grip on this job?”
“Who said you would have to bring someone in?” I asked. “Why not just
bring someone up?”
“Bring someone up?” the project manager asked.
“Absolutely,” I replied. “You’ve got a whole job site’s—really two job
sites’—worth of people out there. Are there no capable leaders among them?
Do you not think there is anyone who could step into the role of
superintendent and lead?”
“Maybe,” he replied without much enthusiasm.
With that, the project manager walked back into his trailer, and the VP
and I made the rounds, talking to the troops and leaders on the job site.
Overall, they had great crews of experienced workers making steady progress
on both towers. In fact, many of the crews were actually bouncing back and
forth between towers, doing work on both.
“The two teams are basically equivalent,” the VP said to me.
“Yeah, they are. Isn’t it amazing how one tower is doing so well and the
other isn’t?” I said with a hint of sarcasm in my voice. We both knew exactly
what was happening here.
“‘No bad teams, only bad leaders,’” the VP said, quoting the chapter from
Extreme Ownership that explained how when a team is failing it is the
leader’s fault. “The Tower Two super isn’t working out. And the project
manager won’t do anything about it.”
“Indeed,” I replied. “That is some bad leadership, isn’t it?”
“It sure is…,” the VP replied, fading off at the end as he realized what I
was really saying. He gave me an inquisitive yet knowing look. I simply
nodded.
“This is on me, isn’t it,” the VP said.
“You are the leader,” I replied.
He stood for a moment looking across the construction site. Then he
looked at me and said, “I get it.”
“You get what?” I replied.
“I get it. I get that everything you just said to the project manager you
might as well have been saying to me,” the VP observed. “If the Tower Two
super isn’t working out, and the project manager isn’t doing anything about
it, that is actually my fault … and I need to fix it.”
“That is Extreme Ownership,” I acknowledged.
The VP was quiet for a few moments. Then he said, “Okay. I get that too.
But here is the problem: The Tower Two super, he’s a good guy. He’s
worked other jobs for us before and done just fine. And the project manager
—he can get it done. Look at Tower One. I want to take care of these guys.”
“Sure. The project manager can get it done, but he is not,” I noted. “And
are you really taking care of these guys by letting the project fall behind?
Letting them fail? This is one of the dichotomies of leadership: balancing
between when to keep people, to coach them and mentor them until they get
up to speed, and when to make the call that they are hurting the team and get
rid of them. Of course, when you coach and mentor and try to help them, you
are going to develop a relationship with them—you are going to build trust.
But as a leader, if you are investing too much time into one person, that
means others are being ignored. Also, if a member of the team isn’t able to
perform effectively, it is likely impacting the mission as a whole. I think that
is where you are with this situation. You are letting the project manager deal
with the super, but he isn’t doing it well and the whole job is suffering. You
need to get in there and get it fixed.”
“I do,” the VP agreed. “I’ll make it happen.”
He asked for some time alone with the project manager. I went and talked
to some of the contractors on the job and learned more about how the
leadership interacted with them as contractors. An hour or so later, the VP
texted me and told me he was in his trailer and wanted to debrief the
conversation with the project manager, so I headed to his trailer.
“That was easier than I thought,” he said.
“That’s good. What did you tell him?” I asked.
“First, I told him that I liked him and thought he was very capable,” the
VP said. “But then I told him he was failing—and that if he was failing, I was
failing. Then I explained that if I was failing, I needed to take ownership of
the situation and fix it.”
“How did he like that?” I asked, expecting that the project manager would
get defensive and ask him to back off a little and let him do his job.
“Surprisingly, he didn’t mind,” answered the VP.
“Really?” I asked, surprised.
“I think he needs some help with the hard decisions,” the VP said. “And I
think he knows that. So I told him to give an extremely firm written
counseling to the super of Tower Two. And at the same time, I told him to
find someone who could step up and take over Tower Two. That was his
biggest concern: he didn’t think anyone in Tower Two was ready to step up.
But I told him to look at some of the guys from Tower One. They have the
same information. And they have the benefit of having followed a good
leader on Tower One for the last six months. They know what they are
supposed to do and they have already seen it done right. He liked that idea—
and immediately offered a couple of names that could potentially pull it off. I
think this is going to work out pretty well.”
“That’s great, at least the talk went great,” I said. “Now comes the hard
part: execution. The project manager has to have some tough conversations
with the superintendent. Those conversations are hard. And if the
conversations don’t work, he may have to terminate the superintendent. It’s
tough to go from trying to coach and help someone to firing them. But, as a
leader, it is unfortunately a dichotomy you have to deal with,” I told him.
Over the next few weeks, I was not on the job site, but I received regular
updates from the VP. He and the project manager executed the plan. The
project manager wrote up the Tower Two superintendent. The VP and project
manager worked together to identify and speak with the best possible
candidate from Tower One to step up and become the superintendent of
Tower Two. After three weeks and three written counseling sessions, the
super from Tower Two made no improvement. So they let him go. The
project manager elevated a new superintendent into the position and pressed
on with this new leadership in place. Because of the relationship between the
Tower One super and the new Tower Two super, the Tower One super went
out of his way to get the new Tower Two super up to speed—even giving
him manpower and resources to get them caught up, in an excellent example
of Cover and Move. And although Tower One did finish ahead of Tower
Two, Tower Two team’s performance radically improved once the proper
balance was found between continuing to coach the underperforming
superintendent and deciding it was time to remove and replace him with good
leadership.
PART II
BALANCING THE MISSION
A combined force of SEALs from Task Unit Bruiser’s Charlie and Delta platoons lay down cover fire
from the rooftop for their fellow SEALs, Iraqi soldiers, and U.S. Army Soldiers of Task Force Red
Currahee (1st Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne) in the streets below. The
urban landscape of closely packed buildings and cramped city streets in Ramadi was inherently difficult
terrain in which to fight. Extensive and challenging training in urban environments prior to deployment
was crucial to Task Unit Bruiser’s success, and lessons learned from Ramadi were passed on to future
SEAL task units and platoons during training.
(Photo courtesy of Todd Pitman)
CHAPTER 5
Train Hard, but Train Smart
Leif Babin
* * *
In the scenario above, Jocko and I had traveled to a MOUT training site to
observe one of my SEAL task units with its two platoons during the FTX
portions of their training in urban combat. We had spent the last two days
watching their runs. It was clear that the dominant leadership force in the task
unit was one of the platoon chiefs, Big Walt. He was highly experienced and
a natural-born leader. No matter how great the pressure, he was resolute and
unflinching. In every scenario, he stepped up and made things happen. His
platoon had excelled in previous scenarios based largely upon his leadership
ability. The rest of his platoon, and even the other platoon in the task unit,
leaned heavily on Big Walt to make decisions. While such an effective leader
brings great value, the team is seriously hamstrung if its performance relies
solely on a single leader. If that leader is wounded or killed, or is not
immediately present to make a call, the team’s performance suffers when
others are reluctant to step up, having never done so.
Jocko knew there was only one way to address the issue. “Big Walt is
dominating,” he said. “I think we need to put him down to see if others will
step up and lead.”
“I agree,” I said. “I’ve been thinking the very same thing.”
As usual, Jocko and I were on the same page. He directed his training
instructor staff to put Big Walt down on the next FTX run, meaning he would
be “killed” in simulation.
For the next FTX scenario, the SEAL platoon had been tasked with a
mission to enter the cinder-block MOUT town and capture or kill a terrorist
leader—in this case, a role-player. We observed their planning process and
operation order, the mission brief to the team. Then they launched on the
operation. Jocko and I followed along, shadowing the leaders and observing.
To simulate the realities of urban combat, the TRADET cadre burned tires
in the streets and set off grenade simulators. The smoke and noise built
tension. Unarmed “civilians,” role-players without visible weapons who
might or might not be enemy fighters, approached the SEALs in the patrol to
harass and delay them. Then SEAL training instructors ordered other, hostile
role-players to attack. Soon “enemy” role-players began shooting at the
SEAL platoon with paintball or Simunition1 rounds. Despite the mounting
chaos, Big Walt kept things under control. He was solid as a rock.
It was time for other leaders to stop leaning on Big Walt for everything
and make the calls themselves. They needed to confront the challenge of
leading in difficult situations, under pressure and outside of their comfort
zone, so they could learn. As we often said: There is no growth in the comfort
zone.
Unfortunately for Big Walt, his number was up. As the pressure and
intensity of the battle increased with the SEAL platoon, Big Walt was out in
the street directing the team. A SEAL training instructor ran over to him and
said: “Chief, you’re down.”
Big Walt looked back at him in disbelief. He wasn’t happy. After letting
fly a few expletives, he very reluctantly sat down in the street. But he
couldn’t help himself: he continued to try to rally the SEAL shooters around
him and organize them.
“Chief, you’re dead. You’re out of the scenario. You can’t speak,” the
SEAL instructor insisted.
Big Walt reluctantly complied. Two SEALs picked him up and loaded
him into the back of their Humvee, which unfortunately had also been put
down by the instructor cadre and was now marked as inoperable and stranded
in the street. Then the two SEALs moved to cover inside a nearby building.
That’s when the call came out over the intersquad radio: “Big Walt is
down.”
With their trusted platoon chief out of the picture, the rest of the platoon
and task unit broke down. No one stepped up, no one rallied the troops or
gave them direction. The LPO knew he was expected to lead, but he wasn’t
making things happen. Meanwhile, “enemy” role-players continued to
maneuver and pick off additional SEALs, who went down as simulated
casualties.
After several minutes of this, it was apparent to Jocko and me—and the
rest of the SEAL training cadre—that without Big Walt, the SEAL platoon
was overwhelmed to the point where learning had greatly diminished. Hard
training was crucial. No matter how difficult training could be, combat was
infinitely harder. Therefore training must be hard to simulate the immense
challenges of real combat and apply pressure to decision-makers. But we also
knew that in training, as in everything else, finding balance was key.
If training is too easy and doesn’t stretch the capabilities of the
participants, their improvement will be minimal. But if training overwhelms
the team to a point where its participants can no longer function, it greatly
diminishes the lessons they will learn from it. While training must make the
team, and especially leaders, uncomfortable, it cannot be so overwhelming
that it destroys morale, stifles growth, and implants a defeatist attitude.
With this in mind, we knew we needed to reinsert Big Walt into the
scenario. Jocko and I discussed it and were once again in complete
agreement. Big Walt needed to be resurrected.
“Big Walt,” Jocko yelled over the noise of gunfire and explosions.
“You’re alive.”
“What?” Big Walt yelled from the back of the Humvee, where he was
seated and clearly exasperated that his platoon was pinned down and he was
unable to help them.
“You’re alive,” Jocko repeated. “You’re back in the scenario.”
Immediately, like the mythical phoenix rising from the ashes, Big Walt
stood up, and from the back of the Humvee, his weapon pointed to the sky at
high port, barked simple, clear, and concise orders:
“Everyone consolidate here in this building!” he yelled, pointing out a
nearby concrete structure. “Fall back to my position now!”
He didn’t use his radio, as the LPO had tried to do. He used simple verbal
commands shouted so those within earshot could hear and understand.
Within seconds the platoon started moving. Even the SEAL operators who
couldn’t see him directly could hear his voice and moved in that direction.
They passed the word to others via verbal command. Within only a few
seconds, the platoon consolidated into a single building. Once secure in the
building, Big Walt ordered security set and called for a quick head count. The
word came back within a few moments—all SEALs were accounted for.
Next, Big Walt ordered the team to “break out” of the building and head to
the remaining Humvees that were still operable so they could mount up,
depart the city, and move out of harm’s way and back to the mock base. With
Big Walt’s leadership and clear direction, all of this took place rapidly and
with relative ease.
Once back at the base, it was onto the most important part of the training:
the debrief. Leaders from the platoon and task unit stepped up to analyze
what went right, what went wrong, and how they could do it better. The
SEAL training instructors piled on with their critiques. Jocko debriefed the
leaders. And I passed my thoughts on as well.
There were always lessons to be learned. The best platoons and task units
embraced those lessons with Extreme Ownership, acknowledged the
problems, and figured out ways to solve them. They constantly improved.
The worst units rejected the criticism and complained about how training was
too hard.
For the FTX scenario, the biggest lessons learned were for the LPO. He
had been pinned down and unable to get the team moving, thinking it was an
impossible situation. Yet, Big Walt was able to immediately get the team
engaged and moving with a single verbal command. The LPO now
understood what he had to do in such circumstances. As failure is often the
best teacher, he was determined to learn from this experience and do better.
We had brought Big Walt back to life to ensure that such learning took place.
The reincarnated Big Walt set the example and demonstrated clearly what
good leadership can accomplish—even in the direst of situations. It was a
lesson the LPO and other junior leaders in the platoon were not likely to
forget.
* * *
Of all the lessons we learned in combat in Ramadi, the most valuable one was
this: Leadership is the most important thing on the battlefield. Leadership—at
every level—is the critical factor in whether a team succeeds or fails. I
witnessed this many times, under the most dreadful real-world circumstances
imaginable. When a leader stepped up and took charge, got the team focused
and moving together, the results were incredible. This training scenario
proved yet again how when all seemed lost, just one person stepping up and
making the call meant the difference between victory or defeat. Had we left
Big Walt “dead” and out of the scenario, the task unit would have been
completely destroyed by the enemy role-players. They would not have seen
the importance of battlefield leadership. They would have thought that when
things got too bad, nothing could be done to save them. But that is wrong.
And as much as we wanted the scenarios to be hard, they also had to educate.
It was crucial that the other SEALs in the platoon and task unit personally
witnessed how a decisive call from a bold leader made all the difference,
even in the most chaotic situations. Seeing this, many of those junior leaders
would emulate that leader and step up to lead their teams. The whole point of
training was to demonstrate this fundamental truth and build a culture of
Decentralized Command where everyone leads, where leaders at every level
take charge, act decisively to overcome obstacles and accomplish the
mission. In order to achieve this, training had to be challenging; it had to be
difficult. It had to push the team members far beyond their comfort zone so
they understood what it was like to be overwhelmed, outmaneuvered, and on
the defensive. But training could not be so challenging that it overwhelmed
the team to a point where no learning took place.
Finding the balance between training that was too easy, where the trainees
weren’t truly challenged, and training so hard that the trainees were crushed
was a dichotomy that leaders and instructors had to balance during every
training event. Often, we didn’t recognize that the dichotomy had become
unbalanced until we had strayed too far in one direction.
In Task Unit Bruiser, during our training workup—before we had
deployed to Ramadi—I had experienced this firsthand during our own
MOUT FTXs. The instructors had sent us out on a suicide mission. They had
dragged the fuselage of an old UH-1 Huey helicopter into the center of the
MOUT town, surrounded by streets and cinder-block buildings. It was a
Black Hawk Down2 scenario: our mission was to “rescue” the crew from a
downed helicopter, which the Huey hulk would represent, in the midst of a
hostile city. The TRADET instructors had bolted a quarter-inch-thick steel
plate to one side. In the scenario, our SEAL platoon would have to use a
“quickie saw”—a heavy-duty power tool—to cut through the steel plate and
access the cockpit and passenger compartment of the Huey fuselage, the
simulated “wreckage.” In Charlie Platoon, we knew it was going to be a
tough mission, but we were determined to do our utmost to get it done as
quickly and efficiently as possible.
We launched on the nighttime operation in Humvees that stopped three
blocks away and dropped off the main force of SEALs who would go in for
the rescue. Quickly and quietly, we patrolled on foot through the dark streets.
All was quiet until we arrived at the downed helicopter—the Huey fuselage
resting ominously in the MOUT town’s main intersection.
Our SEAL fire teams moved into position and set up a defensive
perimeter. Meanwhile, the SEAL breacher started his quickie saw and revved
the engine, going to work on the steel plate as the saw bit into the metal with
a loud screech, sending sparks flying.
Within seconds, all hell broke loose. Role-players—the “enemy” fighters
we were up against—unleashed a vicious barrage of paintball rounds from
every direction. The SEAL fire teams on security returned fire, but it was of
little use. We were stuck in the middle of the street sawing through the steel
plate while the enemy had the high ground from the second-story windows
and rooftops all around us. There was nothing we could do except abandon
the mission. And with our mentality in Task Unit Bruiser, that was not an
option. We were determined to get into the helicopter and “rescue” the two
crew members inside, as per the scenario we had been given. So we were
stuck, out in the street with no cover, taking fire from all directions. It was a
total bloodbath. The instructors tossed grenade simulators that exploded with
loud booms and blinding flashes.
I moved around, checking on the guys under the ridiculous onslaught. Our
breacher running the quickie saw was taking the worst of it. I moved up to
him to see how he was doing.
“How we looking?” I yelled over the din.
“Almost there,” he answered, gritting his teeth as multiple paintball
rounds impacted his gear at high speed, splattering his load-bearing
equipment and leaving nasty welts on his neck, arms, and legs. His back was
turned to the enemy, and because he was operating the heavy saw with both
hands, he couldn’t even shoot back. But he stood there and took it like a man
—a “Big Tough Frogman.” I knelt next to him and returned fire on his behalf
to try and suppress the enemy onslaught, to no avail. I got hit from every
direction as dozens of paintball rounds slammed into me, stinging my hands,
arms, legs, and neck. Pretty soon, the face mask and goggles I wore to protect
my eyes were so covered in greasy paint from the paintball rounds, I could
barely see. The TRADET instructors wore ChemLights that glowed to mark
their position at night and let us know not to shoot them. They were supposed
to be off-limits and treated as if they weren’t there. I couldn’t make out much,
but I knew where they were located just a few yards away. Knowing they
were controlling the situation, I unleashed several paint rounds of my own in
their direction, sending the instructors scurrying for cover. Finally, the
breacher cut through the steel plate and we rescued the two role-players
acting as “pilots.” We then beat a hasty retreat out of the city, cringing at the
welts we had received and laughing about how much that evolution had
sucked.
Of all the challenging FTX scenarios we’d been through at MOUT, that
was the craziest—and also the least educational. It had gone beyond a
difficult scenario that challenged us and turned into nothing more than a huge
suckfest that we just had to grit our teeth and bear until it was over. When we
got back, I counted at least thirty-seven different paintball impacts on my
uniform and op gear, and probably even more that I couldn’t distinguish.
That didn’t count the dozen or so that had hit my face mask and goggles. Had
they been real bullets, I would have died many times over. When Jocko saw
me covered head to toe in colorful paint splotches, he just shook his head and
laughed.
“I guess you guys GOT SOME,” he said with a smile.
“Yeah,” I said. “We got some alright. We got the ‘full benefit’ of that
evolution.”
The “enemy” attack by the role-players had been so overwhelming,
there’d been nothing we could do to counter it. Cutting through the steel plate
on the Huey had taken several agonizing minutes—much longer than the
TRADET instructors had anticipated. It would have been better training and
more educational for us had they eased back the attacks once they realized we
were overwhelmed and pinned down, unable to move until the saw cut
through the steel. The biggest thing I did learn from the scenario was that in
such a situation, we would need a much larger force to clear all the buildings
on the entire block and put SEALs on the high ground, to ensure we had
tactically superior positions on the enemy and not the other way around. The
other thing I learned was that at some point, I had to be willing to cancel a
mission. I would have to make the tough call to pull back and abort the
mission so we could regroup and re-attack rather than pointlessly sacrifice
my entire team.
In Task Unit Bruiser, we embraced hard training. We took on difficult
challenges and physically demanding scenarios with eagerness. But I realized
that there was a line. Training had to be hard, but it couldn’t be so hard that it
crushed the team and diminished the learning that is supposed to take place.
It was a dichotomy that had to be carefully balanced.
* * *
On the other side of the dichotomy, good leaders must ensure that training
incorporates the most difficult, realistic challenges of the real-world
battlefield. There were some SEALs who didn’t want to train hard. They
constantly complained at being challenged and driven beyond their comfort
zone. They said training was unrealistic, too basic, or that they wanted to
work on what they referred to as “advanced tactics.” In truth, most of this
was just a euphemism for “I don’t want to train hard; I don’t want to be
challenged.” It was weak and frankly shocking to see such attitudes in a few
SEALs, but particularly so in experienced SEAL leaders.
“This training is ridiculous,” one SEAL chief said of the challenges in the
training scenarios that TRADET built under Jocko’s leadership. “I’ve
deployed multiple times and nothing that bad has ever happened on any of
my deployments.”
But just because someone hasn’t experienced the worst-case scenario in
real life doesn’t mean it couldn’t happen. It doesn’t mean the team shouldn’t
be prepared for the harshest realities of combat. In fact, quite the opposite is
true. The team must be prepared for those worst-case scenarios—multiple
downed men at the same time, a vehicle that hits an IED, or a “low-risk”
mission that goes horribly wrong.
Often, one of the biggest points of pushback from such complainers in the
SEAL platoon or task unit was that the “enemy” role-players—the SEAL
TRADET instructors and other volunteers—were too “good” at their job.
They were more skilled and better equipped than any of the enemy fighters
we faced overseas. But that should have been embraced as a good thing,
challenging the team so it would be more prepared. Besides, many of the
enemy fighters we were up against in Ramadi were pretty damned skilled.
They had years of real-world combat experience from which they had
learned, innovated, and adapted. You could never take them for granted,
never get complacent, or they would overrun your position and wipe you out.
Along with this, another common criticism of why training was too hard
was that the training instructors “cheated.”
“They know our plan,” some SEALs would complain about the role-
players. “And we have to follow the rules, while they do not.”
Jocko countered this with logic: “The enemy fighters you are going up
against overseas, they don’t follow rules either: they have no rules of
engagement like we do. They use treachery, to conceal their attack or lure
you into an ambush. They use women and children as human shields. They
use suicide bombers. They set up opposing ambushes where they might shoot
each other to try to kill more of us. They don’t care. But we do. We play by
different rules than they do. So if my training instructors—our role-players—
are breaking the rules: GOOD. That is realistic training. Instead of
complaining about it, embrace it and figure out a way to overcome it.”
Hard training is the solemn duty of trainers and leaders every day.
It was the mantra that Jocko and his TRADET instructors lived by. And it
was incumbent upon them to ensure that training was difficult, that standards
were held high so that SEAL platoons and task units were ready to survive
and thrive in the toughest environments they might be thrust into on distant
battlefields.
Some leaders strove to make sure their people were happy, which might
include overlooking performance deficiencies, allowing the team to cut
corners, and not holding the line to train hard, maintain discipline, follow
standard operating procedures, and overcome obstacles. Some leaders
thought they were encouraging their team through false cheerleading, telling
their people they’re doing better than they truly were. And perhaps that’s
what the SEAL leaders who complained were seeking. But leaders who never
pushed the team outside its comfort zone in training, who didn’t push the
standards and drive their team toward exceptional performance, and who
didn’t provide a direct and honest critique ended up with less productive, less
effective teams that failed when truly tested under the rigors of real-world
challenges.
The best leaders—often those who learned through experience what
worked and what didn’t—looked out for the long-term success of the team
and the mission. They didn’t shy away from tough conversations to correct
underperformance. They held the standards high and ensured the team was
fully prepared for the worst-case scenario. Leaders who pushed their people
to excel, to continuously learn and grow, enabled their teams to become
comfortable in situations where they were previously uncomfortable. By
challenging frontline leaders and junior or less experienced personnel to take
on greater roles and responsibilities, the team implements proper
Decentralized Command so that leaders at every level of the team step up to
lead. The team then becomes far more effective and able to accomplish its
mission. When the team succeeds and outperforms all others, that opens up
the biggest opportunities for its people’s long-term success.
The strategic goal of training must always be to build capable leaders at
every level of the team. For this, hard training is essential. But if training is
too hard, it will break the team and minimize learning and growth. So there
must be balance: train hard, but train smart.
Principle
Hard training is critical to the performance of any team; this is clearly the
case with SEAL platoons and task units deploying to combat zones, where
we say: “You train how you fight and you fight how you train.” The best
training programs push their teams hard, far beyond their comfort zone, so
that the team can learn from mistakes in training. Hopefully, this prevents the
team from making those or similar mistakes in real life.
In About Face: The Odyssey of an American Warrior, Colonel David H.
Hackworth (U.S. Army, Ret.),3 quoted a mentor of his, U.S. Army Colonel
Glover Johns: “The harder the training, the more troops will brag.” Ask any
SEAL: “What was the hardest BUD/S class?” and you’ll get your answer:
their class number. Everyone wants to say that they had it the toughest, that
their training was harder than everyone else’s—after the fact, at least. But
sometimes in the midst of training some teams want to stay in their comfort
zone. Leaders can’t allow that.
Training must be hard. Training must simulate realistic challenges and
apply pressure to decision-makers. There is no growth in the comfort zone. If
training doesn’t push the team beyond the limits of what is easy, the team,
and particularly leaders within the team, will never develop the capacity to
take on greater challenges. But training is designed to make the team better,
to enable its members to function in realistic conditions they might face. It
can’t be so difficult that it crushes the team, demoralizes it, or overwhelms
participants to the point where they fail to learn. As in everything, leaders
must find the balance in training and focus on three critical aspects: realism,
fundamentals, and repetition.
Training must be realistic. Every training scenario should be based upon
something that is likely to (or could potentially) be encountered in a real
scenario. The takeaways must be immediately applicable to the team’s
mission. For those who haven’t experienced it, the chaos and uncertainty of
the battlefield can be overwhelming. That’s why it was critical to create that
chaos as much as we could in training. Training should push the team, and
particularly leaders, into realistic, uncomfortable situations where they aren’t
sure what to do. In the business world, training must do the same. Role-play
scenarios dealing with a problem client or customer, or a high-pressure
decision that must be made immediately, when the outcome isn’t certain and
the picture not 100 percent clear. Rehearse the contingencies for a serious
accident and run the procedures that must be followed even under high stress.
Training must focus on the fundamentals. While units must adapt and
innovate, some basic tactics do not change. Just as this is true in military
tactics, it is true in any business or area of life. Often people want to skip
through the basic fundamentals into what they call “advanced tactics.” But
advanced tactics are worthless if a team can’t do the basics well. Leaders
must ensure that a training program develops the foundation of basic
fundamentals.
Training must be repetitive. It is not enough to have a training program for
new hires in the first days or weeks that they join the team. Training must be
continuous for everyone. Each person gets better with iterations, so it is
important to plan repetitive training over time that challenges each member
of the team—particularly leaders.
Take Extreme Ownership of training. Rather than wait for someone else to
build a training program or make training more realistic and effective, seize
the initiative on your own. The best training programs are not orchestrated
from the top but driven from the bottom—the frontline leaders who are
closest to the action and the lessons learned. Utilize the most accomplished
members of the team to drive training programs and pass on lessons learned
to others.
“We don’t have the budget to train” isn’t a valid excuse. It costs nothing
to set up a role-playing scenario to put leaders in situations where they are
unprepared, to make tough decisions and therefore make them better.
“We don’t have time to train” isn’t a valid excuse. Make time for the
things that are important. And good training is essential to the success of any
team. Building frequently recurring training into the schedule is the most
effective way to improve the team’s performance.
Again, the key to great training is finding balance. Hard training is
essential, but smart training is crucial to maximize the use of time and enable
optimal learning.
Application to Business
“I don’t trust my frontline leaders to execute the mission,” said the senior
project manager. “You’re telling us that we need to use Decentralized
Command, but I don’t have faith that my junior leaders can properly
execute.”
“Training is how you develop your leaders and build that trust,” I replied.
“Let’s take a look at your training program.”
“We don’t really have one,” the senior project manager responded.
“Well, that could certainly be your problem,” I observed. “Why don’t you
take ownership of building it?”
* * *
I had given a keynote presentation to the company’s annual leadership off-
site, and the combat principles we wrote about in Extreme Ownership had
resonated powerfully with the team. The company brought me back to build a
leadership development program for two dozen of the company’s senior
leaders—the department heads and senior project managers, just below the c-
suite level, who executed the vision of the company’s senior executive team.
It was a great company with solid leaders in place, some with substantial
experience and others fairly new to the team. As a result of their success, the
company had experienced rapid growth and expansion. But the dispersion of
resources, particularly experienced leadership, on a vast number of projects
happening concurrently was causing a problem.
While eager and aggressive to win, some of the company’s senior leaders
recognized that the speed of growth thrust very junior leaders with inadequate
experience into critical management positions with little oversight. The senior
leaders recognized the risk associated with this in the quality of service the
company delivered and the ability of the frontline teams to effectively
accomplish the mission on time and within budget.
As I worked with the company’s senior leaders over the course of many
months, I heard a consistent theme: “We don’t have enough experienced
leaders in the field to run these projects. We’re piling too much on
inexperienced leaders who are unprepared.”
It was a genuine concern, and a risk that didn’t seem to be fully
comprehended by the company’s executive team when brought to their
attention.
I addressed the problem head-on during one of my meetings with the
senior leaders in the class. “The point you bring up is a valid one,” I said,
“but the only way to prepare those inexperienced leaders is to train them.
You need to place them in tough circumstances in training that will prepare
them for the challenges of the real world.”
Some on the team seemed skeptical.
“How is training ever going to replicate actual experience?” one leader
inquired.
I could see others in the group nodding, agreeing with the premise of the
question.
I explained that training could not replace actual experience. There was
nothing better than real-world experience. But I emphasized that challenging
training programs that focused on realism, fundamentals, and repetition
would greatly improve the performance of their junior leaders. It would also
go far to mitigate the risk of failure by inexperienced junior leaders operating
with too little oversight.
I had talked extensively about the Battle of Ramadi and the lessons we
had learned from it. We did this to give context to the group so they fully
understood where the leadership principles we taught had come from.
“Do you know how much experience I had on the actual battlefield as a
SEAL platoon commander before I deployed to Ramadi in 2006?” I asked the
group.
Some shrugged. No one answered. They either didn’t know, didn’t want
to guess, or perhaps didn’t want to admit the answer.
“None,” I said. “That was my first time. I had never been a platoon
commander before. I had never led a platoon of SEALs in advance of a huge
conventional U.S. military force of fifty tanks and thousands of Soldiers and
Marines. I had never been in a real firefight before. No one in my platoon had
done any of that before.
“Do you know how much experience Jocko had as a task unit commander,
when we deployed to Ramadi?” I continued. “None. And yet he showed
exceptional strategic vision in counterinsurgency operations and led Task
Unit Bruiser as a key supporting element to the U.S. victory there. The Delta
Platoon commander, Seth Stone—he was deploying as a platoon commander
for the first time and he proved himself an extraordinary combat leader in his
very first firefight.”
* * *
I relayed a story that Jocko had told me about Seth and Delta Platoon on their
first operation in the dangerous and violent Malaab District of eastern
Ramadi. Seth had led his platoon, including Delta Platoon’s courageous and
aggressive point man, machine gunner and sniper, J. P. Dinnell, on a patrol
with a company of U.S. Soldiers from the legendary 1st Battalion, 506th
Parachute Infantry Regiment, “Band of Brothers,” of the U.S. Army’s 101st
Airborne Division and their Iraqi soldier counterparts, led by an Army major
as their advisor. The 1/506th Soldiers had been on the ground in this volatile
neighborhood for months. They’d seen daily, violent combat and scores of
intense gun battles. Our Task Unit Bruiser SEALs had only just arrived. Not
long after the combined patrol of SEALs, U.S. Soldiers, and Iraqi troops had
moved out into the streets of the Malaab, they soon found themselves in what
we called a “Big Mix-It-Up”—a significant firefight—as enemy fighters
attacked them with machine guns and RPG rockets. The U.S. and Iraqi patrol
was pinned down and unable to move. Seth made his way over to the Army
major in charge of the Iraqi soldiers, crouching low as bullets zipped past.
“I’ll take a section of my SEALs and flank the enemy fighters,” Seth said
calmly over the clamor of incoming and outgoing gunfire, pointing to the
location on his map where they planned to maneuver. “We’ll take the high
ground from the rooftop of one of those buildings there,” he added, pointing
at a cluster of buildings.
“Sounds good,” said the major. “Do it.”
Seth gave the signal to move out, with J. P. Dinnell in the lead wielding
his Mk46 machine gun and the squad of SEALs following behind. They
aggressively maneuvered to flank the enemy, entered and cleared one of the
buildings, then took the rooftop. From there, they engaged enemy fighters
from the high ground, killing several and forcing the remainder to flee.
The patrol, no longer pinned down, was able to continue and soon made
its way back to the safety of the base.
As Jocko listened to the debrief after the operation, the major said to Seth:
“That was really impressive how you calmly maneuvered your element under
fire and flanked the enemy. You must have been in a lot of urban combat—
and a bunch of firefights.”
“No, sir,” Seth replied. “That was actually my very first firefight.”
* * *
To the senior leaders in the classroom, I explained that the only reason Seth
and Delta Platoon were able to perform so well in their first firefight was that
they had participated in extraordinary, realistic training prior to deployment.
It was the same for us in Charlie Platoon.
“We were all thrust into some incredibly difficult situations,” I continued.
“But we had spent months preparing in rigorous training scenarios. That
training saved lives, enabled us to effectively execute, and played an integral
role in Task Unit Bruiser’s success.”
“We could use a training program,” one senior leader agreed. “It would be
nice if the executive leadership would develop one.”
“That’s what you are going to do?” I asked. “Wait for the executive team
to build the training program? Does that sound like Extreme Ownership?
Look, they’ve already got a lot on their plates. Besides, all of you in this
room are closer to this problem. You understand where the experience is
lacking and you have the knowledge that your junior leaders need. So you
need to develop it.”
I explained that in the SEAL Teams, it isn’t the senior leaders—the
admirals and captains—who run the leadership programs. It’s the returning
platoon commanders and platoon chiefs and leading petty officers.
“It’s up to you to develop the training program,” I said. “Then run it up
the chain of command for their support and approval.
“Put your junior, inexperienced leaders in difficult scenarios,” I continued.
“Role-play with them. Force them to make decisions under pressure. Then
debrief and analyze those decisions.”
I reminded them of Jocko’s mantra at training detachment: Hard training
is the solemn duty of trainers and leaders every day.
“But you have to train smart,” I reminded them. “Maximize the use of
time and resources. Make training realistic to prepare your key leaders for
their real-world challenges. I guarantee you that the return on investment
from a good training program will be substantial.”
Throughout the leadership development course, I grew to know many of
the company’s senior leaders well. There were several outstanding leaders in
the group. Three of them recognized the pressing need for a training program
and took ownership of the problem. They stepped up and took on the
challenge of developing and implementing an effective training program,
despite their busy schedules.
I followed up with the company’s executive team and highlighted to them
the need for an effective training program. Just as I suspected, the executive
team was fully supportive. They welcomed the efforts of the department
heads and senior project managers who took charge of the program.
It took significant effort and time to build the program. Finally, after
months of preparation, they were ready to roll it out. I wasn’t on-site to
observe the initial training session, but the next week I followed up via phone
with one of the senior department heads who had helped build the program.
“How did it go?” I asked him.
“It could have gone better,” he said. “There was a lot of pushback.”
I was surprised to hear this after the extensive efforts that had been made
to build a solid training program.
“What happened?” I asked.
“It wasn’t the content,” the senior department head answered. “The
content is good. The objectives are solid. It was the delivery.
“The leader who instructed this first course was probably not the right guy
to lead this effort,” he continued. “He put out too much information and
constantly quizzed the participants, most of whom couldn’t keep up. When it
was clear they didn’t understand, he yelled at them in front of the class. The
class is normally an enthusiastic group, but no one was happy about that
training. The feedback has been super-negative.”
“Not good,” I responded. “You know how important it is for the company
to have an effective training program. First of all, training is only as good as
the instructors who are teaching it. So you have to carefully select the right
people for this.
“You have to push the standards and train hard,” I said. “But you can’t
train so hard that it defeats the purpose of training in the first place: to
educate and prepare your team to more effectively execute the company’s
mission.
“So, you need to rein that in,” I continued. “Start over with a new
instructor. In fact, you should instruct the next session. And make it clear to
participants that this time will be different. Training should be challenging.
But only as a means to make your team better, to prepare them for the
challenges they face in the real world. You’ve got to train hard, but train
smart.”
A Task Unit Bruiser machine gunner holds security from inside a compound. The terrain in the battle of
Ramadi was mostly urban, but some operations took place outside of the city in rural terrain. Yet, the
fundamentals remained the same: Cover and Move. Notice the extra bandolier of ammunition slung
over the shoulder. Bruiser SEALs carried as much ammo as possible, and still ran low on a regular
basis.
(Courtesy of U.S. Navy. Photograph taken by Mate Second Class Sam Peterson.)
CHAPTER 6
Aggressive, Not Reckless
Jocko Willink
* * *
We were poised and ready to launch on a major clearance operation in a
particularly violent insurgent stronghold. Our objective was to clear a village
and marketplace in that stronghold—a series of small buildings and market
stalls—known to U.S. forces as “Mav Market.” The name derived from a past
combat operation nearby, when American forces under enemy attack had
called for close air support, and U.S. war planes hit several enemy positions
with AGM-65 Maverick missiles.
For the operation we were about to launch, I was the ground force
commander, staged with the assault force of Charlie Platoon SEALs and a
dozen Iraqi soldiers, at a U.S. Army combat outpost (COP) in a rural
agricultural area outside the city. The area was known to U.S. forces as “MC-
1.” Although it shared a border with the northern edge of the city of Ramadi,
MC-1 was physically separated by the Euphrates River that ran west to east
through the area, demarcating the urban cityscape from a rural farming
community. Beyond the river, the landscape opened into irrigated farm fields,
levees, palm trees, and canals interspersed with small, scattered groups of
houses. It did not look at all like the urban or desert terrain we had come to
expect in Iraq; it was more like a scene from a Vietnam War movie. Task
Unit Bruiser and other U.S. forces had nicknamed the area “VietRam,” an
ode to the place so many of us had grown up hearing about in stories passed
down through oral history from the generations of SEALs who had fought in
Vietnam and through the Hollywood celluloid depictions in movies we had
all watched growing up.
Although the Euphrates River separated the urban zone of Ramadi proper
and VietRam, the violence from the city spilled over and permeated the
countryside. The roads contained massive IEDs, large enough to take out
armored vehicles, with frequent attacks along the main thoroughfares.
Coalition patrols, when crossing fields or open terrain, were a vulnerable
target for enemy mortar teams that knew the area well. The U.S. Army’s 1st
Battalion, 109th Infantry Regiment (1/109th), was responsible for the area.
They were an outstanding combat unit of experienced, professional, and
courageous Soldiers. By the time Task Unit Bruiser arrived, the 1/109th had
been on the ground for nearly a year fighting in this area. Because of the
expansive rural terrain, with limited roads, troop concentrations were
impossible—a single infantry platoon had to cover several square kilometers
of battlespace. With so little combat power to affect such a large space, it was
difficult to penetrate deep into enemy-held territory.
One of Leif’s assistant platoon commanders (or AOIC, for assistant
officer in charge) in Charlie Platoon had built a solid relationship with the
Soldiers of the 1/109th Infantry. The AOIC had teamed up with the Army
company and platoon leadership that patrolled the area. Together, they made
aggressive plans, orchestrating a bold push into the enemy-controlled
territory along the river. The AOIC, along with Charlie Platoon’s leading
petty officer (or LPO), and sniper Chris Kyle led their element of SEALs and
the Iraqi soldiers they worked with on patrols and sniper overwatch missions
deep into the contested areas, frequently receiving heavy enemy contact.
On one operation, the AOIC split his element of SEALs and Iraqi troops
into two squads. One squad patrolled on foot across a muddy, open field
when suddenly, insurgent fighters hiding in the tree line and nearby buildings
opened up on them with machine guns. The patrol dropped to the ground for
protection, pinned down by the enemy’s effective fire. Once they were
“sucking mud”—facedown in a prone position to avoid the hail of bullets—
enemy mortar rounds rained down, impacting all around them. Miraculously,
the muddy field saved the patrol, as the mortars penetrated deep into the mud
before exploding; the ground absorbed the explosions and lethal shrapnel,
leaving large holes in the mud but fortunately no holes in our teammates or
their Iraqi soldiers. The other SEAL squad, which had maintained a covered
position from the levee that bordered the field, quickly laid down suppressive
fire and beat back the enemy attack. Their solid efforts and plan using Cover
and Move enabled the SEAL squad stranded in the open to move to safety
without any casualties.
Over time, the series of aggressive operations by the 1/109th Soldiers,
Charlie Platoon SEALs, and Iraqi soldiers challenged the insurgents’ control
over the area. Together, the operations enabled the 1/109th to gain ground
and set up a small COP in the midst of VietRam, from which a platoon of
1/109th Soldiers lived and worked. From that small outpost, 1/109th and the
AOIC’s SEAL element conducted patrols, gathered atmospherics, and
acquired intelligence about enemy operations in the area. Eventually, they
identified a small enclave of a dozen or so buildings that seemed to be the
root of many enemy attacks: Mav Market.
With multiple intelligence sources indicating the area was a base of
operations for insurgents, the AOIC had brought the intelligence to us—Leif
and the rest of Charlie Platoon, and me at the task unit—with the
recommendation that we conduct an aggressive operation in the area. We
agreed and planned an assault to clear the village, capture any suspected
enemy personnel, search the market, and destroy any weapons caches we
found. The planning cycle commenced, mission approval given from our
chain of command, and a few days later, we launched from Camp Ramadi to
the 1/109th infantry’s COP in MC-1.
Wanting to get “eyes on” the village and the market prior to the assault,
we sent a sniper overwatch team—a small number of SEAL snipers, machine
gunners, a corpsman, a radioman, and an element leader—into the target area
prior to the assault. Their job was to spearhead the operation, sneak in
clandestinely, observe the target area for suspicious activity, and provide
security when the assault element entered the hamlet. This was critical, as the
enemy had an effective early warning network in the area. Sympathetic (or
fearful) locals monitored roads and paths going in and out of enemy
strongpoints. When coalition forces passed by, the locals passed signals or
made radio calls to inform the insurgents we were headed their way. That
gave the enemy fighters an opportunity to make a move: either run and
evade, hide their weapons and pretend to be civilians, or rally their troops and
attack with IEDs, machine guns, rockets, and mortars.
To minimize their exposure for this mission, the overwatch element rode
into the COP with a standard U.S. Army logistics convoy so as not to raise
any suspicion, while the rest of us—the assault force that would actually clear
the village and market—remained at Camp Ramadi, ready to launch.
When darkness fell, the overwatch element quietly patrolled from the
COP. They stealthily made their way across flooded fields, through canals,
over levees, and through date palm groves, until they reached the target area.
The overwatch element observed from a distance for a few minutes and then
determined that one of the buildings on the outskirts of the village appeared
vacant. The point man pushed a little farther forward, confirmed that there
were no signs of any occupants, and then called the rest of the overwatch
element to advance. The team entered the building and cleared it, not
dynamically as a SWAT team might do, but quietly, like cat burglars. Finding
nothing, they put their snipers in place and set their machine gunners in
security positions. The radioman passed their position to the tactical
operations center back at Camp Ramadi.
Once the overwatch was in position, the next phase of the operation
commenced. As ground force commander for the operation, I joined Leif and
the rest of Charlie Platoon’s SEALs, who would be the assault force for the
operation, accompanied by our Iraqi soldiers. The AOIC who had inspired
the operation was the assault force commander. We mounted up in our
vehicles at Camp Ramadi and drove out to the COP in MC-1 from where the
overwatch had launched. Our assault force was about thirty strong, half
SEALs and the other half Iraqi soldiers.
With the overwatch element in position, any movement or activity in the
village would be observed and passed to the assault force. I anticipated that
there might be enemy activity in the area, spurred up when the assault force
entered the vicinity and the insurgent early warning network passed the word.
Our transit in the Humvees was uneventful. We arrived at the COP, our
staging point for the assault. We pulled in and combat parked the vehicles
(Humvees were backed into parking spaces to facilitate quick departure), and
our team dismounted. I made a quick radio check with the overwatch
position.
“Charlie two-six, this is Jocko, over,” I said.
“Jocko, this is Charlie two-six, go,” the overwatch element leader
responded.
I passed a quick situation report: “Assault force is staged at the COP. Any
activity when we rolled in?”
“Negative,” he responded. “Nothing significant. We saw a few locals
moving about. Normal pattern of life. About twenty minutes ago, it got very
quiet. When you guys rolled in, no change—it seems like the village is
bedded down for the night.”
“Roger,” I replied. “We will let things continue to settle, then launch in a
few hours as planned,” I told him, indicating that we would stick to our
predetermined assault time late in the night.
I walked out to the vehicles and passed word to the rest of the team. The
assault force dismounted the vehicles and entered the COP building. They
took off their gear, sprawled out, and waited. Leif, his AOIC, and I had
business to attend to, so we made our way to a small tactical operations
center (TOC) that had been set up by the 1/109th Soldiers inside their COP.
In an age when people usually think a TOC means giant plasma television
monitors, coffeemakers, and slick modern furniture, this was the other end of
the spectrum. This TOC was bare-bones: a few maps on the wall; a rack-
mounted base station radio unit to communicate with elements in the field as
well as the headquarters back in Camp Ramadi; some dry-erase boards with
names, people, and plans written out on them; and basic communication
procedures. That was it.
The AOIC knew the area and the key leaders well and greeted the Army
platoon leader and the Soldiers in the TOC.
Leif and I introduced ourselves to the leadership of the 1/109th Infantry
platoon that was occupying the COP. “Good evening,” I told them as we
shook hands. “I’m Jocko, the task unit commander. This is Leif, the SEAL
platoon commander.”
“Great to meet you guys,” the 1/109th platoon commander said. He was a
professional Soldier, as were his noncommissioned officers and troops
manning the COP. “Thanks for all the support you’ve been giving us. We’ve
really had some good impact around here. A month ago, we would have been
attacked just trying to get to this spot. Now we live here!”
“Outstanding. You guys have done great work,” I said. “I’m glad we were
able to support you.”
With that, the platoon commander talked over the map with us, pointing
out danger areas, describing the enemy’s tactics particular to the area, and
outlining a fire support plan should we need help. Leif and I followed up with
some pointed questions about the routes in and out of the target village and
then sat down and listened.
Our overwatch element in the target area continued to pass traffic, with no
significant change. The area had settled down and there was no remarkable
activity in the village.
Inside the COP, we listened to the battalion radio net, the channel that
every platoon and every company in the 1/109th battalion monitored. In such
a hot area, there was always something happening and radio kept us up-to-
date—reports of enemy movement, friendly units maneuvering to contact,
U.S. troops wounded and sometimes killed. It was a strange experience to
hear the muffled gunfire off in the distance and then hear the radio calls of
the men on the ground, in that distant firefight, engulfed in adrenaline,
making decisions, passing information, requesting support. Some leaders
stayed calm even in bad situations. With others you could hear the panic in
their voices. Listening to hundreds of radio calls like this taught me and the
rest of the Task Unit Bruiser leadership that staying calm on the radio was a
mandatory trait if you wanted to lead effectively.
Then, in the midst of some of the normal radio traffic, we heard a strange
radio call from the 1/109th battalion TOC back in Ramadi. It seemed there
was another coalition unit that had not deconflicted and was purportedly
conducting an operation in the direct vicinity of the Task Unit Bruiser
operation. It was not normal for a unit to be out without intensive
coordination. But there was even more puzzling information: the report on
the radio said the unit “could possibly be dressed in indigenous clothing.”
This quickly went from strange to dangerous. Under normal
circumstances in this hostile battlespace with multiple U.S. and Iraqi units,
which clearly stood out as friendly in their combat gear and weaponry, the
hazards from a potential “blue-on-blue” or friendly fire situation were quite
high without extensive deconfliction. But for coalition troops to conduct an
operation without identifiable uniforms, when there were U.S. troops in the
area who might mistake them for enemy fighters, was completely insane.
Identifying friend from foe was already hard enough, given the fact that the
Iraqi Army dressed in mismatched uniforms, sometimes throwing in elements
of civilian clothing. The insurgents sometimes wore a mix of paramilitary
gear, mismatched uniforms, and their favorite clothing—tracksuits with a
balaclava or kaffiyeh covering their faces. During my first deployment to
Iraq, my platoon had always worn black balaclavas, not only to protect our
identities but also because they had a psychologically intimidating effect on
the enemy. But in Ramadi, no one in Task Unit Bruiser wore balaclavas or
anything that covered their faces. A covered face meant terrorist, and no one
wanted to be mistaken for a terrorist in this environment. It could result in an
American bullet to the head.
Among all this radio traffic, a call came from the overwatch element.
“We’ve got movement,” the radioman from the overwatch whispered.
Leif, his AOIC, and I stood up and moved closer to listen to the radio.
“Four to six military-age males, moving tactically,” the radioman
described.
“Do you have PID?” I asked. This was a difficult question. PID meant
“positive identification”—I was asking if the element could identify if the
people they were seeing were friendly or hostile.
“Stand by,” the radioman passed. In the SEAL Teams, “stand by” has
many meanings, based on how it is used and the tone of the voice. It can
mean “Wait a second.” Or it can mean “Don’t move.” It can mean “Don’t
push me any further.” It can also mean “I don’t know, let me find out.”
Additionally, it can mean “Brace for impact, something bad is about to
happen.”
The tone in the radioman’s voice was a combination of “I don’t know, let
me find out” and “Brace for impact, something bad is about to happen.”
Leif and I looked at each other. I nodded to Leif, and he knew what I was
thinking. Then he nodded to his AOIC and they grabbed their helmets,
hustled outside, and assembled the troops, telling them to gear up and load
the vehicles.
I then passed a statement that the overwatch commander didn’t expect:
“Do not engage unless you confirm an actual hostile act. There could be
friendlies in the area.”
“What?” the overwatch element leader questioned. This was highly
unusual.
“There could be friendlies in the area that have not coordinated with us.
And they might be dressed in indigenous clothing,” I told him.
“Seriously?” the overwatch element leader responded, his frustration
coming through even clearer than his radio signal.
“Seriously. Pass the word,” I replied solemnly.
This was a very bad situation. Combat is by nature confusing. It is
impossible to know and understand the dynamics of everything that happens
on the battlefield. This is classically known as “the fog of war.”1 The fog is
real. Differing reports, differing opinions, differing perceptions, time lags to
receive and process information, weather conditions, darkness, terrain, enemy
feints and maneuvers, friendly forces moving and reacting—the chaos and
uncertainty add up and paint a picture that is foggy at best. When I ran the
training for the West Coast SEAL Teams, one of the lessons I regularly
taught was that the most important piece of information you could have on
the battlefield is the knowledge of where you are. Without that, nothing else
matters. The next most important piece of information is where other friendly
forces are located. Only then does it matter where the enemy is; without
knowing where one’s own unit is and without knowing where other friendly
units are, it is nearly impossible to engage the enemy.
In the scenario unfolding, although the overwatch knew exactly where
they were, where the assault force was, and where other 1/109th Infantry
units were located, they weren’t sure now if there were other friendly units in
the area—nor in this case would they be able to positively identify them. It
wasn’t good.
Tense minutes passed. The assault force had loaded into the vehicles and
stood by waiting for the word. Then, without any other prior warning, gunfire
erupted from the area of the overwatch. Tracers cut through the sky.
I did not know what was happening. I wasn’t sure who was shooting at
whom. I asked for a status from the radioman on the overwatch team.
Nothing.
Was the overwatch engaging insurgents? Could there be a shootout
between insurgents and the local townspeople? Was the overwatch team
compromised and under attack? Was the “indigenously dressed” coalition
unit there? Was this a blue-on-blue fratricide happening? I simply could not
know. The only thing I knew was what we had planned and rehearsed during
the mission planning: if the overwatch got compromised, the assault force
would roll in “hard,” meaning we would drive vehicles right into the target
area (normally they would stop several hundred meters away and the assault
force would foot patrol in) and “lock down,” or set security on the main road
that ran through the village. I also knew that if there were insurgents in the
village and we gave them too much time, they would either coordinate their
defenses and prepare to fight, or run away—neither of which would be good
for the assault force. So despite the uncertainty of the situation, I went with
the default mode: I got aggressive.
I ran out to the vehicles, loaded with SEALs and ready to roll, jumped into
the command vehicle, keyed the mic on my radio, and said, “Execute,
execute, execute. We are rolling to Route Duster [the main road in the
village] and locking it down.”
The lead navigator gave his command on the radio: “Rolling.”
The vehicles shifted into gear and started out rapidly down the road
toward the village, toward the gunfire, toward the uncertainty.
As the assault force rolled in, the shooting continued but tapered off as our
vehicles approached. Although there was a lot of uncertainty in the situation,
there were some things that were very well known. The assault force knew
where the overwatch was; Leif and his AOIC had gone over that info with
everyone. We had also told them that there were possible friendlies in the
area—which made everyone nervous and extremely cautious about shooting.
After a few short minutes, the assault force arrived on the road in the
middle of the village, came to a halt, and set security. The overwatch had
stopped shooting but was positively marking their position so we knew where
they were.
“Overwatch: What do you got?” I asked on the radio.
“We had PID on armed military-age males by the river, maneuvering to
attack. We engaged,” the element leader responded.
“Any enemy movement in the village?” I asked.
“Negative,” he answered.
“Roger. Commence assault,” I said, staying in our default: aggressive
mode. With that, the assault force dismounted, set a cordon on the village,
and began a systematic clearance building by building and then through Mav
Market, stall by stall. Although the enemy had clearly been alerted, they had
not had time to react. As the assault force cleared the village and the
marketplace, they found and detained a number of suspected insurgents, who
were still dazed from sleep when they were captured. We also discovered a
cache of enemy weapons that we destroyed. Despite the confusion and
uncertainty during the operation, decisiveness and aggressive action won.
* * *
We expected our SEALs to operate with an aggressive mind-set. We
expected them to lean forward, maneuver quickly, see opportunities, and
capitalize upon them—to aggressively execute to solve problems, overcome
obstacles, accomplish the mission, and win.
But of course there is a dichotomy with being aggressive that must be
balanced: aggression is not always the answer. Aggression must be balanced
with logic and detailed analysis of risk versus reward.
In Ramadi, Task Unit Bruiser was honored to support the fifty-six
hundred U.S. troops—Soldiers, Marines, Sailors, and Airmen—of the U.S.
Army’s Ready First Brigade Combat Team of the 1st Armored Division in
their efforts to implement the Seize, Clear, Hold, Build strategy and take back
the city of Ramadi from insurgents. We formed an exceptional working
relationship with the Army and Marine leaders and the men in the platoons,
companies, and battalions they commanded. Our relationships were based on
trust and mutual respect. The Ready First Brigade commander, a U.S. Army
colonel, was an extraordinary leader—aggressive, smart, and with amazing
strategic vision. He was a true professional and one of the finest leaders with
whom I had the honor to serve. When the brigade commander asked for
support, Task Unit Bruiser delivered. We were proud to send in our SEALs
and Iraqi soldiers as the lead element of troops on the ground for almost
every major combat operation of the Seize, Clear, Hold, Build strategy to
emplace U.S. combat outposts in the most dangerous, volatile neighborhoods
of the city.
Several months into the deployment, at one of the brigade operation
meetings on Camp Ramadi I attended, the brigade commander asked me if
our SEALs could help eliminate the threat of enemy mortar teams in an area
north of the city called “C-Lake.” The name derived from the area’s primary
feature, an oxbow lake, formed from the Euphrates River, that was shaped
like a “C.” It was a relatively rural area that covered about ten square miles
with open fields along the river, scattered clusters of houses, and small,
unpaved country roads.
But it was also an area utilized by insurgents to launch mortar attacks on
U.S. positions. Almost every day, insurgents lobbed mortars at U.S. troops
stationed on Camp Ramadi and other nearby bases. Mortars hit our camp on
Sharkbase as well, though less frequently. American radar technology could
track the mortars’ trajectory and deduce the point of origin from where they
were launched. Many of the mortars that hit Camp Ramadi came from the C-
Lake area. Unfortunately, the enemy understood that we could identify the
point of origin of their mortars, so they had modified their tactics. Instead of
firing the mortars from one specific location, they constantly moved around
the entire area. Furthermore, when the insurgents fired mortars, they rapidly
fired only one, two, or three rounds at a time in a matter of seconds, then
quickly packed up the mortar tube and disappeared. It was an effective tactic
that was difficult to counter.
On top of the mortar attacks, the insurgents were active throughout the C-
Lake area emplacing large IEDs in the roads. There were limited roads in the
area, which channelized access for U.S. convoys into a small number of
routes that insurgents could target. With the open terrain around the roads,
enemy fighters could observe U.S. Humvees from long distances and
detonate the roadside bombs via radio control from unseen locations
hundreds of meters away. The IEDs in C-Lake had taken a deadly toll in
recent weeks, with multiple Humvees destroyed and several U.S. Army
Soldiers killed.
Since Task Unit Bruiser had been successful in eliminating enemy mortar
teams and IED emplacers2 in other areas of Ramadi, it seemed logical we
could help in C-Lake. When the brigade commander asked if we could help
out in the area, I told him I would take a look and determine how we could
best support the mission. I certainly wanted to help the Ready First Brigade
handle the situation, eliminate threats, and ensure more U.S. troops went
home to their families. We also wanted to kill enemy fighters responsible for
the attacks and make them pay for the deaths of our brother Soldiers who had
been killed in the IED attacks. I brought back the request to Leif and Charlie
Platoon, and we talked through it. Leif, his platoon chief, Tony, and the rest
of Charlie Platoon were always eager to close with and destroy the enemy. So
they started analyzing the intelligence, looking at maps of the area, and
talking with the Soldiers who had operated around C-Lake. They examined,
with the rest of Charlie Platoon and the Task Unit Bruiser intelligence
department, the best possible courses of action to accomplish the mission.
Over the next several days, Charlie Platoon launched on other operations
in different areas of the city. But upon their return to base, they resumed
mission planning for the C-Lake operation. Then, after several days of careful
analysis, Leif came to my office to discuss the results of their analysis.
“I don’t know about this one, Jocko,” he said with a somewhat
disappointed look on his face.
“What don’t you know?” I asked him.
“The C-Lake operation is a tough one,” he replied. “I’m not sure it makes
sense.”
“Okay. Talk me through it,” I said.
At this point Leif and I walked over to a detailed map of C-Lake hanging
on the wall. First, we marked the known points of origin from where all the
mortar attacks had been launched. No two mortar attacks had come from the
same location. Second, there was no discernible pattern to the locations.
Finally, there weren’t any common traits in the terrain from which the
mortars had been fired—some had been fired from roads, some from fields,
some from the vicinity of houses or buildings, some in the open, some in
areas with foliage for camouflage, some in areas with no camouflage at all.
There was no pattern whatsoever that would enable us to position our sniper
teams in the right location to observe and engage the enemy mortar teams.
Next, Leif pointed out where the IED strikes had taken place. Because the
area was bordered by the Euphrates River and crisscrossed with canals, the
means to reach the area by vehicle was limited, with only one major road as
our access in and out of the area. With the wide-open and sparse terrain, there
were no good vantage points from which we could set up our sniper
overwatch positions that would allow us a long access look down the main
road to observe and engage IED emplacers. To do that, we would have to
expose ourselves out in the open, giving away our position and opening us up
for enemy attack. When we were attacked, if we needed help, the only route
that U.S. vehicles could utilize to get to us was this main road, where the
threat of IED attack was extremely high. It would put the U.S. Army units
responding to help us at serious risk—in fact, the Quick Reaction Force
might not be able to get to us at all. Of course, the same IEDs would also put
our SEALs and Iraqi soldiers riding in the vehicles on the transit in and out of
the area at serious risk as well.
“The bottom line is this,” Leif concluded. “Any counter-mortar and
counter-IED operations in the area of C-Lake will have a very low probability
of success. But the threat to our SEALs and Iraqi soldiers conducting the
operation and the U.S. Army troops supporting us will be extremely high.”
It was clear Leif, Tony, and the rest of his Charlie Platoon leaders had
done their homework on this. I certainly knew they weren’t risk averse, as
they had proven time and again in the months we’d been in Ramadi. I knew
they were eager to put as many enemy insurgent fighters in the dirt as they
possibly could, in order to protect brave American Soldiers and Marines from
deadly enemy attacks. But I understood from their analysis that there was
absolutely no way to predict where an attack would come from, which meant
we would be setting up an overwatch in a completely random position—
basically searching for a needle in a haystack. Even if we knew where to set
up, with so few areas to provide good cover and concealment, the enemy
wouldn’t have a hard time finding us. Finally, with no ability to overwatch
the full length of the main road, we wouldn’t even be able to fully prevent
IEDs from being planted.
“With all that stacked against us,” Leif continued, “and as much as we’d
love to support the brigade commander’s request, I’m just not sure this makes
sense. The risk isn’t worth the reward.”
He was right. As much as we wanted to execute the operation, take the
fight to the enemy, and kill the enemy mortar and IED teams in C-Lake, the
operation didn’t make sense.
“Yep, you’re right,” I agreed. “High risk to us and our support with a low
probability of reward. I’ll talk to the brigade commander.”
I held the highest respect and admiration for the brigade commander. He
and his staff put tremendous faith and trust in us and appreciated the risks we
took continuously to cover his Soldiers and Marines from the high ground
with our sniper overwatch positions. I also recognized that in this instance, he
was overestimating our capability to eliminate the mortar and IED attacks in
C-Lake. That night, I drove across the base and explained the situation to the
brigade commander. He completely understood, and we discussed some
alternative strategies to solve the problem, like using some persistent air
coverage or establishing a permanent coalition presence in the area—a series
of checkpoints or combat outposts that could keep things under control. The
brigade commander knew, as I did, that while being aggressive is a great
default attitude to have, it still must be balanced with caution and careful
consideration to ensure it is not a case of excessive risk with limited reward.
Principle
Problems aren’t going to solve themselves—a leader must get aggressive and
take action to solve them and implement a solution. Being too passive and
waiting for a solution to appear often enables a problem to escalate and get
out of control. The enemy isn’t going to back off—the leader must get
aggressive and put the enemy in check. The good deal isn’t going to deliver
itself to a company—the leader has to go out and make a good deal happen.
Changes and new methodologies in a team aren’t going to implement
themselves—leaders need to aggressively implement them.
An aggressive mind-set should be the default setting of any leader.
Default: Aggressive. This means that the best leaders, the best teams, don’t
wait to act. Instead, understanding the strategic vision (or commander’s
intent), they aggressively execute to overcome obstacles, capitalize on
immediate opportunities, accomplish the mission, and win.
Rather than passively waiting to be told what to do, Default: Aggressive
leaders proactively seek out ways to further the strategic mission. They
understand the commander’s intent, and where they have the authority to do
so, they execute. For decisions that are beyond their pay grade or above their
authority, Default: Aggressive leaders still make a recommendation up the
chain of command to solve problems and execute key tasks to achieve
strategic victory. In SEAL platoons and task units, we expect this from
leaders at every level, right down to the frontline trooper in charge of just
himself and his small piece of the mission. But this mentality is crucial to any
leader, in any team or organization. It is just as critical to success in business
as on the battlefield.
“Aggressive” means proactive. It doesn’t mean that leaders can get angry,
lose their temper, or be aggressive toward their people. A leader must always
deal professionally with subordinates on the team, peers, leaders up the chain
of command, customers or clients, and personnel in supporting roles outside
the immediate team. Speaking angrily to others is ineffective. Losing your
temper is a sign of weakness. The aggression that wins on the battlefield, in
business, or in life is directed not toward people but toward solving problems,
achieving goals, and accomplishing the mission.
It is also critical to balance aggression with careful thought and analysis to
make sure that risks have been assessed and mitigated. The dichotomy with
the Default: Aggressive mind-set is that sometimes hesitation allows a leader
to further understand a situation so that he or she can react properly to it.
Rather than immediately respond to enemy fire, sometimes the prudent
decision is to wait and see how it develops. Is it a simple reconnaissance by
fire? Is it a feint by the enemy, meant to distract from the real attack? Is the
enemy simply trying to lure you into a confined area, where they have a
superior force waiting to ambush? A careful moment of consideration might
reveal the enemy’s true intentions. To be overly aggressive, without critical
thinking, is to be reckless. That can lead the team into disaster and put the
greater mission in peril. To disregard prudent counsel when someone with
experience urges caution, to dismiss significant threats, or to fail to plan for
likely contingencies is foolhardy. It is bad leadership.
A chief contributing factor to recklessness comes from what military
historians have long referred to as “the disease of victory.” This disease takes
place when a few battlefield successes produce an overconfidence in a team’s
own tactical prowess while underestimating the capabilities of its enemy or
competitor. This is a problem not just for combat leaders but for leaders and
teams anywhere, in any arena, throughout the business world and the civilian
sector.
It is a leader’s duty to fight against this victory disease so that the team,
despite its success, never gets complacent. The risk in any action must be
carefully weighed against the potential rewards of mission success. And of
course, to counter that thought, the cost of inaction must be weighed as well.
As aggressive as leaders must be, leaders must be cautious that they are
not “running to their deaths” simply because their instinct is to take action.
The dichotomy between aggression and caution must be balanced. So be
aggressive, but never reckless.
Application to Business
“I am going to build the team now so we are ready to handle the growth that
will come in the next eighteen to twenty-four months,” the CEO told me with
great enthusiasm. She was the owner of a small business set for rapid
expansion. The CEO had bought the business from the former owner, who
had kept it on cruise control for the past five years as he eased into
retirement.
Since taking over the business, the new CEO had been getting aggressive
—and getting customers. She was working hard and driving her team to do
the same. The company was poised for some really big growth in the next
couple of years. She knew she needed help with that growth and had brought
in Echelon Front to coach her and provide leadership training for her team. It
certainly seemed she and her company were on the right track.
However, there were tough obstacles in the CEO’s path. First, she had
spent most of her personal capital to purchase the company from the previous
owner, who had left the business with little cash flow. So between her
personal finances and the company’s weak balance sheet, there wasn’t much
operating capital.
Traditional business problems were also present. As with most sales
scenarios, this custom manufacturing business had many sales leads that
needed follow-up, and only a small percentage of those converted into actual
sales. The business had a particularly long turn time from orders placed until
payment was received. This included designing, testing, approval, and
manufacturing—all of which included transport lag times to and from Asia,
where the manufacturing took place. That meant very long and capital-
intensive delays between when deals were signed and when final payments
were made by the clients.
The CEO continued rattling off her plan to me: “I can see where we are
headed right now. The number of leads we are getting, the referrals are
increasing, the closing rate for the team is going up. We are going to explode
next year and I want the team to be more than ready. Default: Aggressive,
right?” she asked me, referring to the combat leadership principle I had
discussed with her and her team a few days before.
“Absolutely,” I replied. “Default: Aggressive!”
I liked that attitude and always had. That afternoon, she explained the plan
to me in more detail, the positions she was duplicating, new positions she was
creating, and how she was going to structure the company. It was impressive.
She had a great vision of where the company was going and the immense
capacity it was going to have to execute orders and deliver results on par with
some of her biggest competitors.
In order to house the expanding team, she was looking at new locations
for the business—or, at a minimum, expanding her current location to include
one of the adjacent spaces. However, she was leaning toward moving to a
new location more professional in appearance. The company’s current
location was run-down from years of declining business, and the building
didn’t come across as a first-class operation. The CEO knew the value of first
impressions and was determined to change that.
“The new location has potential for even more growth,” she explained,
“which I know we are going to need!”
Hearing this aggressive mind-set was like music to my ears, and the
CEO’s dynamic and enthusiastic attitude had me completely on board.
“Outstanding,” I told her, and then I doubled down on this attitude: “If
you set up the right groundwork, infrastructure, and put the right people in
place now—you will be ready to take over the world next year.”
At that point, filled with fervor and moxie, we literally high-fived each
other like a couple of high school kids who had just won the state basketball
championship.
What a great way to end the meeting. I walked out of the building that day
looking forward to our next meeting the following week.
But as I drove to the airport for the flight home, I sobered up from the
excitement and realized I was actually pretty emotional about the company:
good emotion, but too much emotion. I realized I was caught up in the
owner’s enthusiasm and relishing her aggressive mind-set. For that very
reason—for the CEO’s long-term good and the good of the company—I
needed to check myself.
When I got home that night, I sent her an e-mail thanking her for the great
meeting. I praised her attitude but then tapered those thoughts. I told her that
before she moved forward with any big decisions, we should do a serious and
unemotional analysis of the financials, a conservative view of operating
capital and growth potential, and forecast how the company’s overhead
would increase in the near and long term. I asked her to have her team put
together these numbers for our meeting next week so we could discuss them.
When I met with her the following week, she was still enthusiastic, which
was great to see. But I had to keep myself in check. I had to make sure I
didn’t get caught up in enthusiasm and the attitude of aggressiveness. I had to
ensure that she wasn’t being overly aggressive—even reckless.
“I think we are still good to move forward,” the CEO said, leading me into
her office, where her chief financial officer (CFO) and human resources
director were waiting.
“Great,” I replied. “Let’s look at the numbers.”
The CFO presented a few slides explaining the company’s financial
outlook. When it came to the bottom line, it was tight—too tight for me to
feel comfortable. But perhaps doable.
Then I noticed one word on the predictive sales chart: “Stretch.”
“I see you have ‘Stretch’ written there. Are these your stretch goals?” I
asked the CEO.
She stumbled a bit, then confirmed, “Well, they are—kind of—but as we
expand our sales force, we should be able to hit them.”
“You mean a sales force that you haven’t hired, haven’t tested, haven’t
trained, and who haven’t been proven yet?” I asked, growing concerned.
“Well, not yet, but…,” she replied, fading off.
“We both know that none of those are easy with salespeople,” I said. “Not
the hiring, not the training, and certainly not the proving. New salespeople
are hit-and-miss in every industry. And if you are looking at accomplishing
your stretch goals based on a stretch sales force, you might have some major
issues.”
“Well, if it takes a little longer to get there, we can just take a little
longer,” the CEO pushed back. “We have time.”
“Are you sure?” I asked. “Bring up the budget again, will you?” I said to
the CFO.
He put the budget slides up on the screen. I took a look in greater detail
this time.
“Your stretch goals barely cover your overhead—and as overhead goes
up, it won’t get any better,” I observed.
“But we need to be positioned to dominate next year,” the CEO stated,
subconsciously appealing to my affinity for being aggressively prepared. I
had to check myself—and her.
“I get that,” I responded. “But look. Without achieving stretch goals, in
six months, you won’t break even. As you are sitting waiting for payments to
come through, you’ll have burned through your operating capital. Now, you
could go and get a loan or look for investors, but that is a short-term sacrifice
for which you will never stop paying. And if the trend continues without any
external money, in a year, you will be upside down. In eighteen months, you
could easily be in a position vulnerable to some really bad investor deals, or a
forced buyout—or even worse: bankruptcy.”
“But what if I do make the goals and then we aren’t ready?” the CEO
asked. “I thought I needed to be aggressive?”
“Well … you do need to be ready and you do need to be aggressive. But
being aggressive doesn’t mean throwing caution to the wind. It doesn’t mean
taking catastrophic risk that can and should be mitigated. And it doesn’t mean
relying on unrealistic stretch goals. You need to get aggressive with risk
mitigation and with securing long-term success for the company. You need to
get aggressive with you maintaining full control and ownership of the
company. You need to get aggressive with budgeting and contingency
planning. That’s what you need to get aggressive with. Otherwise, you’re
putting yourself, your hard work, your team, and your company at risk.”
The CEO nodded, beginning to understand where I was coming from.
“Look,” I continued, “you know how when I explained Default:
Aggressive to your leadership team the other day, I explained in detail that I
didn’t mean getting aggressive toward your people? And how screaming and
shouting as a leader wasn’t the kind of aggression that helps you lead? Of
course, there are times when you have to be firm with people, but it has to be
balanced. Aggression is a great attribute, but it can spin out of control. This is
a similar situation. Getting aggressive here and growing your overhead isn’t
going to help you or the company. It is just going to leave you exposed and
vulnerable to risk. So. Let’s reset, take a look at the end state you are trying
to achieve, and come up with a measured, balanced way to get there. Then
create a plan that has some embedded checkpoints, triggers, and branch plans
so that the risks you take are controlled, calculated, and also provide some
exit strategies in case things don’t go the way you expect them to.”
The CEO nodded and smiled. “I guess I just like being aggressive a little
too much. But yes. This makes sense. There is definitely a way to get this
done with less risk and more control.”
With that, we went to work. We formulated a plan that slowly increased
infrastructure and support as the sales team not only grew but proved itself
with actual deals closed. The office move was pulled out of the plan, and
even the expansion of the existing office was put off until the current space
was truly overflowing. She also decided to cut some other expenses: she
downsized the warehouse for storing product that wasn’t being used to
capacity and decided to eliminate one of the three account managers who
hadn’t built much business yet. When she briefed me on the changes to the
plan, I smiled.
“I like it,” I told her.
“I do too,” the CEO admitted. “And it is a good way to be aggressive:
instead of getting aggressive in preparing for an unknown future, I got
aggressive cutting costs and managing my P & L3.
“And you know what?” she asked me.
“What’s that?” I asked.
“It still felt good,” she replied, happy she was able to direct her aggressive
mind-set to lead her company by focusing that attitude in the right direction
and balancing aggression with clear, unemotional thought and sensible risk
mitigation.
As lead sniper and an enlisted leader for Task Unit Bruiser’s Delta Platoon, J. P. Dinnell also served as
point man, the most hazardous, first in line position in the patrol, responsible for identifying forward
threats and successfully navigating the team to their target or destination. Delta was attacked and
engaged by enemy fighters on a vast majority of the patrols they conducted during this deployment.
Here, J.P. courageously leads Delta Platoon and their Iraqi soldiers through the streets after a sniper
overwatch mission in eastern Ramadi. Even after grueling hours in the Iraqi heat under constant enemy
attack, J.P. maintains his discipline: weapon at the ready with eyes scanning for threats.
(Photo courtesy of Samuel Peterson)
CHAPTER 7
Disciplined, Not Rigid
Jocko Willink
Principle
While “Discipline Equals Freedom” is a powerful tool for both personal and
team development, excessive discipline can stifle free thinking in team
leaders and team members. Disciplined standard operating procedures,
repeatable processes, and consistent methodologies are helpful in any
organization. The more discipline a team exercises, the more freedom that
team will have to maneuver by implementing small adjustments to existing
plans. When facing a mission or a task, instead of having to craft a plan from
scratch, a team can follow standard operating procedures for the bulk of the
plan. As SEALs, we had SOPs for just about everything we did: the way we
lined up and loaded our vehicles, our vehicle and foot patrol formations, the
methodologies we used to clear buildings, the way we handled prisoners and
dealt with wounded SEALs—the list goes on and on. But those SOPs didn’t
constrain us on the battlefield. On the contrary, they gave us freedom. The
disciplined SOPs were a line to deviate from, and we had the freedom to act
quickly based on those procedures.
But there must be balance. In some organizations, both in the military and
in the civilian sector, there are leaders who put too many standard operating
procedures in place. They create such strict processes that they actually
inhibit their subordinate leaders’ willingness—and ability—to think. This
may adversely impact the team’s performance and become a detriment to the
mission, preventing effective leadership at every level of the organization.
Disciplined procedures must be balanced with the ability to apply
common sense to an issue, with the power to break with SOPs when
necessary, with the freedom to think about alternative solutions, apply new
ideas, and make adjustments to processes based on the reality of what is
actually happening. If discipline is too strict, team members cannot make
adjustments, cannot adapt, and cannot use their most precious asset—their
brains—to quickly develop customized solutions to unique problems for
which the standard solution might not work.
And when taken to an extreme, too much discipline—too many processes
and too many standard procedures—completely inhibits and stifles the
initiative of subordinates. Instead of stepping up and making necessary
changes, leaders confined to strict procedures will simply follow the
procedures even when those procedures are obviously leading to failure.
So as a leader it is critical to balance the strict discipline of standard
procedures with the freedom to adapt, adjust, and maneuver to do what is best
to support the overarching commander’s intent and achieve victory. For
leaders, in combat, business, and life, be disciplined, but not rigid.
Application to Business
The VP of sales was a force to be reckoned with. She was aggressive, smart,
and experienced. Having risen through the ranks, she knew the business
inside and out. The company’s products were solid and provided a true
benefit to customers.
But there was trouble in paradise: declining sales for four straight months.
The CEO decided they needed some help and reached out to Echelon Front to
assess and provide guidance. As soon as I arrived, I was impressed by the VP
of sales, but I could also sense her frustration.
“What’s been going on?” I asked her.
“Not enough!” she replied. “Not even close!” She was smiling, but she
wasn’t kidding.
“So I have been told,” I said. “What do you think is going on?”
She thought for a minute, then replied.
“Look,” she answered, “I’m not a hundred percent sure. Last year was
terrific. We couldn’t seem to do any wrong. All my regional managers were
driving their salespeople hard—training them well and putting up great
numbers. The frontline salespeople themselves were on fire.”
“Well, that sounds good,” I told her.
“It was good,” she continued. “Then we hit November—usually a hard
month for us—along with December. Our product is practical: home safety,
security, and efficiency—not exactly something people ask Santa for.”
“Not exactly,” I agreed.
“We wanted to maintain sales and profits through that time period, so we
got really aggressive as a leadership team—Default: Aggressive, as you like
to say,” the VP continued.
I laughed, recognizing that she understood the fundamental concepts I
often spoke about.
“That’s awesome,” I told her. “How exactly did you get aggressive?”
“We got aggressive across the board,” she replied. “We increased our
training for our salespeople. Stepped up our monitoring of their sales calls.
We tightened the pricing model to increase margin, and we started tracking—
and really driving—the number of outgoing calls that each salesperson made
every day.”
“And that didn’t have an impact?” I asked.
“Not the impact that we wanted it to have,” she said. “I mean, it’s hard to
say. This November wasn’t as bad as last November, but it wasn’t near where
we wanted it to be.”
“So then what did you do?” I asked.
“We doubled down,” the VP said.
“You doubled down? On what?” I inquired.
“On everything,” she admitted. “We improved our scripts and trained
even harder on them. We had our salespeople reciting their scripts perfectly.
They were all nailing it. We went even harder on our pricing to make sure
that every deal we made maximized margin. And we increased the number of
calls each salesperson was required to make. We cranked up the discipline
across the entire sales force,” she explained.
“And?” I asked.
“And nothing,” she said.
“Nothing?” I asked, puzzled.
“Nothing,” the VP declared. “This December was actually worse than last
year. And then, in January, things got even worse. February and March
continued down, and April was one of our worst months in three years—and
three years ago we were half the size we are now.
“It is bad,” she said soberly. “And the market is good. Our competitors are
doing fine, but we are losing market share. And yet our product is truly better
than theirs. It just doesn’t make any sense.”
“No, it sure doesn’t,” I agreed. “Let me do some digging.”
Frankly, I was a little worried that I might not be able to figure this one
out.
I spent the next week talking with the seven regional managers who led
the sales teams. They were located in two centers, and each had sales teams
of five to fifteen salespeople. The salespeople were phone pounders—call
center grinders following leads from the Internet, print ads, and mailers. They
were relatively young, but also motivated. Some of them had made solid six-
figure incomes from their commissions over the past several years. The
regional managers—so called because their salespeople worked particular
regions of the country—were all good people too. All of them except one had
come up through the ranks of the call center. The one who hadn’t was
previously a customer relations representative in the field before transitioning
in pursuit of a higher income. So they all knew the business, and they knew it
well, from their own experience and from the tutelage of the VP of sales.
I drilled down into the call centers to learn more. At one call center, I
brought the four regional managers together in a meeting for some fact-
finding.
“What do you think is going on?” I asked them plainly.
“No idea,” one of them said.
“None?” I asked.
“Not really,” another one replied.
“Any idea at all?” I asked again, likely sounding pretty desperate.
The group sat quietly for a little while. Finally, one of the managers spoke
up.
“We have had many ideas. And we’ve hit every sales driver that we know
of,” the regional manager said. “We thought maybe our salespeople weren’t
introducing the product right or overcoming objections effectively, so we
really nailed down the scripting and made it bulletproof. And they all know it
cold and know not to deviate from it. Then we saw they were giving away
pricing too easily; they were giving discounts that they didn’t have to and we
were losing margins. So we tightened that up too. They have much less
leeway in the pricing now. And we have increased the number of outgoing
calls they have to make—and they are doing it. They are making about thirty
percent more calls every day. They are hammering everything, but we are
still just losing traction.”
“Everyone?” I asked. “Every salesperson is going backward?”
“Yes. Every one of them,” another manager chimed in. “And look—we
get Extreme Ownership, we’ve read the book, but I’ll tell you I think we need
some new product features … we need to up our game from the technology
perspective.”
“But your VP of sales told me your product is legitimately better than any
of your competitors,” I countered.
“It is,” the manager said. “But there’s nothing new. We need something
new to sell—that’s what we need. I’m telling you, our sales force can’t do
much more than what they are doing. They are like machines out on that floor
right now.”
I nodded. Something wasn’t adding up. I couldn’t quite understand what it
was. “Alright,” I told them. “Let me see what I can figure out.…”
The next day, I spent time on the front lines with the actual salespeople
who made the calls. I listened in on their calls and asked them some
questions. Each salesperson I listened to sounded incredibly professional and
polished. Their words were scripted, but they said them so naturally that you
could barely notice they were all saying the exact same thing. At first, I was
impressed. Really impressed. It seemed as if each one of these salespeople
deserved an Academy Award for acting.
But the Academy Award was about the only thing they were winning. I
listened as salesperson after salesperson got shot down and failed to close a
deal. Their introductions were smooth, but they weren’t getting any traction.
When they did get some interest from a potential client, most weren’t able to
get through the client’s objections even when giving the proper scripted
responses. And those who finally did get through the objections to set up a
sale had a really hard time discussing pricing to close the deal. The whole
morning, I saw only three deals get closed.
Finally, at noon I offered to take a few of them to lunch. We went to a
burger joint, ordered our food, and sat down to wait for it.
“So, what is going on?” I asked, opening the conversation. “You all do
such a professional job—but sales are down. Any ideas?”
“I wish I knew!” said one of the younger salespeople. “This is killing me.
I might not even be able to continue to work here if I don’t start landing some
sales.”
“I’m in the same boat,” another chimed in. “Something has got to change
or I won’t make it.”
Everyone in the group shook their heads.
“What are you doing differently now from where you were six months
ago?” I asked.
“I don’t think it is anything we are doing—we have just been getting
better,” a salesperson named Jonathan said passionately. “We are better. We
are tighter with our scripts and our pricing and how we overcome objections.
We are getting after it. We are like sales machines. But things are just going
backward.”
Machines—this was the second time I had heard the sales team referred to
as “machines.” I noticed it, but it still didn’t make sense to me.
“If you are doing everything perfectly, then what are you doing wrong?” I
asked.
The table sat quiet for a minute. Finally, one of the most senior
salespeople, Vijay, spoke up. “That’s what we are doing wrong.”
“What?” I asked.
“That,” he said. “We are doing everything perfectly, like machines, like
robots.”
Boom. It hit me. Right there—Vijay was right.
“Too perfect? What do you mean by that?” asked one of the other
salespeople.
I listened to Vijay intently to see if he was saying what I was thinking.
“I mean we do everything too perfectly. We read the script. We answer
the questions. We overcome objections. We stick to the pricing model. Let
me ask you this: When was the last time you made a person laugh on the
other end of the phone?” Vijay questioned the group.
Nothing but blank faces from the whole team. Their silence made the
answer obvious. No one had gotten a laugh from a potential client in a long
time.
“So then what kind of connection are you making with them?” I asked.
“Exactly,” Vijay said. “None.”
“Is it possible that in the pursuit of perfection, you all have become too
perfect? You have become machines—robots?” I asked.
“And we all know what you do with a robo sales call. Click—you hang
up,” Vijay said.
He was right. That was it. In trying to boost sales, the leadership team had
done what they thought was right. They went Default: Aggressive to
implement highly disciplined standard operating procedures. And in doing so,
they went too far and took away the freedom of their salespeople to adapt on
the front lines. Instead of adapting to a potential customer’s reaction and
making some kind of connection, the salespeople were stuck giving the same
script over and over and over again. As good as they were at reading the
script and as convincing as they sounded, it didn’t matter if they couldn’t
have a real conversation with the potential client.
And that wasn’t the only problem. As I dug down, I found other issues.
Because flexibility had been eliminated from the pricing structure, the
frontline salespeople couldn’t do anything to close deals that had potential
but needed a little nudge to get them over the line. Without the ability to offer
a special discount or the power to maneuver on price in any way, the
salespeople often had to let interested customers walk.
Finally, with the minimum number of calls per day increased and strictly
enforced, the salespeople gave up too easily during their calls. If they got one
indication that they weren’t going to get a deal, they would move on to the
next call so they could meet the minimum number of calls required and not
be penalized. This was the opposite of what they explained worked better:
taking time with a potential client to explain details and build a relationship,
thereby increasing the possibility of closing the sale.
With this feedback and information, I went back to the VP of sales and
talked her through the problem and the solution.
“Too much discipline?!” she asked with a big smile on her face. “I never
thought I’d hear you say that, Jocko!”
“I don’t say it too often,” I explained, knowing I deserved some ribbing
since I touted the benefits of discipline with such regularity. “Because usually
discipline is what is lacking. But here, the balance has shifted too far in the
other direction. The frontline troops don’t have the freedom to make things
happen, to maneuver on the battlefield, to adjust and adapt to the situation on
the ground—or in this case to the situation on the phone. They aren’t making
any connections with potential clients. They are responding like robots with
no power to offer any pricing concessions to a tough prospect, and with the
strictly enforced minimum calls they are required to make, they are being
even more transactional on their calls—exactly what they shouldn’t be.
You’re a master salesperson: how would it impact you if you had to stay on
script one hundred percent of the time?” I asked.
She was quiet for a moment as the reality settled in.
“It would be very hard to close sales,” she admitted, “and I should have
known that. Every salesperson is different, and so is every customer—and
every call. The ability to connect over the phone is paramount. And I took
that ability away from them. It’s my fault, and I need to own it.”
I smiled. “Yes, you do,” I agreed. “That’s Extreme Ownership—and it
works not because you say you own it but because now you will take
ownership of solving the problem.”
“Yes, I will,” she said.
Over the next few days, we worked on a new plan and training program
that emphasized not reading a script but creating a connection with the
potential customer—the person—on the other end of the line. On top of that,
the company shifted its metrics. They began tracking not the number of
outbound calls but the total time spent on the phone with potential customers
to help drive good conversations that should translate into more sales.
Finally, they loosened the pricing structure, giving more freedom to the
salespeople to accommodate interested prospects and get deals closed.
The VP of sales rolled out the plan very quickly and saw the numbers
rapidly improve. Balance between discipline and freedom had been achieved
—for now—and things were back on track.
SEAL Team Seven Echo Platoon on a mounted patrol south of Baghdad in 2003. Speed and aggressive
posture kept the enemy from attacking … most of the time.
(Photo courtesy of Jocko Willink)
CHAPTER 8
Hold People Accountable, but Don’t Hold Their Hands
Jocko Willink
Principle
Accountability is an important tool that leaders must utilize. However, it
should not be the primary tool. It must be balanced with other leadership
tools, such as making sure people understand the why, empowering
subordinates, and trusting they will do the right thing without direct oversight
because they fully understand the importance of doing so.
Unfortunately, leaders often get the idea that accountability can solve
everything—and in a sense they are right. If a leader wants to ensure a
subordinate follows through with a task, the leader can inspect repeatedly to
confirm that the task gets done. With enough oversight, task completion can
achieve 100 percent success. This is why leaders often want to use
accountability to fix problems: it is the most obvious and simple method. The
leader tells a subordinate to carry out a task; the leader watches the
subordinate do the task; the leader inspects the task once it is complete. There
is almost no room for error.
Unfortunately, there is also almost no room for the leader to do anything
else besides monitor the progress of that specific subordinate in that specific
task. If there are multiple subordinates with multiple tasks, a leader very
quickly becomes physically incapable of inspecting them all. On top of that,
while focused down the chain of command and inward toward the team, the
leader will have no ability to look up and out—up toward senior leadership to
build relationships and influence strategic decisions and out toward the
strategic mission to anticipate future operations and understand
developments. Finally, when the leader is not present to provide immediate
oversight, the subordinate may or may not continue to properly execute a
particular task.
Instead of using accountability as the primary tool of leadership, leaders
should implement it as just one of many leadership tools. Instead of holding
people accountable, the leader has to lead. The leader must make sure the
team understands why. Make sure its members have ownership of their tasks
and the ability to make adjustments as needed. Make sure they know how
their task supports the overall strategic success of the mission. Make sure
they know how important their specific task is to the team and what the
consequences are for failure.
Now, this does not mean that accountability should never be used. In
Extreme Ownership, chapter 2, “No Bad Teams, Only Bad Leaders,” we
wrote that “when it comes to standards, as a leader, it’s not what you preach,
it’s what you tolerate.” It is imperative that leaders hold the line and uphold
the standards where it matters most. That is another dichotomy nested in
accountability: there are absolutely cases when accountability should and
must be used. If a subordinate is not performing to standard, despite
understanding why, despite knowing the impact on the mission, and despite
being given ownership, then a leader must hold the line. That method is
accountability. The leader must drill down and micromanage tasks in order to
get the subordinate on track. But the leader cannot stay there. The leader must
eventually give subordinates leeway to perform based on their own intrinsic
drive—not because they are being held accountable, and not based on the
micromanagement of the leader, but because they have a better understanding
of why.
And that is where balance must be found: use accountability as a tool
when needed, but don’t rely on it as the sole means of enforcement. A
reliance on heavy accountability consumes the time and focus of the leader
and inhibits the trust, growth, and development of subordinates.
Instead, balance accountability with educating the team and empowering
its members to maintain standards even without direct oversight from the top.
This is the hallmark of the highest-performing teams that dominate.
Application to Business
“They just won’t do what we tell them to do!” the national operations
manager told me. “They just don’t seem to care!”
The company had started using a new software program about three
months earlier to track their product as it was installed and utilized by the
customers, which consisted of medium- to large-size businesses. It was a
well-thought-out system, built on an existing platform that allowed
technicians in the field to input what equipment had been installed, the tests
that were completed, issues overcome, and shortfalls of the system. It also
interacted with the company’s customer relationship management system,
providing salespeople with information about the customers if they needed to
approach them about renewal or upgrades.
“What exactly is it that the field technicians won’t do?” I asked.
“They won’t use the system. They won’t enter the information. They show
up on-site with the customer to take care of an install or a troubleshooting
scenario, they do their work, then boom—that’s it. They enter the bare
minimum into the system, but no details.”
“What are the details they should be entering?” I asked.
“The details are critical—not for them, but for the follow-on,” the ops
manager said. “If something else goes wrong and another technician has to go
out and troubleshoot, it saves a lot of time and effort if they know what the
previous technician did. On top of that, the details really help our salespeople.
When they call to offer new services or a renewal of existing services, if they
don’t know what the customer has been through, they get blindsided. It
makes it seem as if no one at the company cares about the customer at all.
Try selling to someone that already thinks your company doesn’t care about
them.”
“I can see where that would be problematic,” I acknowledged. “So what
have you done to get them to do what they are supposed to do?”
“We put a whole bunch of accountability checks into place,” he said. “We
started with the technicians themselves. We told them they needed to fill in
the details. That barely had any impact. Next, we went to the team leaders.
We told them we wanted entries in every field of the software—and that we
would give bonuses based on the number of fields filled out.”
“And how did that work?” I asked.
“It cost us money but didn’t get us anywhere,” the ops manager replied.
“The technicians did as they were told: they filled out every field. But they
did so with worthless one- and two-word answers.”
“Ouch,” I said.
“Yeah. Ouch,” the ops manager agreed. “Next up were the regional
operations managers. We figured if we held them accountable they would
make it happen. So we told them if the technicians in their regions didn’t start
filling out all the fields—with legitimate details—we were going to drop their
volume bonuses by ten percent. We saw a little uptick after that for about two
weeks. Then, things went backward—back to where the technicians weren’t
filling out anything at all, not even a word in most of the fields.”
“Not good,” I commented.
“No. Not good at all,” the ops manager said. “Especially because we
reached pretty deep into our budget to have this new software designed, built,
and implemented.”
“Alright,” I declared. “Let me go and talk to some of the team leaders,
regional managers, and frontline technicians and see what I can figure out.”
Over the next few days, I set meetings and went around talking to
everyone involved down the chain of command. I started with the regional
managers. It didn’t take long to figure out what was going on with them.
They had tried to hold the team leaders and technicians accountable for filling
in every field—especially when their volume bonus was threatened with a
10-percent cut. But it didn’t take them long to figure out that if their
technicians spent the additional time filling in all the fields, they couldn’t
cover as many installations or customer service calls. By not covering as
many installations, they made less money, and that cost them more than the
10 percent penalty for noncompliance with the software. Once they realized
this, the regional managers backed off holding the front line accountable.
The team leaders had another story. They were busy. They handled the
schedules for their teams, and it was a huge job: appointments, cancellations,
customers not present, jobs taking too long and interfering with other jobs,
and, of course, dealing with absent technicians and getting their jobs covered.
On top of that, as the technical experts, they spent a fair amount of time on
the phone with technicians troubleshooting more complex problems. Finally,
they were also the first point of impact for customer complaints. Any issue
with the product or the technician came directly to the team leader first—and
those calls had to be handled delicately and tactfully. With all of this on their
plates, they didn’t have time for much else. And they certainly didn’t have
time to load individual technicians’ screens after every call to ensure that the
data was being entered. So even though they understood that it needed to
happen, they simply didn’t have the time to execute it.
Finally, I got into the field and talked to some of the technicians. They had
some significant problems. First of all, entering information into the system
took longer than the senior leadership knew. In the field, different customers
in different areas had varying levels of cell phone reception. In areas with
poor signals, loading each page could take a minute or two—and there were
eight pages to load, so this was a huge waste of time. Furthermore, each page
started with the need to reenter the customer’s name, address, and account
number. Copy and paste wasn’t a solution because you couldn’t copy more
than one field at a time, requiring you to flip back and forth between screens,
which took forever. Last, instead of having some multiple-choice options for
the most common answers, every answer had to be typed in, which wasted
even more time. On top of all that, and most important, no one on the front
lines really understood how the data was going to help them.
When I reported back to the national operations manager with all this
information, he was shocked.
“Okay,” he said in a depressed voice. “Accountability didn’t work. Now
what?”
“Now you lead,” I told him.
He took a moment to let that sink in.
Finally, he broke. “Well then, I am at a loss. How am I supposed to lead
here?”
It was a great sign. He was humble enough to admit he needed some help
—and what’s more, humble enough to ask for it.
“Okay, it isn’t that bad,” I replied. “Luckily, you have a bunch of good
people out there who want to do the right thing. First, you have got to solicit
input on how to make the software better. There are some things that would
really simplify it. Multiple-choice answers for one. Making the customer
information flow from one screen to the next would be helpful—these guys
are typing the same information on every page. And there should be fewer
pages. Simplify. I know you rarely have to print these things out, so why do
they need to be compatible with a paper format? Put more questions on each
screen so the techs aren’t loading screen after screen—that wastes all kinds of
time in the field. Those are just some initial suggestions after talking to only
four or five of your techs. I’m sure a broader inquiry would yield even more
ideas to streamline the software based on direct feedback from the guys who
use it.”
“That makes sense,” the ops manager replied. “I thought we had gotten
enough feedback.”
“Maybe you did in the beginning,” I said. “But once a complex thing like
this hits the field, you need to continually get feedback to make it better.
That’s just the way it is.”
“Got it. Anything else?” the ops manager asked.
“Absolutely,” I said. “The biggest thing I figured out in talking to the
frontline troops about this is that they have no idea why they are doing this—
and, most important, how it affects them.”
“How it affects them?” he repeated.
“Yes. Right now, they don’t get it,” I said.
“But they know this data will help us hold on to customers and allow us to
upsell them on better, more expensive products,” the ops manager said.
“Obviously, that is going to make the company more profitable. What else is
there to get?”
“Okay. Think about what you just said,” I stated. “If the company makes
more money, if the company is more profitable, do you think that a frontline
technician cares?”
“I hope he cares! It is his paycheck!” the ops manager yelled.
“Hope isn’t a course of action,” I said. “And, from his perspective, he has
been getting a paycheck consistently for as long as he’s been employed here
—regardless of how profitable the company is or isn’t. It simply doesn’t
impact him.”
“He should still care about it,” the ops manager insisted.
“Of course he should,” I agreed. “And in a perfect world, every employee
would care deeply about the profitability of the company he or she works for.
But these folks have other things to care about. Husbands and wives. Kids.
Soccer games. Bills and cars and mortgages and the game on Friday night
and the broken water heater and the kid heading off to college. They have a
ton to care about—and like it or not, the profitability of the company is not
high on their list.”
“So then what do we do?” the ops manager asked. “If they don’t care, why
should they give any extra effort?”
“They have to understand why—but that why has to have a thread that ties
back to them, to what is in it for them,” I told him.
“And how do I do that?” he asked. “How can I make them care about the
company’s profits?”
“You have to think it through,” I said. “It’s like this. If you can capture
this data that you want, you will be able to better arm both technicians in the
field and your salespeople, right?”
“Absolutely. That’s the whole point,” the ops manager agreed.
“And once the technicians and salespeople are armed, they can do a better
job, right?” I continued.
“Definitely,” he answered.
“Okay,” I said. “Now follow me: Armed with this data, the technicians
will be able to provide better and faster customer service, and the salespeople
will be able to sell more product to more customers. When we provide better
service and sell more products, our business grows. When our business
grows, we make more money—”
“That’s what I said! But how does that help?” the ops manager
interrupted.
“Listen,” I told him. “When the company makes more money, we can
invest more money in advertising and infrastructure. Once we put more
money into advertising and infrastructure, we will gain even more customers
and be able to support them even better. The better we perform as a company,
the more customers we acquire. The more customers we acquire, the more
work there is for technicians, which means overtime and overtime pay. And
once the company maxes that out, we will need more technicians. The more
technicians we need, the more we have to pay them to be here. So this means
down the line, we will increase pay for technicians, especially experienced
ones. And lastly, the more technicians and clients we have, the more team
leaders and regional supervisors we will need. This opens up a pathway to
advancement for every technician at this company. So profitability of the
company not only puts money into the pockets of the owners—which the
frontline technicians probably don’t care too much about—but more
important, it impacts the technicians directly: it opens up opportunity for
more pay, higher salaries, and a pathway for career advancement. That’s the
thread that ties all of this together and aligns everyone at the company—the
corporate leadership team right down to the field technicians. That’s
leadership.”
The operations manager nodded. The light had come on. It was clear.
Over the next two days, I helped him put together a simple, clear
presentation that explained the thread of why. We also talked about the fact
that he would still have to occasionally inspect people’s work to ensure that
things were being done—there still had to be some level of overt
accountability. But most of the accountability would come intrinsically, from
the individual leaders and the field technicians themselves, who were now
empowered by understanding the why. They would help keep each other
accountable, when they fully understood the impact and the direct benefit to
them.
A few days later, the national operations manager briefed the plan during
an all-hands morning call. He also put one of the tech-savvy regional
managers in charge of compiling feedback about the software system so it
could be improved. Most important, he drove home how every member of the
company would benefit from collecting data to the best of their ability—
which would help every employee improve their lives.
The troops now understood that, and they went to work.
PART III
BALANCING YOURSELF
Task Unit Bruiser SEALs from Charlie and Delta Platoons, about to launch on a nighttime direct action
capture/kill raid in Ramadi, visit a wounded SEAL brother at “Charlie Med,” the Camp Ramadi
Medical Facility, as he awaits MEDEVAC transport to major surgical facilities. An exceptional
teammate and friend, the wounded SEAL is the brave young man described in the opening pages of
Chapter 1. Leif Babin, Charlie platoon commander, at center. Marc Lee, Charlie Platoon
assaulter/machine gunner, at right.
(Photo courtesy of the authors)
CHAPTER 9
A Leader and a Follower
Leif Babin
* * *
There were many times in my Navy career when, in an effort to prove my
leadership, I failed to follow. And rather than strengthen me as a leader in the
eyes of the team, it undermined my leadership. In those instances, I had to
work to recover and build back trust with the team.
As a brand-new platoon commander in Task Unit Bruiser, I’d gotten this
wrong during an early training operation shortly after I reported to the SEAL
Team. Before we deployed to Ramadi, during our training workup, we
practiced our ability to board and take down ships at sea. We called this
“Visit, Board, Search, and Seizure” operations.
In preparation for training runs on ships at sea, we planned several hours
of rehearsals to dial in our standard operating procedures and practice our
movement, tactics, and communications on a ship that was docked pierside in
San Diego Harbor. It was great training in preparation for the more difficult
task of boarding and clearing a ship that was under way.
With some members of Charlie and Delta Platoons pulled away for other
training and qualifications, the group from Task Unit Bruiser that day was a
combined element from Charlie and Delta Platoons. I was the senior man in
charge, and none of my Charlie Platoon senior enlisted leaders could attend.
Instead, the most senior enlisted SEAL at the training that day was a member
of Delta Platoon. He was not a chief or a leading petty officer, but he did
have several deployments under his belt, which made him the most
experienced SEAL there. I had only one prior SEAL deployment.
We launched into movement drills, with SEALs bounding across the open
deck of the ship using Cover and Move. All was going smoothly until we
observed some confusion with the terminology being used to communicate
among the team. Several different terms were being used. It was clear that we
all needed to get on the same page.
“This was our SOP from my last platoon,” I said. “Let’s just go with that.”
I put the word out to everyone when we called the troops together to
debrief the run.
The experienced SEAL petty officer from Delta Platoon disagreed.
“I think we should do it another way,” he said, pushing a different SOP
that he was familiar with.
“I already put the word out,” I said. “It will be a pain to change. Let’s just
go with my way for now.”
“I don’t like your method near as much,” he replied. “The way we did it in
my last two platoons was better.”
To me, the advantages and disadvantages between the two methods were
insignificant. What mattered was that we all were on the same page. And
since I’d already put the word out to everyone, I figured it was easiest to just
stick with that.
“Let’s just go with my method for now,” I said. “When we get back to the
team, we can talk through it with Tony [Charlie Platoon chief] and the Delta
Platoon chief.”
“We shouldn’t develop bad habits,” the SEAL insisted. “My method
works best.”
Growing impatient, I recognized that this was a test of wills. And being a
young, inexperienced platoon commander, I decided that I needed to
demonstrate that I was in charge—I was the senior man.
“We’re doing it my way,” I said. “This conversation is over.”
With that, the SEAL petty officer and I got back to the training runs. Soon
we wrapped up the runs and headed back to the team. But even in the
immediate aftermath, I knew I hadn’t handled that situation well. It was the
weakest form of leadership to win an argument through rank or position. In
the Navy, we called it playing a game of “Rock, Scissors, Rank,” like the
game of “Rock, Paper, Scissors,” except rank wins every time. But every
leader I had seen use that form of leadership was not someone for whom I
had much respect. It certainly wasn’t the leader I wanted to be, and on the
ride back to the team, I was embarrassed at how I had handled the situation.
Back at the team, I pulled the SEAL petty officer aside and apologized for
the way I had reacted. I told him I should have deferred to his method. He
told me he was wrong to have argued with me about it in front of the rest of
the task unit. We left the conversation on good terms. I was determined to not
let that happen again.
At the time, I had thought that if I gave way and followed the SEAL petty
officer’s lead, it would make me look weak as the leader. But looking back, I
realized the opposite was true. Had I given way to the SEAL enlisted leader
with more experience, it would have made me a much stronger leader. It
would have shown that I was willing to follow as well as lead. It would have
served as a powerful demonstration that I knew I didn’t have all the answers
and could get behind those with more experience, who were in a better
position to lead a particular aspect of the team or the mission.
The minor differences between the two methods we argued about were
tactically insignificant. But the missed opportunity to demonstrate my
strength as a leader by being a willing follower was a strategic loss. I learned
an important lesson from this failure, one that helped me greatly going
forward and enabled Charlie Platoon and Task Unit Bruiser to more
effectively lead and win.
Every leader must be ready and willing to take charge, to make hard,
crucial calls for the good of the team and the mission. That is inherent in the
very term “leader.” But leaders must also have the ability to follow. This was
a difficult dichotomy: in order to be a good leader, you must also be a good
follower. Finding that balance is key.
Principle
Every leader must be willing and able to lead, but just as important is a
leader’s ability to follow. A leader must be willing to lean on the expertise
and ideas of others for the good of the team. Leaders must be willing to listen
and follow others, regardless of whether they are junior or less experienced.
If someone else has a great idea or specific knowledge that puts them in the
best position to lead a particular project, a good leader recognizes that it
doesn’t matter who gets the credit, only that the mission is accomplished in
the most effective manner possible. Confident leaders encourage junior
members of the team to step up and lead when they put forth ideas that will
contribute to mission success. When the team wins, much of the credit goes
to the leader, whether or not that leader was the person driving the operation,
tactics, or strategy, and a good leader pushes the praise and accolades down
to their team.
At the same time, a good leader must also be a good follower of his or her
own senior leaders. As we wrote in Extreme Ownership: “One of the most
important jobs of any leader is to support your own boss.” When the debate
on a particular course of action ends and the boss makes a decision—even if
you disagree with the decision—“you must execute the plan as if it were your
own.” Only if the orders coming down from senior leadership are illegal,
immoral, unethical, or significantly risky to lives, limbs, or the strategic
success of the organization should a subordinate leader hold fast against
directives from superiors. Those cases should be rare. Chapter 11 of this
book, “Humble, Not Passive,” elaborates on this dichotomy.
Under normal circumstances, a good leader must follow and support the
chain of command. Often, for natural leaders who are eager to step up and
take charge, it may be a struggle to follow a leader who is less competent,
less aggressive, uncharismatic, or uninspiring. Regardless, when lawful
orders from the boss or higher chain of command conflict with a leader’s
ideas, a subordinate leader must still be willing to follow and support the
chain of command. Failing to do this undermines the authority of the entire
chain of command, including that of the defiant leader. Failing to follow also
creates an antagonistic relationship up the chain of command, which
negatively impacts the willingness of the boss to take input and suggestions
from the subordinate leader, and hurts the team. Leaders who fail to be good
followers fail themselves and their team. But when a leader is willing to
follow, the team functions effectively and the probability of mission success
radically increases. This is the dichotomy to balance: be a leader and a
follower.
Application to Business
“I need your help,” Jim said when we connected via phone. “I’ve got a
serious dilemma.”
Jim was the leader of the sales team in the products division of a major
corporation. He was a highly competent leader—smart, aggressive toward
mission accomplishment, and driven to outperform and succeed where others
came up short. Like so many good leaders, he was highly competitive and
took pride when his team outperformed the other teams in his division.
Jim had read Extreme Ownership and recognized that he needed to make
some improvements in his leadership game. He reached out to me to inquire
about executive coaching.
“Unfortunately, we aren’t able to provide individual coaching anymore,” I
told him. “That is something we used to offer, but with the high demand for
our services at Echelon Front, we only provide executive coaching to our
long-term clients now as part of our Leadership Development and Alignment
Programs.”
Jim was disappointed. At the time, I lived in New York City. Jim lived
nearby in New Jersey.
“I’ll make this as little impact on you as I can,” Jim said. “I’ll even jump
on a train and come to New York City whenever it’s convenient.”
“What specific leadership challenges are you struggling with?” I asked
Jim. “In what areas are you looking to improve?”
“My relationship with my immediate boss isn’t good,” he replied, “and
I’m not sure what to do about it. I’ve always been a solid team player, and
I’ve gotten along well with every previous boss I can remember. I’m usually
their go-to guy. Now, I seem to be in the doghouse and I’m not sure what to
do to make it better.”
From our initial conversation, I immediately liked Jim. He was a leader
with a Default: Aggressive mentality, and in his struggles with his boss, I saw
much of my former self. I made so many of the same mistakes. As I
aggressively maneuvered to win the tactical victory, I sometimes created
frictions with my leadership that hurt our team in the long run and hindered
our strategic mission. I knew that the lessons I’d learned the hard way would
be useful to Jim and help him rebuild trust with his chain of command. I also
knew that while he likely wouldn’t want to hear what I had to say, he was
eager to learn and therefore would be more willing to listen and implement
my recommendations. I decided to make some time in the schedule for him.
“Okay,” I said. “Let’s do it. How about we meet up in Manhattan
sometime in the next couple of weeks?”
Jim was excited and eager to link up. We arranged a time and meeting
place.
The place was a finely decorated New York City social club with a long
and storied history, whose members included highly successful business
leaders and titans of Wall Street. Having grown up in the country in rural
southeast Texas, I was much more comfortable in jeans and a flannel shirt or
the clothes I wore while stationed in San Diego: a T-shirt, surf shorts, and
flip-flops. But as we often say at Echelon Front, there is no growth in the
comfort zone. So I donned the required suit and tie for the venue and went to
meet Jim.
My first impression confirmed what I had gleaned in our phone
conversation: Jim was a driven leader who truly cared about his job and the
team he led. He genuinely wanted to be the best at what he did, earn the
respect of his peers and leaders, and he was determined to find ways to
improve his leadership game. After some initial conversation, we dove into
the leadership challenge with which he was struggling at the company.
“I feel like my boss is being unfairly harsh on me and my team because he
doesn’t like me,” Jim stated. He described how he’d previously been
recognized for a particular standout performance by the senior vice president
of the division—his boss’s boss.
“That recognition seemed to turn my boss against me,” Jim continued. “It
culminated with a big blowup recently.”
“What was the big blowup?” I inquired.
“It happened a few weeks back when I went in for my annual performance
review,” Jim answered. “Our team had done well overall. I was expecting
strong marks, just as I’ve received in the past, and I was stunned when he
handed me the review with a lower rating. I mean, there are some areas where
we could have done better. But this rating was far lower than it should have
been.”
“How did you respond?” I asked.
“I blew up at him,” Jim admitted. “I felt it was an insult to me. And, most
important, it hurt my team’s paychecks. Our bonuses are directly tied to that
performance rating. Lower marks meant less money for my team to feed their
families. I was furious about this and I told the boss so. Things got pretty
heated. He blew up at me and I stormed out of his office.”
“That doesn’t sound good,” I said. “It seems your boss is intimidated by
you.”
“That’s probably true,” Jim conceded.
“That means that his ego is getting in the way,” I said. “A good, confident
leader would welcome any subordinate leader’s strong performance and
praise from the top. That’s great for the entire team. But a weak leader, one
who lacks confidence in him- or herself, will be intimidated by strong
performers. And that seems to be the case here.
“I understand this situation because you are a lot like me,” I explained.
“This is exactly the situation I found myself in on multiple occasions
throughout my Navy career. And I couldn’t figure out why.”
I explained to Jim that while it might surprise many who haven’t served,
there are weak leaders in the Navy and other branches of the U.S. military,
just as there are in any facet of leadership in the business world. In fact, from
my days at the U.S. Naval Academy to my time on two different Navy
surface ships through my years in the SEAL Teams, the number of leaders I
deeply admired and respected were relatively few. That is just the way of the
world, even in an organization as highly screened as the SEAL Teams: good
leaders are rare; bad leaders are common. There were certainly times when I
worked directly for a boss I thought was weak, risk averse, or just plain timid.
Back then, I was a young and inexperienced but headstrong leader. I would
often butt heads with a boss with whom I disagreed over the smallest of
things. I would then find myself alienated, as the black sheep among my peer
group of junior leaders on the team. It was never where I wanted to be. At the
time, I put all the blame on my boss. Looking back, however, I realized that
many of the problems that arose for me were self-induced. When I didn’t
respect my boss, I allowed that to show at times in the way that I spoke and
acted. To a boss who clearly lacked confidence, I flexed my ego instead of
putting it in check. I failed to recognize that a leader who lacks confidence
would be hypersensitive to any perceived slight or lack of professionalism in
my communication with him. People often describe such situations as a
“personality conflict” or “personality clash,” meaning two people of very
different mentalities who simply don’t get along. But that is merely an
excuse. I explained to Jim that there was much I could have (and absolutely
should have) done to prevent those frictions from developing. It was yet
another recognition of the power that is the mind-set of Extreme Ownership:
it’s not about others; it’s about you.
“So what do you intend to do now?” I asked.
Jim wasn’t sure what his next step should be. He disagreed with the boss’s
assessment and wanted to appeal the evaluation to the vice president of the
division.
“I’d like to go back into the boss’s office and set things straight,” Jim said.
“But I’m worried that it will only result in further escalation and add fuel to
the fire of an already bad situation.”
“If you go back into the boss’s office and tell him he’s wrong, that he
should change his review, what do you think the results will be?” I asked.
“Even if you lay out some quantifiable data to support your argument, is this
an argument that you can win?”
Jim recognized this course of action would not achieve the desired result.
Without question, it would only further inflame tensions. Even if the highest
echelon in the chain of command forced his boss to raise the team’s marks in
the evaluation, the difficulties this would create for Jim and his team in the
long term would be greatly compounded. Changing the evaluation would be a
Pyrrhic victory—a tactical win that resulted in a strategic loss.
“Is it good for your team for you to have an antagonistic relationship with
your boss?” I asked. “Does that benefit them? Does it benefit you?”
Jim understood that this wasn’t good for anyone. His frictions with the
boss hurt him and everyone on his team.
“In order to be a good leader, you must also be a good follower,” I said.
“And right now, you’re failing as a follower.”
Jim looked at me, surprised. My response was unexpected. He was a
competent leader and not used to failing at anything. I knew it was likely the
opposite of what he wanted to hear. But I knew that it was the truth, and it
was what he needed to hear.
“If you’re failing as a follower, then you’re failing as a leader. And that
means you’re failing your team,” I explained. “You’re telling me that there
aren’t any areas where you and your team can improve? You are currently at
optimal performance and can’t get any better?”
Of course there were areas in which he and his team could improve, Jim
conceded. And once he admitted this fact, he then acknowledged that some of
the critiques in the boss’s evaluation, though harsh, were not untruthful.
There were a multitude of ways he and his team could improve
communication, increase efficiency, and build stronger relationships with
their customers and other departments to enable greater mutual support and
effectiveness.
“As we wrote about in Extreme Ownership,” I said, “these things are
‘simple, not easy.’ And though you’ve read the book multiple times and
understand the basic concepts, the principles can be difficult to implement in
your life. Both Jocko and I struggle with this at times, just like anyone—and
we wrote the book!
“What you need to do,” I instructed, “is recognize your failure as a
follower. Go to your boss and take ownership. Accept the critical evaluation
and the negative marks. Acknowledge that you must do better. Then, lay out
in detail for your boss the major steps you will take to improve in each of the
areas where your marks were low. It’s not enough to just say it. You have to
do it. You must demonstrate through action to improve in each area.”
Jim looked back at me in disbelief.
“One of the toughest but most important lessons I learned from Jocko,” I
explained, “is that you should strive to have the same relationship with every
boss you ever work for, no matter if they are good or bad. Whether they are
an outstanding leader whom you admire, a mediocre leader who needs
improvement, or a terrible leader for whom no one on the team has respect,
you must strive to form the same relationship with all of them.”
I explained that the relationship to seek with any boss incorporates three
things:
1) They trust you.
2) They value and seek your opinion and guidance.
3) They give you what you need to accomplish your mission and then
let you go execute.
“Whether they are good, bad, or indifferent as a leader doesn’t matter,” I
concluded. “You must build a strong relationship with your boss founded on
trust and support. If you do that, you will succeed as a leader by enabling
your team to succeed. And since most of the world can’t do this, you will run
circles around your peers and outperform everyone else.
“Your mission, going forward,” I stated, “is to build a better relationship
with your boss. Be a good follower. Repair the trust with your chain of
command. So, go and make it happen.”
Captain “Main Gun” Mike Bajema and the brave Soldiers that crewed his M1A2 Abrams Main Battle
Tank maneuver to support U.S. and Iraqi dismounted troops in Ramadi. Mike commanded “Bulldog”—
Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, 37th Armored Regiment (1-37) of the 1st Armored Division. Team
Bulldog and his battalion, the “Bandits” of Task Force 1-37, were an exceptional group of Soldiers that
aggressively led the “Seize, Clear, Hold, Build” strategy into some of the most dangerous, enemy-held
territory in the city: South-Central Ramadi. With so many friendly units, including the Lima and Kilo
Companies of the 3rd Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, operating in a small city
only a few miles across, careful contingency planning was mandatory to deconflict friendly forces on
the battlefield and reduce the extreme risk of “blue-on-blue” or friendly fire.
(Photo courtesy of Mike Bajema)
CHAPTER 10
Plan, but Don’t Overplan
Leif Babin
Principle
Careful planning is essential to the success of any mission. In Extreme
Ownership, chapter 9, “Plan,” we wrote that mission planning meant “never
taking anything for granted, preparing for likely contingencies, and
maximizing the chance of mission success while minimizing the risk to the
troops executing the operation.” While the risks in combat are obvious, there
are also significant risks in the business world. Livelihoods are at stake: jobs,
careers, capital, strategic initiatives, and long-term success. Leaders must
manage this risk through careful contingency planning for the things that can
be controlled. But not every risk can be controlled.
For planning, there is a dichotomy within which leaders must find
balance. You cannot plan for every contingency. If you try to create a
solution for every single potential problem that might arise, you overwhelm
your team, you overwhelm the planning process, you overcomplicate
decisions for leaders. Rather than preventing or solving problems,
overplanning creates additional and sometimes far more difficult problems.
Therefore, it is imperative that leaders focus on only the most likely
contingencies that might arise for each phase of an operation. Choose at most
the three or four most probable contingencies for each phase, along with the
worst-case scenario. This will prepare the team to execute and increase the
chances of mission success.
It is important, however, that leaders manage the dichotomy in planning
by not straying too far in the other direction—by not planning enough for
contingencies. When leaders dismiss likely threats or problems that could
arise, it sets the team up for greater difficulties and may lead to mission
failure. At every level of the team, leaders must fight against complacency
and overconfidence. Nothing breeds arrogance like success—a string of
victories on the battlefield or business initiatives. Combat leaders must never
forget just how much is at stake: the lives of their troops. Business leaders,
too, must never become callous with the livelihoods and careers of their
employees and associates or the capital invested. Each risk requires careful
evaluation, weighing, and balancing the risk versus the reward—the benefit
to the team and to the strategic mission of a successful outcome. Careful
contingency plans that are focused are key to managing such risks and
achieving victory. It is difficult to balance the dichotomy between these two
extremes. But it is critical for every leader to understand that in order to be
successful, he or she must plan, but not overplan.
Application to Business
“I don’t believe we have fully looked at the contingencies,” said the chief
operating officer (COO). “I’ve voiced my concerns. But they don’t seem to
be taken seriously.”
Jocko and I sat in the COO’s office. We were there to kick off a
Leadership Development and Alignment Program for the company’s senior
executive team and midlevel managers. The company had delivered a string
of successes in recent years, owing in large part to a smart and aggressive
leadership team eager to establish the company as a major player and take on
the dominant competitors in the industry. The company’s successes drove an
additional capital raise, which they had recently secured. As a result, the
company now had the resources to invest in expansion.
Victory upon victory had built confidence in the company’s executive
team and its department leaders—and none were more confident than their
CEO. The CEO was determined to grow, and he had no shortage of grand
ideas. The company’s COO urged more caution and a careful evaluation of
the risks involved.
“What risks are you most concerned about?” Jocko inquired.
“We are trying to grow in multiple directions simultaneously,” the COO
responded.
“Launching a single subsidiary company is expensive and carries risk,”
the COO replied. “We are launching two different subsidiary companies at
the same time. We are also expanding the corporate office, hiring dozens of
new administrative staff, and locking in a long-term lease on three more
floors of the corporate headquarters building. That’s over a hundred more
offices and a significant long-term expense. These plans seem to make sense
right now, but if the market takes a downturn or we have a significant
manufacturing problem, all those plans would be in jeopardy.”
“Well, those are real possibilities,” I said. “It sounds like your team is in
need of some detailed contingency plans.”
“Look,” the COO continued. “I’m willing to accept that we will have to
take some risks as we expand. But we need to think about how to handle
those risks. I’m concerned that we are overleveraging ourselves.”
“Why do you think the CEO is pursuing these initiatives concurrently?” I
asked.
We had worked with a number of companies in rapid expansion mode.
Some had aggressively launched new initiatives that achieved extraordinary
results. Others had taken on too many simultaneous risks that burned huge
amounts of capital with little return, and they had to pull back and pursue a
more careful growth strategy.
“I get that there are significant opportunities in each of these efforts,” the
COO answered. “I am all about the need for us to grow and expand our
market share. But we really haven’t done the contingency planning you’re
talking about—and that’s the problem. Look: If the market took a downturn
or we had a major recall of a product, and one of these subsidiary companies
failed, the loss would be significant but it wouldn’t be catastrophic. But if
both of these subsidiary companies failed simultaneously, it would be a major
blow to our company’s bottom line. It might shut the whole thing down.”
With careful contingency planning, the CEO and the company’s
leadership team would have taken steps to mitigate such a possibility. If they
focused their efforts to launch only one subsidiary initially, and once its
success was established launched the next one, that would be a much safer
bet.
“What about the additional administrative support?” I inquired. “Is that
something you feel isn’t needed?”
“I understand the need for additional administrative support,” the COO
replied. “We’ve had a number of requests from our department heads for
more support. I understand that. But taking on a multiyear lease of expensive
office space large enough for a hundred additional offices is, I think,
excessive. Why can’t we just expand to a single additional floor instead of
three? Who knows what the economy will look like a year or two from now?
This company has only seen good times. We haven’t been around long
enough to experience hard times. What if the economy takes a turn for the
worse and we lose significant business? Our company will be on the hook for
these additional salaries, and even if we let employees go, we will still be
locked in to the long-term lease for empty offices and burning major capital
that we may not have.”
His concerns sounded reasonable. It was clear that he wasn’t totally risk
averse, but he knew things might not go as planned and he urged caution
about the level of risk the company was taking and the lack of steps taken to
mitigate that risk. This was precisely the reason that planning for
contingencies was so critical to mission success.
“When we were in combat,” I told the COO, “it was crucial to carefully
evaluate risk and develop contingency plans for the things that were likely to
go wrong. Once we analyzed those risks, we recognized that there was much
we could control to reduce risk. Contingency planning helped us take the
steps necessary to prepare for the uncertainty of outcomes during combat
operations. And that’s no different for you or your team here.
“In Ramadi, when we went into enemy-held neighborhoods where the
threat was extremely high,” I said, “we took steps to mitigate risks from
attack. The roadside bombs or IEDs were the biggest threat, so in the worst
areas, we didn’t drive. We walked in via foot patrol. We set up sniper
overwatch positions in buildings, where the chance of enemy attack was high,
and we set up multiple positions that could support each other. Planning for
these contingencies helped us manage the risk—even extreme risk in that
environment.”
Jocko added: “You might think that in the SEAL Teams, we are all Big
Tough Frogmen who run to the sound of the gunfire no matter what. And for
many situations, that is exactly what we did. We have to show courage under
fire and be willing to risk our lives. But we can’t be foolish. We can’t take
needless risk that prevents us from accomplishing our strategic mission and
endangers our troops,” Jocko continued. “As leaders, we have to do that
smartly by mitigating the risks we can control. Careful evaluation of the risk
enables us to develop contingency plans so we can execute in the most
effective manner to accomplish the mission with the least amount of risk to
our troops.”
Jocko explained to the COO that in training, we put SEAL leaders to the
test to humble them and hopefully prevent them from having to learn such
lessons in combat when real lives were at stake.
“We utilized a ‘kill house’ to practice maneuvering through hallways,
entering doors, clearing rooms. We often conducted such training using
simulated fire with paintball or Simunition rounds against role-players—
SEAL instructors or volunteers acting as the bad guys or opposing force,”
Jocko said.
Jocko described how many of the scenarios were designed to lure the
SEAL unit into a dire situation, where the leader must step back and analyze
the risk.
“In one such scenario,” Jocko said, “our SEAL instructor staff would
place a bunkered ‘enemy’ machine gun position covering a long hallway,
where the role-players simulating bad guys could engage the SEAL platoon
from a protected position from which they couldn’t be easily hit by the SEAL
assault force trying to clear the building. The SEAL leader would send two
shooters forward down the hallway toward the enemy fire. The two SEALs
would encounter devastating fire, the sting from dozens of paint rounds
hitting their bodies at high speed. The instructor staff would put them down
—they’d be told to lie on the floor of the hallway simulating that they’d been
killed. The SEAL leader would usually send two more of his SEAL shooters
forward. The results from attacking a hardened position would inevitably be
the same: two more SEALs ‘killed.’ Then the SEAL leader would send two
more shooters, until the hallway was littered with dead—thankfully only
simulated dead.”
“That’s when we would have to step in,” I added, “and ask the SEAL
leader: ‘Do you think this is a good idea to continue sending more of your
troops to their death?’ When the leader responded in the negative, I explained
that charging forward into enemy gunfire was courageous but foolhardy. It
would only result in the destruction of his entire force. And worse, they were
no closer to accomplishing the mission of eliminating the threat and clearing
the house. I instructed him to contingency plan—to think of another way to
attack the problem: ‘Can you send two of your SEAL shooters outside the
building and attack from a different direction? Is there another entrance, a
window or doorway, where we can attack the enemy from behind?’ I would
ask.”
“We watched the lightbulb go off in that SEAL leader’s head as he
realized that not only could he do this but he absolutely must do this if he was
to succeed as a leader,” said Jocko. “It is a leader’s duty to mitigate the risk
you can control.”
“I struggled with those same problems in the same type of difficult
training scenarios,” I told the COO. “In the moment it was difficult to see
what needed to be done. But when I recognized this, I realized that we could
perform much better if we took the time to develop careful contingency
plans. If, before we even launched on the operation, I thought about how we
might best react to a likely scenario, I could more easily make that decision
when I encountered it. Even better, if I briefed the team on what to do in the
event we encountered such a scenario, they were ready to execute and the
team could do so even without immediate direction.”
“But best of all,” Jocko added, “when SEAL leaders thought through a
likely contingency—like a bunkered enemy machine gun position in the
house—and carefully planned how to handle that situation, they came up
with alternative ways to get the mission accomplished while reducing the risk
to the SEAL assault force. This meant they might enter the building from a
direction that the enemy role-players hadn’t anticipated and catch them off
guard. When this happened, the SEAL platoon decimated the enemy fighters,
accomplished the mission, and didn’t lose a single man.”
“That’s where you need to be,” I said. “All business ventures will
inherently carry some element of risk. Thorough planning, understanding and
creating action plans for likely contingencies, will help you mitigate that risk.
While you can’t plan for everything—and you shouldn’t get bogged down
with too much planning—you must still use solid planning to mitigate the
risks you can control. Finding the balance between planning and
overplanning is critical, and it sounds like right now you need to lean toward
more planning so that you are fully prepared to react properly should some of
these possible contingencies occur.”
With that, Jocko and I encouraged the COO to lead up the chain of
command and put together a comprehensive plan that included a clear
assessment of the risks and the contingency plans to help mitigate them. The
COO moved forward, aggressively planning to achieve the CEO’s goals, but
with thorough contingency plans in place to ensure the highest probability of
long-term mission success.
The “ammo table”—ammunition storage in the Charlie platoon mission planning space, which also
served as the Task Unit Bruiser Ready Room. SEALs are taught from day one that violence of action
and superior firepower are what wins in a gunfight. Task Unit Bruiser agreed.
(Photo courtesy of the authors)
CHAPTER 11
Humble, Not Passive
Leif Babin
* * *
Combat is a harsh teacher, and the battlefield in Ramadi was brutal. We were
constantly humbled by the dangers and immense challenges of continuous
urban combat. I was the platoon commander for Charlie Platoon, and often
the ground force commander—the senior leader—for many of the combat
operations. When we pulled off a great success and I got a little cocky, I’d
quickly find myself getting humbled once again when the enemy employed
an innovative tactic we hadn’t yet anticipated or hit us in a manner for which
we were unprepared. Most of all, I was continuously humbled by everything
that I realized I could and should have done better: the recognition that I
should have more carefully deconflicted with other U.S. forces we were
supporting; made my commander’s intent even more simple, clear, and
concise; or empowered junior leaders to an even greater degree. In this
battlespace, it was “be humble or get humbled.”
Jocko sat at his desk, in front of a computer screen. He was heavily
engaged in combat of a different nature. He and the task unit staff handled
legions of requests from our higher headquarters, answered their continuous
questions, and generated mountains of paperwork at their direction. To
Jocko’s credit, he largely shielded us from much of this, allowing me and the
rest of Charlie Platoon, as well as our task unit brothers in Delta Platoon, to
focus on our operations.
“The task group is hounding us to provide an E6 to cover down on a
special assignment,” Jocko informed me.
I didn’t like the sound of that. The task group, our immediate higher
headquarters located about thirty miles down the road from us in the city of
Fallujah, wanted us to provide an experienced SEAL, a noncommissioned
officer with the minimum rank of first class petty officer, to fill a role for
them.
“What’s the assignment?” I asked.
Jocko explained that the assignment was a sensitive one, highly classified
but with a substantial profile and visibility from several levels up the chain of
command.
“This one is coming from the CJSOTF,” he said.
The “CJSOTF” was the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force,4
our boss’s boss, responsible for all special operations forces in Iraq. I
understood there were pressures from above on our task group to provide a
body to fill the billet. I understood that this was important, but I was still
concerned that it also appeared to be an attempt for higher headquarters to
grab precious personnel from my platoon. My protective instincts kicked in.
It can be difficult for any leader to detach from a situation and see beyond
the immediate mission of his or her team. It is a natural reflex for leaders to
resist sharing resources or critical personnel because it makes their immediate
job harder, even if it ultimately benefits the greater team and the strategic
mission. But an important part of being a leader is to be humble enough to
see beyond his or her own needs. I had learned from Jocko that humility was
the most important quality in a leader. In Task Unit Bruiser, there was no
room for arrogance and big egos. The importance of humility that Jocko
talked about had been confirmed time and time again since we had arrived in
Ramadi.
I had learned that the world did not revolve around me and my immediate
team—Charlie Platoon. We were only a small part of much larger operations
that were happening on a vast scale in Ramadi and the surrounding areas of
Anbar Province. We were honored to support the thousands of Soldiers and
Marines of the Ready First Brigade in their efforts in Ramadi.
Being humble also meant understanding that we didn’t have it all figured
out. We didn’t have all the answers. It meant we must learn from other units
that had been in Ramadi longer and work with them to support our chain of
command and support the mission. It wasn’t about how many operations we
conducted or how many bad guys we dispatched. The true measure of success
in the large-scale counterinsurgency operations we supported lay in the
stabilization and security of the city over the long term. We needed the
humility to understand that our higher headquarters, the task group and the
chain of command above us, had strategic insight that we likely did not have.
Being humble meant understanding the importance of strategic direction
from our boss. It meant doing all we could to support the conventional forces
we worked with, the Iraqi soldiers we trained and combat advised, and of
course our chain of command. Being humble meant we put our heads down
and got the job done as directed to the best of our ability.
But at the same time, there was a dichotomy to being humble: being
humble didn’t mean being passive. It didn’t mean not to push back when it
truly mattered. While I didn’t have the visibility or complete understanding
of the strategic picture that the boss and his staff at the task group had, they
also lacked understanding of how strategic direction or requirements
impacted our tactical operations on the front lines. And it was up to me to
push that information up the chain of command. Humility has to be balanced
by knowing when to make a stand.
I had witnessed a good example of this when we’d been directed to work
with Iraqi soldiers. As Jocko wrote in detail in chapter 3, “Believe,” of
Extreme Ownership, upon Task Unit Bruiser’s arrival in Ramadi, the
CJSOTF required us and every other U.S. special operations unit in the
theater to operate “by, with, and through Iraqi security forces.” That meant
working alongside poorly trained, poorly equipped, and often untrustworthy
Iraqi soldiers. After much initial pushback, we thought through the reasons
we were being directed to do this. After fully understanding and
disseminating the why to the platoons, Task Unit Bruiser accepted this
mission and took it on, despite its inherent difficulties and dangers.
But there were many other U.S. special operations units, including SEAL
units, that did not. Instead of embracing the spirit of “by, with, and through”
Iraqi troops, these U.S. units embraced the literal guidance to “put an Iraqi
face” on U.S. operations. In some cases, that meant a single Iraqi face: many
American units had only one or two Iraqi soldiers on combat operations
where the assault force consisted of twenty or thirty Americans. The Iraqis
stood in the back and contributed little to the missions.
To overcome this mentality and enforce the spirit of the directive, the
CJSOTF further imposed a specific ratio of U.S. special operators to Iraqi
soldiers (or Iraqi police) that had to be met on each operation. For every
American special operator, they required that there be seven Iraqi soldiers.
This seemed reasonable enough in many parts of Iraq where there were
plenty of Iraqi soldiers and the threat level was far less significant. But in
Ramadi, the Iraqi Army units that Task Unit Bruiser worked with were
undermanned and overtasked. There simply were not enough Iraqi soldiers to
go around. The limited number of Iraqi soldiers available for any one
operation meant that compliance with the required ratio would allow us only
two or three SEALs total on most operations. In far less hostile parts of Iraq,
a combat operation with only three or four American special operators and
another twelve or sixteen Iraqi soldiers could be executed without
endangering the lives of the entire force. But this was Ramadi, a violent,
terrorist stronghold and the epicenter of the deadly insurgency in Iraq. We
didn’t have that luxury. Against a combat-experienced, well-armed, and
determined enemy, the Iraqi troops didn’t count for much in a firefight. If an
enemy force of twenty or thirty insurgent fighters attacked us, it was highly
probable that an element made up of mostly Iraqi soldiers with only a few
U.S. special operators would be overwhelmed and everyone killed. This
horrific outcome was not just a theory. It had happened in Ramadi to U.S.
units that were unprepared for the level of violence.
As task unit commander, Jocko understood the importance of “by, with,
and through Iraqi security forces.” In fact, he directed the opposite tack from
most every other SEAL and special operations unit: he required that we take
Iraqi soldiers on every operation. We embraced that. But when the ratio
directive was issued, I talked it over with Jocko and explained what this
meant to Charlie Platoon, how the number of Iraqi troops we had available
were limited and how it would endanger our SEALs and our mission.
Jocko recognized that this was a time when he must push back for the
good of the mission and the safety of his men.
“We can’t comply with this directive,” Jocko told our commanding officer
at the task group via a phone call. “I understand the reason for it. I can assure
you that we will take as many Iraqi soldiers with us as we possibly can on
every operation. But here in Ramadi, for the types of missions we are
conducting, in such dangerous territory, if we comply with this ratio we will
likely have one of our elements completely overrun. There is a high
probability that they will all be killed.”
Our commanding officer and his staff at the task group understood. They
certainly didn’t want to endanger our SEAL operators or the missions we
were a part of. And because we rarely pushed back on anything and had the
reputation of humbly complying with direction from senior leadership, we
had built trust up the chain of command. So when our task group explained
the circumstances to the CJSOTF, they waived the ratio requirement for Task
Unit Bruiser.
* * *
As Charlie Platoon commander, I saw the requirement to provide one of my
experienced first class petty officers for another mission in much the same
way. No matter how important the new tasking might be, if Charlie Platoon
gave up a key leader for the duration of deployment, it would cripple our
combat capability and remove crucial leadership experience.
I talked it over with my Charlie Platoon chief, Tony. We had only two
men of that rank in the platoon: one was our leading petty officer, who played
a vital leadership role in the platoon; the other was Chris Kyle, our lead
sniper and point man, whose experience and skill were integral to the success
of our sniper overwatch missions. Worse, because we often split into smaller
elements led by inexperienced leaders who were out on their own, operating
independently with no oversight from Tony or me, the experience of our two
first class petty officers was crucial. The loss of either would not only hurt
our performance on the battlefield and make us less effective, it would
significantly increase the risk to our forces, which already operated in an
environment of extreme danger.
It was pretty clear to me, and to Tony, that we simply could not comply
with the directive. This was an area in which I must push back.
I spoke with Task Unit Bruiser’s senior enlisted advisor, who was
responsible for the actual assignments of all our task unit’s enlisted troops.
“We can’t comply with this directive,” I told him.
“Charlie Platoon needs to cover down on this,” he insisted. “This is
coming from our commanding officer. We don’t have any choice.”
I tried to explain the impact this would have on Charlie Platoon, but he
again told me we didn’t have a choice. But it still made no sense.
So, I went to speak with Jocko. I had made up my mind that we could not,
in good conscience, comply with the directive. I knew if I could make a good
case to Jocko, he would do everything in his power to support me and Charlie
Platoon.
I explained to Jocko how I understood that the project was important. I
understood it bore strategic significance and had substantial visibility from
senior commanders in the theater. But we would have to curtail the
strategically critical operations in support of the Seize, Clear, Hold, Build
strategy that were our main focus if we complied.
“I cannot comply with this and set our team up for failure with potentially
deadly consequences,” I said.
The loss of an experienced SEAL leader during intense combat operations
at the height of the Battle of Ramadi would have been catastrophic to Charlie
Platoon’s operational capability. It meant we would be far less effective on
the battlefield and that our platoon would be at far greater risk.
Jocko pushed back to the task group and passed along my concerns.
Under pressure from the CJSOTF, our task group insisted that we comply.
While I understood the need and the pressure on my chain of command to
comply with the request, I could not passively comply with the removal of
one of my key leaders to my team’s detriment. Even if it meant I might be
fired, I was determined not to allow this to happen.
Finally, Jocko intervened to explain up the chain what the loss of such an
experienced SEAL meant and the negative strategic consequences of the
move. As a result, an alternative plan was formed to fill the billet, relieving
Charlie Platoon of the need to sacrifice a critical member of the team.
* * *
But while a leader can’t be passive, a leader must also carefully prioritize
when and where to push back. Leaders have an obligation to support their
chain of command and carry out the orders that come from above (see
chapter 9, “A Leader and a Follower”). Pushing back against an order or task
from the boss should be the rarest of exceptions and definitely not the rule.
To go against the chain of command when you don’t have to is unnecessary
and unwise. If challenging and questioning orders becomes routine, junior
leaders damage their relationships up the chain of command, which undercuts
the ability to push back against direction from above when it truly matters.
In Task Unit Bruiser, we were successful in the two examples above only
because we had built a strong relationship with our commanding officer and
his staff at the task group through humility. When they had asked us to
complete paperwork, we did it—on time and well-edited, quality work. When
they asked us to take photos of our Iraqi soldiers in training and on combat
operations, we did that and strove to do it better than anyone else. When the
task group asked for serialized inventory lists of all equipment before
departing on operations, we took the extra time and effort and made it
happen. The list of seemingly unimportant requests we dealt with was
significant, and with the high operational tempo of violent urban combat day
in and day out, it was not easy to comply with these requests. But in Task
Unit Bruiser, we didn’t complain about the little things that others might have
pushed back on. Instead, we understood that there were important reasons for
these administrative requirements and got them done. More important, we
knew that in doing the seemingly small things well, we built trust that
strengthened our relationships with our chain of command and enabled us to
challenge an order in the rare circumstances when there truly was a strategic
detriment to our mission and increased risk to our troops.
Staying humble was the key to developing trust with the chain of
command. It was also crucial to building strong relationships with the U.S.
Army and Marine Corps units we served so closely with in Ramadi—units
we depended on for our survival and mission success.
We had formed an exceptional working relationship with Captain Mike
Bajema and his U.S. Army Soldiers from Team Bulldog. As Bulldog’s
company commander (Bravo Company, 1/37), Main Gun Mike led nearly
two hundred Soldiers and a hundred more Iraqi soldiers stationed at Combat
Outpost Falcon, located deep inside enemy-held terrain in the heart of South-
Central Ramadi. He and his Soldiers risked their lives for us constantly, and
we risked ours for them. It was a relationship built on trust, mutual respect,
and admiration. But the relationship hadn’t started out that way.
I first met Mike in the planning phase, before the launch of the first major
U.S. operation into South-Central Ramadi to implement the Ready First
Brigade’s Seize, Clear, Hold, Build strategy. It was a massive operation. Our
SEALs would patrol into the area as the first U.S. boots on the ground.
Mike’s tanks and infantry troops would follow us as the main effort of the
operation. As the planning took place, we were gathered outside his battalion
headquarters, the home of Task Force Bandit, on base at Camp Ramadi. I
walked up to him and introduced myself.
“Captain,” I said to Mike, using his Army rank, “I’m Lieutenant Leif
Babin, SEAL platoon commander. We’re looking forward to working with
you and your team.”
Mike looked back at me curiously.
“What are SEALs doing in Anbar Province?” he asked. “Shouldn’t you
guys be riding a ship in the Persian Gulf?”
It was a jab. He was joking, but it was a jab nonetheless. It wasn’t the way
I had anticipated the conversation going. But I just smiled back.
“Probably so,” I responded. “But we’re here in Anbar to support your
efforts.”
Mike was a professional Soldier. He wasn’t being rude. But he had a lot
on his plate leading a reinforced U.S. Army company of tanks and infantry
Soldiers. He was likely unfamiliar with the capabilities of a SEAL platoon
and thus unsure how we could support his efforts.
Besides, many of the conventional Army and Marine units had had bad
experiences with special operations forces (SOF). SOF units, including
SEALs, could be arrogant and egotistical. I found out later that Mike and his
guys had experienced this with another SOF unit they had worked with
previously. The SOF unit had treated him and his Soldiers unprofessionally.
They refused to share intelligence with them or include them in the planning
process, and they carried themselves with an arrogance that made working
alongside them problematic. It’s likely that Mike expected the same from me,
from our Charlie Platoon SEALs, and from Task Unit Bruiser. But I was
determined to demonstrate the opposite and forge a strong relationship with
him.
Unlike other SEAL and SOF units, we were clean-shaven, wore squared-
away uniforms, and kept our hair short. Jocko knew that a professional
appearance among the conventional forces was important—and he demanded
that we remain well within regulations. That went a long way and made solid
first impressions. But more important, we treated Mike and his Soldiers with
the respect they deserved, just as we did with every Soldier and Marine.
Team Bulldog and the other companies we worked with were outstanding
Soldiers, aggressive and determined to close with and destroy the enemy. The
armor units were skilled in maneuvering their tanks. The infantry troops were
fearless in their patrols and clearance operations. All it took to build a
relationship with them was to not act like arrogant jackasses; to not carry
ourselves as though we thought we were somehow better because we were
SEALs. That humility went far to solidify the relationship.
Two weeks later, the Ready First launched the next series of operations
into a different neighborhood, to establish Combat Outpost (COP) Falcon.
Mike and Team Bulldog were the main effort. We were again the lead U.S.
element on the ground that forged the way and set up on the high ground to
protect his Soldiers as they infiltrated the area.
With the COP Falcon operation, Mike understood who we were and how
we contributed to his mission success. Our SEALs took great risk to push
forward into the most dangerous areas, set up our overwatches on the high
ground, and provide cover for his Soldiers as they built the COP and
patrolled the streets around it.
But it was the smallest, seemingly insignificant things that truly solidified
our relationship with Main Gun Mike and his Soldiers. We had been out in a
sniper overwatch position in a large building down the street from COP
Falcon. After two days in that position, we needed to resupply. We patrolled
back to COP Falcon to rest and refit and prepare for the next operation. As
our SEALs and the Iraqi soldiers with us made our way inside the compound
to the relative safety of the combat outpost, we saw team Bulldog Soldiers
hauling sandbags from a semitrailer parked on the street up the stairwell to
the third-story rooftop of the main COP Falcon building. Our guys were
exhausted and ready to sit down, drop their helmets and body armor, and grab
some water and an MRE (meal, ready to eat).
But there were thousands of sandbags on that semitrailer. It just didn’t
seem right to me to sit down and rest while these Soldiers were laboring. So I
asked Mike if we could help.
“We’re good, brother,” Mike replied. “I know you’ve been getting after it
for two days. And you’re going to launch on another operation soon. Y’all
get some rest. We’ll take care of the sandbags.”
I looked at my platoon chief, Tony Eafrati. He was always ready to BTF
—Big Tough Frogman. That meant we would take on something extremely
dangerous or physically challenging. Tony nodded at me. It was a nonverbal
signal: Let’s do this.
“Negative,” I responded to Mike. “We’ll help with the sandbags.”
I told the rest of Charlie Platoon and some other SEALs who were with us
to drop their combat gear and grab sandbags. There was some grumbling
among the platoon. They were hot, tired, and ready for a break. Likely there
were some SEALs among us who felt they were above carrying sandbags—
that somehow they were “special” and “elite” and we should leave this work
to the “conventional” forces. They were wrong.
These Soldiers were outstanding warriors worthy of respect and
admiration. They had already launched tanks with heavy firepower to rescue
Charlie Platoon SEALs and our Iraqi soldiers from a deadly enemy attack.
These Soldiers had our back. And mutual support was the key to building
relationships that enable teams to Cover and Move for each other. Besides, as
I thought about it, the rooftop machine gun positions we were reinforcing
with the sandbags directly supported us. They covered for us as we moved, as
we departed and then returned to the safety of the COP from combat
operations deep into enemy-held neighborhoods. The more secure those
machine gun positions were, the better they could lay down fire for us as we
maneuvered through the streets.
We hauled sandbags up and down the stairs for the next forty-five
minutes. It was a solid workout, but the extra hands helped shorten the time it
took to complete the task and assisted Bulldog in securing their rooftop
machine gun positions.
It seemed like a small thing, but it was clear that it went a long way in
helping us build an exceptional relationship. Mike and his Bulldog Soldiers
saw that we didn’t hold ourselves above them or above the manual labor
tasks. It demonstrated humility and solidified an already strengthening
relationship.
Going forward, Team Bulldog Soldiers put themselves at great risk over
and over and over again to render assistance and fire support to our Charlie
Platoon SEALs. They came to our aid and rescued us every time we called
for help—every single time. I loved those Soldiers and their courageous
commander they called “Main Gun” Mike, and I will never forget them.
I will also never forget the importance of humility for a leader. A leader
must be humble, must listen to others, must not act arrogant or cocky. But a
leader must balance that and know that there are times to question superiors,
to push back, to stand up and make sure the right things are being done for
the right reasons.
Principle
Humility is the most important quality in a leader. When we had to fire SEAL
leaders from leadership positions in a platoon or task unit, it was almost
never because they were tactically unsound, physically unfit, or incompetent.
It was most often because they were not humble: they couldn’t check their
ego, they refused to accept constructive criticism or take ownership for their
mistakes. The same is true in the business world. We dedicated an entire
chapter of Extreme Ownership to this subject (chapter 4, “Check the Ego”).
Humility is essential to building strong relationships with others, both up and
down the chain of command, as well as with supporting teams outside the
immediate chain of command.
Some leaders took this too far and became humble to a fault. But being
too humble can be equally disastrous for the team. A leader cannot be
passive. When it truly matters, leaders must be willing to push back, voice
their concerns, stand up for the good of their team, and provide feedback up
the chain against a direction or strategy they know will endanger the team or
harm the strategic mission.
This is a difficult dichotomy to balance. But as with all the dichotomies—
being strong, but not overbearing, for example—just the awareness of these
two opposing forces becomes one of the most powerful tools at a leader’s
disposal. Leaders must be humble enough to listen to new ideas, willing to
learn strategic insights, and open to implementing new and better tactics and
strategies. But a leader must also be ready to stand firm when there are
clearly unintended consequences that negatively impact the mission and risk
harm to the team.
Application to Business
“You guys haven’t given it a chance,” said the CEO, exasperated. “No one
has fully implemented the new software system. You’re all complaining
about it and telling me it won’t work, and you haven’t even used it. I need
everyone to get on board with this.”
There were some unintelligible mumbles around the room. But nobody
countered the CEO’s claim or made an overt objection. I could clearly see
that many of the company’s key leaders disagreed with the plan, but nobody
stepped up to push back against the CEO, at least not in a public forum.
We sat in a large hotel conference room, with thirty key leaders of a
successful technology company. The CEO and many of the company’s senior
leaders had read Extreme Ownership and been deeply impacted by the book.
Bringing the book into the company’s leadership training, the CEO strove to
implement the principles within his team. The company had brought their key
leaders together for a leadership off-site and asked me to provide leadership
training.
I presented a leadership brief on the Battle of Ramadi and the lessons that
we learned, as detailed in Extreme Ownership. After an hour or so of the
presentation, I opened it up to the room for questions and discussion, to aid
them in direct application of the principles to their business.
“Extreme Ownership,” I said, repeating the topic just covered in detail.
“Let’s talk about where you are taking ownership of problems and getting
them solved. More important, where is this not happening? Where can you
take greater ownership? Where are you casting blame or waiting for others to
solve problems that you should be solving?”
The CEO was eager to answer. He jumped right in.
“I’m a little frustrated at the lack of ownership to implement our new
software system,” he said. “We’ve talked about it for months. And yet, no
one is taking ownership. All I’m hearing is a whole lot of excuses.”
I took mental note that his comment was itself a lack of ownership,
casting blame on the team for poor, ineffective implementation of the new
system. True Extreme Ownership meant looking at yourself to examine what
you could do better. That is what made it “simple, not easy.” Human nature
was to blame others, to allow frustrations with a problem to see everyone else
as the issue and not yourself. But his comment wasn’t Extreme Ownership.
Such blame casting and excuse making only created more.
It was a common problem we saw with many leaders: A good leader
might have read the book many times and loved the concepts, but still
struggle with implementation falling back on old habits. As a result, problems
never get solved.
“Is there a reason that you all are purposely not utilizing the new
software?” I asked the room.
There was an uncomfortable silence.
“You guys haven’t given it a chance,” the CEO interjected. “You’re all
complaining about it, but no one has implemented it. I think it’s just a matter
of resistance to change, any change—even if the change is for the better.”
The CEO was obviously frustrated with his leaders. It was clear he felt
they were not supporting his direction on a key initiative to improve the
company’s performance.
“We have already invested a ton in this new program,” the CEO
continued. “It’s been years in the making. We’ve hired consultants, we’ve
looked at the options. The decision has been made, and now it’s time to
execute.”
“Does everyone understand the why?” I asked the other leaders in the
room. “Are you clear about why the company is shifting to the new software
system?”
There were a few head nods, but over half the room didn’t answer. They
just sat there or shrugged their shoulders. It was clear that the why needed to
be explained in far greater detail.
“It seems a greater explanation of the why is warranted,” I said, directing
my comment at the CEO.
“I’ve explained this many times, but I’ll explain it again,” said the CEO.
“As our company grows and we expand the number of clients and projects,
we need to be far more efficient in managing, supporting, tracking, and
following-up. Our antiquated software system is far behind what our biggest
competitors utilize. It is a big selling point for them, and if we don’t upgrade,
we will continue to forfeit business to competitors.
“Does that make sense to everyone?” the CEO asked. The others nodded
around the room. Realizing he needed to demonstrate ownership, the CEO
continued: “I thought I had been clear as to why, but obviously it wasn’t clear
to all of you.”
The explanation answered the questions that some in the room harbored
about the new system, though clearly at least a handful of the company’s
senior leaders had understood the reasons behind the need for a new system.
“I get the why,” one of the department leaders replied. “I’m totally on
board with the need to find a better system.”
“Then why is the new program not being implemented?” I asked. “What’s
the problem?”
“I think it’s because you’re all comfortable with the way we’ve always
done things,” the CEO chimed in. “Change is always hard. And no one wants
to change.”
“No, I’m open to change,” the department leader countered. “I know we
have to change. I just don’t think that this new software system you have
selected is the answer. It solves a handful of problems, but it creates even
greater issues for us.”
This was a start. But the CEO couldn’t help himself and began to weigh in
on the discussion.
“I don’t think that’s—” the CEO began.
I cut him off.
“Hold on,” I interjected. “This is good feedback. It’s why I am here, to
help you generate these discussions. Let’s hear what he has to say.”
The CEO understood and complied, nodding to the department head to
continue.
“Can you explain how the new software system creates greater issues for
your team?” I asked the department head.
The department head did so, launching into detail about the negative
impact of the new program on some of his most lucrative and high-profile
projects. He wasn’t merely complaining. He had clearly done the research
and found major flaws with the new system that could be a serious detriment
to the company’s strategic mission.
Another department head added, “We feel the same way on my team. The
new software seems great in theory, but in practice it is hugely problematic.
Two of my trusted frontline leaders pointed out some major flaws to me a
couple of weeks back when we discussed implementing the new system.”
The CEO’s face showed a look of concern. “This is the type of feedback
that I need to hear,” he said.
“We tried to tell you,” the department head insisted. “Several of us tried to
push back.”
“You may have,” I responded. “But it’s clear that you didn’t effectively
raise the arguments as you have done just now.”
I explained that the issue for them wasn’t humility. They clearly had the
humility piece down, recognized the boss’s authority and strategic insight.
“But none of you stepped up to collectively push back on the new
software. You may have spoken out initially, but you’ve backed down from
the authority of the CEO,” I continued. “Yes, he’s the boss. Yes, you need to
execute his direction. But do you think he wants you to implement a system
that would fail?
“Of course not,” I answered. “This is a time to lead up the chain of
command, as we wrote about and most of you have read in Extreme
Ownership, chapter ten.”
I explained to the company’s leaders that they must carefully prioritize
where to push back. It can’t be for everything. If they did, their concerns
would not be taken seriously when it truly mattered. But when the strategic
mission or the ultimate good of the team was at risk, those were the times that
a leader must push back. To not do so, I told them, was to fail as a leader; to
fail the team and the mission.
“This is not a new concept,” I explained. “Over two hundred years ago,
Napoléon Bonaparte addressed this very issue. In his Military Maxims,
Napoléon states:
Every general-in-chief who undertakes to execute a plan which he
knows to be bad, is culpable. He should communicate his reasons,
insist on a change of plan, and finally resign his commission, rather
than become the instrument of his army’s ruin.5
“If you’re passive, if you don’t push back,” I said, “you aren’t leading up
the chain of command. The boss needs and wants your honest feedback on
this. He may not even know it,” I said jokingly.
The rest of the group chuckled. The CEO also smiled. He clearly realized
he had been overbearing in this situation. In his zeal to provide a strategic
solution for the team, he hadn’t fully heard them, answered their questions, or
investigated their legitimate concerns.
“Honestly,” the CEO said, “I thought you all were just pushing back on
this because you were resistant to change. Not because you had concerns
about the new system.
“I realize now I should have asked for your input with a listening ear,” he
continued. “Rather than shut you down the first time I heard pushback.”
It was a huge learning point for the CEO and a big lesson learned going
forward for the team. For the sake of the company and the mission, the CEO
needed to seek feedback and address the concerns of his key leaders. He
needed to encourage his department heads to voice their opinions and express
their disagreements. The CEO had made the common mistake of not fully
recognizing the power of his position. He was the boss. He held the power.
And most people wouldn’t exercise the courage to confront that head-on. It
was important the CEO fully recognize the power of his position and the
reality of a general reluctance to confront it.
For the department heads and other key leaders on the team, it was a
wake-up call that they were failing the team—they were culpable if they
didn’t push back and provide clear and direct feedback up the chain to fully
explain the negative impact to the company’s strategic objectives. Once the
CEO understood their causes for concern, he relented and empowered the
frontline leaders to develop their own solution for a new software system.
Delta Platoon commander, Lieutenant Seth Stone (center left), leads a joint patrol of Task Unit Bruiser
SEALs, U.S. Marines and Soldiers, along with Iraqi Army troops through the Malaab District of eastern
Ramadi. While the surrounding team members lock down potential threats, Lieutenant Stone detaches
mentally and scans the area, plotting the team’s next measures.
(Courtesy of the U.S. Navy. Photograph taken by Mate Second Class Sam Peterson.)
CHAPTER 12
Focused, but Detached
Leif Babin
Principle
Naturally, leaders must be attentive to details. However, leaders cannot be so
immersed in the details that they lose track of the larger strategic situation
and are unable to provide command and control for the entire team.
In combat, when you look down the sights of your weapon, your field of
view becomes narrow and focused. Your vision is restricted by the small
aperture of your weapons sight. You cannot see what is happening around
you or the team. It is critical, then, to ensure that a leader’s default weapon
position should be at high port—gun pointed at the sky, standing back to
observe with the widest field of vision possible. This enables a leader to look
around and even move around, where he or she can best provide command
and control for the team. Most important, it allows a leader to keep the larger,
overarching goals of the mission in perspective. The analogy applies directly
to non-combat situations. It is no different in the business world, where
leaders must ensure they don’t get sucked into the tactical details but
maintain the ability to detach.
In Extreme Ownership, chapter 7, “Prioritize and Execute,” we wrote:
When confronted with the enormity of operational plans and the
intricate microterrain within those plans, it becomes easy to get lost in
the details.… It is crucial … for leaders … to “pull themselves off the
firing line,” step back, and maintain the strategic picture.
This key concept resonated with many readers and helped them improve
their leadership skills. Detachment is also an ongoing issue with which many
leaders struggle. Leaders cannot allow themselves to get so obsessed by the
details that they lose focus on the bigger picture. It is essential for leaders to
understand that this should be their default mind-set, so they can always be
aware of it. If they don’t maintain a position above the fray, then leaders are
failing their team and failing the mission.
What we didn’t clearly articulate in Extreme Ownership is the need to
balance somewhere between understanding the details and becoming
completely submerged and overwhelmed by them. Leaders can’t get so far
away—so detached—that they lose track of what’s happening on the front
lines. Leaders must still be attentive to the details, understand the challenges
of the teams executing the mission at the front echelon, and position
themselves where they can best support their teams. This is the dichotomy
that must be balanced: to become engrossed in and overwhelmed by the
details risks mission failure, but to be so far detached from the details that the
leader loses control is to fail the team and fail the mission.
Application to Business
“For some reason, I wasn’t thinking about this in my office yesterday,” said
Rob. “But sitting here in the classroom today, it’s all of a sudden very clear
where we as a company should be focused to improve our process and
increase profitability.
“Modularization,” Rob continued. “We need to be thinking
modularization in everything that we do. This will help us reduce extensive
man-hours on-site that generate huge costs. It will increase our efficiency and
help project managers cut down operating expenses.”
“That sounds promising,” I remarked. “It’s a great observation and one I’d
like to dive into in more detail with everyone here. But before we do that,
let’s pull back for a second and analyze why this is all of a sudden clear to
you. Why do you think you weren’t thinking about this yesterday? Why is it
so easy to see now?” I asked Rob.
For the leaders in the room, understanding the answer to this question was
paramount. The recognition and understanding of the Dichotomy of
Leadership—the opposing forces that must be balanced—served as a
powerful leadership tool to help each of them lead and win.
* * *
I stood in front of a classroom of fifteen senior leaders of a highly successful
company. Echelon Front had been hired to run a Leadership Development
and Alignment Program for their senior leaders. Most of the participants were
division managers, with a wealth of experience and knowledge in their
industry. The company had generated a record of success and built a solid
reputation that enabled them to make substantial gains on competitors and
increase their market share. As the company grew, the senior executive team
wisely noted that they had no formal leadership training program for their
senior leaders, and one was warranted. They asked Echelon Front to develop
a program to help build into the culture of their team the principles of
Extreme Ownership they’d read about. After an initial assessment with one-
on-one interviews of participants and discussion with each participant’s boss,
we launched the kickoff with an intensive, full-day training session. We then
scheduled follow-on training events at rotating locations throughout the
company’s operating region every few weeks.
Here, at the third training session, a number of the leaders had traveled
from their territories and the home offices where they spent much of their
time. Independent of the content I presented and the questions and
discussions generated, the requirement for each participant to pull away from
his or her daily grind brought significant benefits. It forced them to detach.
Removed from the details, pressures, and pressing deadlines of the front
lines, they found it easier to see the strategic priorities with clarity and how
best to achieve them. This concept of detachment was a critical leadership
skill on and off the battlefield, in business, and in life.
I repeated the question to Rob and for everyone else in the group: “Why
do you think you weren’t thinking about this yesterday? Why is it all of a
sudden clear now?”
“Yesterday, I was making phone calls, dealing with immediate fires on a
couple of different projects, and pretty much buried in my e-mail in-box,”
Rob answered.
“You were immersed in the details, down in the weeds,” I said in
agreement. “And you have to be attentive to those details. You can’t pull
back too much. But you can’t obsess about the details. Your job as a leader is
to detach—stand back and see the bigger picture.
“Attending this training session has pulled you away from those details,” I
continued. “And as you sit here in the classroom, you’re detached. Now,
what needs to be done is much clearer. It’s a key lesson that you must learn.”
I relayed how I had learned this lesson in the SEAL Teams.
On the battlefield, as a leader, when you look down the sights of your
weapon, I explained, your field of vision is reduced from a hundred and
eighty degrees or more around you to only what you can see through the
small aperture of your scope or aiming device. The narrow view isn’t the
leader’s job. The leader’s job is to look around and see the bigger picture. I
recognized that in a SEAL platoon, which carried a massive amount of
firepower, my rifle didn’t count for much. But if I wasn’t looking around,
who was? No one. It was up to me.
“Leadership in the business world is no different,” I explained. “All of
you, as senior leaders, should be striving to detach so you can stand back,
gain perspective, and recognize where your priorities should be focused.
“But this is something you have to balance,” I continued. “You have to
detach. But you can’t be so detached that you don’t know what is going on.
Because if you don’t know what’s going on, you can’t help your team; you
can’t lead.”
To illustrate this dichotomy for the class, I told them how, as a SEAL
platoon commander, I found myself struggling with where to position myself
in the kill house during our close-quarters training, where the team practiced
clearing rooms and hallways in an urban environment. In my previous
platoon, I’d been told that as an officer, my role was to stand in the back of
the train.
“Why are you in the back of the train?” Jocko asked me, observing
Charlie Platoon’s runs through the kill house from the catwalk above.
“I thought that was where I was supposed to be,” I answered.
“Can you tell what’s going on with your guys at the front of the train?”
Jocko asked.
“I have no idea what’s going on up front,” I admitted. If I didn’t know
what was going on up front, how could I lead? I certainly couldn’t help the
team solve a particularly challenging problem, vector more resources to my
shooters, or provide proper command and control.
“If you don’t know what’s going on, you can’t lead,” Jocko told me. “You
can’t be in the back, because you don’t know what’s happening up front. You
can’t be all the way up front, because then you get sucked into every room
clearance, and then you’re too far into the tactical details to provide proper
command and control. Your position should be somewhere in the middle,
with the bulk of your forces, close enough to the front to know what is going
on, but far enough back that you aren’t in the weeds doing the tactical work.”
It made sense. It was simple, but Jocko’s guidance was illuminating. I
gained confidence and fully understood where I should be as a leader. Most
important, I realized I wasn’t stuck in a particular position. I could move
around to see what was happening and assist the team members where they
needed it the most. It was an important lesson that I never forgot.
* * *
“To find that careful balance,” I told the company’s senior leaders, “make
sure you don’t go to the extreme in either direction. I’ve seen SEAL leaders
and a number of business leaders who have gone too far. You must maintain
the balance: detached, but not so detached that you don’t know what’s going
on and can’t lead.
“Any leader, when things are going very badly for the team, has to step in
and help them solve problems. I have seen some leaders who felt they were
above solving problems. This is an extreme form of detachment, one we call
‘battlefield aloofness.’ It’s not a good thing. It can result in epic failure.”
I told the class how Jocko had used the term to describe an overly
detached SEAL leader while we were observing a SEAL task unit during a
training operation.
The SEAL was a task unit commander, serving as the ground force
commander during a field training exercise in a MOUT (military operations
in urban terrain) facility. His platoons were heavily engaged in a difficult
tactical problem inside one of the large cinder-block buildings, with multiple
role-players attacking them with paintball rounds. The task unit had pulled its
vehicles to a stop outside of the target building, and their assault force had
dismounted and entered the building. Immediately, they were heavily
engaged by a number of well-entrenched “enemy fighters”—actually SEAL
instructors and role-players. Quickly, several SEALs were hit and the training
instructors put them down, meaning they were simulated killed or severely
wounded. The rest of the SEAL assault force was pinned down inside the
target building. They needed help, resources, guidance, and direction. Jocko
and I, inside the house observing the SEAL platoons in action, waited for
someone to step up and assist, but it never came.
“Where is the task unit commander?” Jocko asked, after several painful
minutes of watching the problem escalate. I looked around but didn’t see
him.
“I think he is still outside in his Humvee,” I observed.
Jocko and I walked outside of the target building. The task unit
commander was nowhere to be seen.
Finally, we approached the line of Humvees parked on the street outside
the target building. We found the task unit commander inside, sitting
comfortably in his seat. We opened the heavy armored door of his Humvee.
“What’s crappening?” I said, borrowing a favorite phrase from our brother
and former Task Unit Bruiser Delta Platoon commander, Seth Stone. The TU
commander said nothing.
“What’s going on in there?” Jocko asked the task unit commander,
motioning toward the target building where his team was pinned down.
The task unit commander didn’t have an answer. He looked down at his
map but never moved from his seat in the back of the Humvee.
“I’m waiting for a status update,” he responded, as if he were perfectly on
top of things.
He keyed up his radio. “What’s your status?” he asked, directed at his
platoon commander—the assault force commander in the house. Jocko and I
both wore radios and monitored the task unit’s communications network so
we could listen in on their radio traffic and evaluate the leadership’s
communications between one another.
There was no answer over the radio. The platoon commander and much of
his team were pinned down in a horrific gun battle inside the house. They had
several simulated casualties and were trying to pull them out of a hot hallway
—meaning bullets were flying down the hallway. The platoon commander
was not in a position to even hear the radio transmission, much less respond
to it.
“I need a status update,” the task unit commander repeated on the radio
net.
No status update was sent. Another half minute of silence passed.
“So, what’s going on?” Jocko asked again.
“I don’t know,” the task unit commander replied. “I’m waiting for a status
update.”
Jocko turned and looked at me, puzzled.
“Maybe you should move toward your assault force commander and go
get a status update,” I said. “You aren’t stuck in the vehicle. Move around to
wherever you can best provide command and control. Or, you can sit here in
your Humvee and wait for everyone to die.”
With that, the TU commander got out of the vehicle and moved toward
the target building to try and figure out what was happening.
“Battlefield aloofness,” Jocko said. “That’s the best term I can think of for
that level of detachment.” It meant that the leader was so detached, he had no
idea what was going on. If there were problems, he expected someone else to
solve them. This task unit commander actually seemed annoyed that he had
to step out of the Humvee and lead. But he quickly learned that when the
team is on the verge of disaster, it’s time for the senior leader to put
detachment aside and step into the fray, to solve problems and help the team.
It’s time to lead. Once those problems are getting solved, the leader can then
step back to a position of detachment.
* * *
With this, I illustrated for the classroom of leaders how it was essential to
balance the dichotomy: to remain focused, but also detached. Now, the class
understood how they could best apply this concept, find the equilibrium, and
lead their teams to victory.
NOTES
Preface
1. In accordance with U.S. Department of Defense policy, the term “Soldier” will be capitalized for
“U.S. Soldier” as will “Marine” for “U.S. Marine” throughout the book.
Introduction: Finding the Balance
1. Mk48: Mark 48, a 7.62mm NATO medium machine gun designed specifically for the U.S. Navy
SEAL Teams, and the big brother of the Mark 46, a lighter medium machine gun in the smaller
caliber of 5.56mm NATO.
2. IED: U.S. military acronym for improvised explosive device, the deadly roadside bombs that were
the insurgency’s primary and most effective weapon.
Chapter 1: The Ultimate Dichotomy
1. Medevac: stands for medical evacuation, the movement and en route care provided by medical
personnel to the wounded being evacuated from the battlefield to a medical treatment facility, or the
transfer of patients from one medical treatment facility to another by medical personnel. Similar but
slightly different from casevac, or casualty evacuation.
2. Team Bulldog: Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, 37th Armored Regiment, 1st Armored Division.
3. 1/506th: 1st Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment of the U.S. Army’s 101st Airborne
Division. 506th was the legendary “Band of Brothers” unit whose World War II exploits were
detailed in the book Band of Brothers by Stephen Ambrose and the HBO series of the same name
based on the book.
Chapter 2: Own It All, but Empower Others
1. High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle, or HMMWV, spoken as “Humvee.”
2. Crash grenade, or “flash bang” grenade, a nonlethal device that creates a bright flash and loud
explosion meant to stun but not injure.
3. Deconflict: a U.S. military term for detailed coordination between units to integrate timelines,
ensure maximum support to each other, and prevent friendly fire or “blue-on-blue” incidents.
4. 0700 military time, based on the twenty-four-hour clock, equivalent to 7:00 a.m. civilian time, based
on the twelve-hour clock.
Chapter 4: When to Mentor, When to Fire
1. Esprit de corps: the common spirit existing in the members of a group inspiring enthusiasm,
devotion, and a strong regard for the honor of the group (Merriam-Webster dictionary).
Chapter 5: Train Hard, but Train Smart
1. Simunition: nonlethal training ammunition used by military and law enforcement that provides
realistic training. It consists of paint rounds fired through the modified barrels of actual weapons
systems.
2. Black Hawk Down, a book by Mark Bowden (also a Hollywood film based on the book), depicting
the story of the Battle of Mogadishu between U.S. special operations forces and local Somali
militants in October 1993.
3. About Face: The Odyssey of an American Warrior, by Colonel David H. Hackworth (U.S. Army,
Ret.) and Julie Sherman (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1989).
Chapter 6: Aggressive, Not Reckless
1. A term commonly attributed to Carl von Clausewitz (1780–1831), Prussian general and military
theorist, who wrote, “War is the realm of uncertainty,” in his book, On War. Note: Clausewitz never
actually used the term “fog of war.”
2. IED emplacer: the U.S. military term for insurgents who planted deadly IEDs, or roadside bombs.
3. Profit and Loss statement.
Chapter 9: A Leader and a Follower
1. M134 GAU-17 minigun: a 7.62 × 51mm NATO, electrically driven weapon that fires four thousand
rounds per minute through six rotating barrels.
Chapter 11: Humble, Not Passive
1. Mujahideen: Arabic for those who waged jihad; the term Iraqi insurgents called themselves. U.S.
forces shortened this to muj.
2. OP VA: Observation Post Veterans Affairs; the location of the U.S. Marine outpost in the former
Iraqi Veterans Affairs building.
3. We later changed the name from Sharkbase to Camp Marc Lee, after Marc was killed in action on
August 2, 2006.
4. In U.S. military terminology, “combined” meant multinational and “joint” meant multiservice,
including different branches of the U.S. military.
5. Military Maxims of Napoléon, translated from the French by J. Akerly (New York: Wiley and
Putnam, 1845), Maxim LXXII.
Chapter 12: Focused, but Detached
1. Jundhi or jundi: Arabic for “soldier,” the term Iraqi soldiers called themselves and commonly used
by U.S. military advisors in Iraq.
Task Unit Bruiser SEALs from Charlie Platoon patrol on foot back to friendly territory following the
first major operation of the Ready First Brigade Combat Team’s (1st Brigade of the U.S. Army’s 1st
Armored Division) “Seize, Clear, Hold, Build” strategy to take back Ramadi from enemy insurgents.
Task Unit Bruiser SEALs and Iraqi soldiers supported the “Seize, Clear” portion of that strategy with
sniper overwatches, patrols, and clearance operations alongside the courageous Soldiers and Marines of
the Ready First Brigade. Once back in friendly territory, they would quickly reload, refit, and plan the
next operation for Task Unit Bruiser. This photo was taken on the day following the events described in
the opening of Chapter 3.
(Photo courtesy of the authors)
AFTERWORD
The index that appeared in the print version of this title does not match the
pages in your eBook. Please use the search function on your eReading device
to search for terms of interest. For your reference, the terms that appear in the
print index are listed below.
About Face: The Odyssey of an American Warrior (Hackworth)
accidental discharge (AD)
accountability
customer relationship management systems and
equipment and
Extreme Ownership and
leadership and
accountability vs. empowerment conflicts
business application for
explanations and
AD. See accidental discharge
“advanced tactics”
aggressiveness
as default position
leadership and
rapid expansion in business and
risk and
SEAL Teams and
in “VietRam”
aggressiveness vs. caution conflicts
analysis informing
business application for
cash flow and
“disease of victory” and
stretch goals and
AK-47 gunfire
aloofness, battlefield
ammo tables
AOIC. See assistant officer in charge
appearance, SEAL Team professionalism and
Army, professionalism of
arrogance
experience and
success breeding
asking questions, in communication
assistant officer in charge (AOIC)
authoritarianism, leadership and
back plates
Bajema, Mike “Main Gun”
balance in leadership. See also Dichotomies of Leadership
aggressiveness and
in detachment vs. focus conflicts
discipline and
for Extreme Ownership and Decentralized Command
for hands-off leadership and micromanagement
hard training and
humility vs. passivity conflicts and
overcorrection of
relationships and
Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL Training (BUD/S)
Battle of Ramadi, 2006
boat travel in
census operations in
C-Lake operation and
Firecracker Circle and
friendly fire and
Habbaniyah Canal in
hard training for
insurgents in
“Mav Market” and
Route Michigan in
“Seize, Clear, Hold, Build” strategy for
South-Central firefight in
Task Unit Bruiser risks in
terrain challenges in
threats and dangers in
“VietRam” in
battlefield aloofness
Berke, Dave
“Big Mix-It-Up” firefights
Big Tough Frogmen. See Task Unit Bruiser
Black Hawk Down scenario
blame, Extreme Ownership and
“blue-on-blue.” See friendly fire
boat travel, in Battle of Ramadi, 2006
Bonaparte, Napoléon
boss, improving relationships with
breach teams
BUD/S. See Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL Training
burdens, of leadership
business
accountability vs. empowerment conflicts application for
aggressiveness vs. caution conflicts application for
cell phones and meetings in
contingency planning application for
Decentralized Command for
declining sales in
de-escalation in
detachment vs. focus conflicts application in
discipline vs. rigidity conflicts application for
“Easy Button” in
employee feedback in
following for leading application in
hard training applications for
humility vs. passivity conflicts application in
leadership training application for
mentorship vs. firing conflicts application for
micromanagement and meetings in
mission risk vs. care conflicts application for
overbearing vs. lenience conflicts application for
performance reviews in
sales scripts in
stretch goals in
JOCKO WILLINK (right) and LEIF BABIN served as U.S. Navy SEAL
officers in some of the toughest sustained urban combat in the history of the
SEAL teams. Their task unit, Naval Special Warfare Task Unit Bruiser, was
the most highly decorated special operations unit of the Iraq War. After
returning, Babin and Willink captured crucial lessons learned and trained the
next generation of SEAL leaders. In 2012 they founded Echelon Front, a
leadership training company that teaches others how to build, train, and lead
the most effective, high-performance, winning teams. Their first book,
Extreme Ownership, is a #1 New York Times bestseller. Jocko Willink has
also written the New York Times bestselling book Discipline Equals
Freedom: Field Manual, as well as the bestselling children’s books Way of
the Warrior Kid and Marc’s Mission, and hosts the top-rated podcast Jocko
Podcast.
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Frontispiece
Title Page
Copyright Notice
Dedication
Map
Preface
Notes
Afterword
Index
Also by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin
About the Authors
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