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The document discusses various timing advance processors (TAPs) for different types of ignition systems. It describes TAPs for mechanical breaker point ignition systems, electronic ignition systems with coil and distributor, and electronic systems with coil, distributor, and ignition module. For each TAP, it provides details on installation, setting, and checking procedures. The TAPs allow for adjusting ignition timing advance when switching between gasoline and LPG/CNG fuels.
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Timing Advance Processor New

The document discusses various timing advance processors (TAPs) for different types of ignition systems. It describes TAPs for mechanical breaker point ignition systems, electronic ignition systems with coil and distributor, and electronic systems with coil, distributor, and ignition module. For each TAP, it provides details on installation, setting, and checking procedures. The TAPs allow for adjusting ignition timing advance when switching between gasoline and LPG/CNG fuels.
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Timing Advance

Processor Manual
Index
1 Ignition system types
2 Timing advance processor list (TAP)
3 TAP definition and selection
4 TAP for breaker points Ignition System
4.1 AEB531 Installation
4.2 AEB531 Setting
4.3 AEB531 Checking
5 TAP for electronic ignition system with coil & distributor (AEB526N & AEB549N)
5.1 AEB526N & 549N Installation
5.2 AEB526N & 549N Setting
5.3 AEB526N Checking
5.4 AEB549N Checking
6 TAP for electronic ignition system with coil, distributor & ignition module (AEB515N Reprogrammable)
6.1 AEB515N Installation
6.2 AEB515N Setting
6.3 AEB515N Configuration identification
7 TAP for electronic ignition system with dual coil or one coil for cylinder (AEB510N – AEB516N – AEB511N – AEB518N – 628458000 Reprogrammable)
7.1 Signal checking and identification
7.2 Sensor type identification & suitable TAP
7.3 Specification of Crank shaft position sensor ,inductive type
7.4 Specification of Crank shaft position sensor ,Hall effect type
8 TAP for CKP sensor inductive type (AEB510N – AEB516N – Reprogrammable)
8.1 AEB510N Installation
8.3 AEB510N Setting
8.3 AEB516N Installation
8.4 AEB516N Setting
9 TAP for CKP sensor Hall effect type (AEB511N – AEB518N – 628458000 – Reprogrammable)
9.1 AEB511N Installation
9.2 AEB511N Setting
9.3 AEB518N Installation
9.4 AEB518N Setting
9.5 628458000 Installation
9.6 628458000 Setting

2
Chapter (1):
• Ignition types
• Mechanic Ignition system composed by:

1) Distributor with Breaker Points

2) Coil

1
2

3
Chapter (1):
• Ignition types
• Electronic Ignition system composed by:

1) Distributor

2) Ignition module

3) Coil

2
3
1

4
Chapter (1):
• Ignition types
• Electronic Ignition system composed by:

1) Distributor

2) Injection control unit

3) Coil

1 3

2
5
Chapter (1):
• Ignition types
• Electronic Ignition system composed by:

1) Distributor

2) Ignition module

3) Coil

4) Injection control unit

3
1

4
6
Chapter (1):
• Ignition types
• Electronic Ignition system composed by:

1) Dualcoil

2) Electronic Injection Unit

3) Crank shaft position sensor

2
1

3
1

7
Chapter (1):
• Ignition types
• Electronic Ignition system composed by:

1) One coil per cylinder

2) Electronic Injection Unit

3) Crank shaft position sensor

1 1 1 1

8
Chapter (2):
• Timing advance processor list

PLATINOS Code AEB531

JOKER N Code AEB549N

WOLF N Code AEB526N

PUMA Code AEB515N (reprogrammable)

COBRA Code AEB510N (reprogrammable)

SPIDER Code AEB511N (reprogrammable)

SHARK Code AEB516N (reprogrammable)

PANDA Code AEB518N (reprogrammable)

PANDA 3H Code 628458000 (reprogrammable)


9
Capitolo (3):
• TAP definition & selection

Mechanical AEB531
ignition

AEB526N
Coil & distributor
AEB549N

Check the
ignition
system
Electronic Coil, distributor & AEB515N
ignition ignition module Reprogrammable

AEB510N
CKP Sensor
AEB516N
inductive type
Reprogrammable

Dual coil or one Check the


coil for cylinder CKP sensor
AEB511N
CKP Sensor AEB518N
inductive hall
effect type 628458000
Reprogrammable

10
Chapter (4):
• TAP for breaker point ignition system – AEB531

PLATINOS
AEB531
11
Chapter (4.1):

• AEB531 Installation

Setting

Red Blue Yellow-Green DISTRIBUTOR WITH


BREAKER POINTS

Brown Black

TO GAS VALVE GROUND

CUT THE WIRE THAT RUN FROM THE


BREAKER POINTS TO THE IGNITION COIL
IGNITION POSITIVE (12V) COIL

12
Chapter (4.2):
• AEB531 Setting
SETTING

1) Start the engine in GAS mode

2) By using a timing-gun check (2) the original Ignition Timing Advance and note it (I.e. Original Timing Advance 20°)

3) Manually rotate the Ditributor (3) in order to advance the Ignition timing (Advance sugggested: LPG 9° more than the original, CNG
12° more than the original)

4) Switch the vehicle in gasoline mode then, adjusting the Trimmer (4), take the Ignition Advance back to the original value (point 2)
Check it by using the Timing-gun.

1
3
2

13
Chapter (4.3):

• AEB531 Checking

• Use an oscilloscope with 2 channels in gasoline mode:

A) Inpunt signal

B) Output signal delayed in order to compensate the advance of the


distributor Brown Black

B A

Scope setting
CH A: 5v/div
CH B: 10v/Div 14
Chapter (5):

• TAP for electronic ignition system with coil & distributor – AEB526N & AEB549N

WOLF N JOKER N
AEB526N AEB549N

15
Chapter (5):

• TAP for electronic ignition system with coil & distributor – AEB526N & AEB549N

WOLF N JOKER N
AEB526N AEB549N
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Chapter (5.1):

• AEB526N & AEB549N Installation

Red Blue Yellow-Green


Brown Black
TO GAS VALVE GROUND

IGNITION MODULE

CUT THE WIRE THAT RUN FROM THE


IGNITION MODULE OR PETROL ECU
COIL TO THE PRIMARY CIRCUIT OF THE
IGNITION COIL

IGNITION POSITIVE (12V)

17
Chapter (5.2):
• AEB526N & AEB549N Setting

1) Main Connection: connect to the harness included in the kit 4 Deafult Setting

2) Emergency Connector: use to bypass the TAP in case of failure


Number of cylinders setting – Switches 1 – 2
3) Red Led: it is ON when the TAP is working in gas mode and advancing; it is 4 6 8
5
OFF when the TAP is not working, the advance is disabled or the TAP is
damaged

4) Microswitches: use to set the TAP


Advance setting – Switches 3 – 4

12° 6° 9° 15°

Advance activation – Switches 5 – 6

Advance on idle Advance in Decelration


3 1 2 ON OFF ON OFF

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Chapter (5.3):

• AEB526N Checking
• Use an oscilloscope with 2 channels

A) Inpunt signal

B) Output signal when AEB526N is suitable

C) Input signal when the AEB526N is not suitable. In this case the
charging time H is longer than the 80% of the total period. Brown Black

C B A
h Scope setting
CH A: 20v/div
CH B: 20v/Div 19
Chapter (5.4):

• AEB549N Checking
• Use an oscilloscope with 2 channels

A) Inpunt signal

B) Output signal when AEB549N is suitable

C) Input signal when the AEB549N is not suitable. In this case the charging
time H is longer than the 10% than the original. Brown Black

D) Output signal when the AEB549N is not suitable; in this case the current
limitation time is 10% longer than the original.

C h

D B A
b Scope setting
CH A: 20v/div
CH B: 20v/Div 20
Chapter (6):

• TAP for electronic ignition system with coil, distributor & ignition module – AEB515N
reprogrammable

PUMA
AEB515N
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Chapter (6.1):

• AEB515N Installation

Red Blue Blue-Yellow Black

TO GAS VALVE GROUND


TO TPS SIGNAL
Pink-black Pink
PETROL ECU

COIL

CUT THE WIRE THAT RUNS FROM THE


PETROL ECU TO THE IGNITION MODULE
12V IGNITION

22
Chapter (6.2):

• AEB515N Setting
3
Default Setting
1) Main Connection: connection for the harness included in the kit

2) Red Led: it is ON when the TAP is working in gas mode and advancing;
it is OFF when the vehicle is in petrol mode, the advance is deactivated, Advance setting – Switches 1 – 2
the TAP is not suitable or damaged
12° 6° 9° 15°

3) Microswitches : used to set the TAP

4) Trimmer: used to set the advance threshold according to the TPS signal
4 Advance activation – Adjusting trimmer
5) Emergency connector: used to bypass the TAP in case of failure

Advance always Advance activated


activated according to TPS

5
4

3 1 2

23
Chapter (6.3):

• AEB515N Configuration identification


ONE ENGINE CYCLE (2 ENGINE REVOLUTIONS)
In case the ignition module signal is like in
3,5V picture (A) use the configuration:
A
AEB515N - STANDARD
12v
B

ONE ENGINE CYCLE (2 ENGINE REVOLUTIONS)


In case the ignition module signal is like in
12V picture (A) use the configuration:
A
AEB515N-01
12V
B

ONE ENGINE CYCLE (2 ENGINE REVOLUTIONS)

In case the ignition module signal is like in


12V
A picture (A) use the configuration:

AEB515N-07
12V
B

24
Chapter (7):
• TAP for electronics ignition systems with dualcoil or one coil per cylinder – AEB510N – AEB516N –
AEB511N – AEB518N – 628458000 – Reprogrammable

COBRA
AEB510N

SPIDER
AEB511N
Crank shaft
position sensor

SHARK
AEB516N

PANDA
AEB518N

PANDA 3H
Crank shaft 628458000
position sensor

25
Chapter (7.1):

• CKP sensor signal finding


• Use an oscilloscope with 2 channels
One engine revolution signal

A) Ignition coil signal (as a reference) A

B) Crank shaft position sensor signal


B

One engine revolution signal

B
A B

Scope setting
CH A: 10v/div
CH B: 5v/Div CRANCK SHAFT POSITION SENSOR

PETROL ECU

DUAL COIL
26
Chapter (7.1):
• CKP sensor signal finding
• Use an oscilloscope with 2 channels
One engine cycle signal (2 engine revolutions)

A) Ignition coil signal (as reference) A

B) Crank shaft position sensor signal B

One engine cycle signal (2 engine revolutions)

A B
B

Scope setting
CH A: 10v/div CRANCK SHAFT POSITION SENSOR
CH B: 5v/Div

PETROL ECU
DUAL COIL

27
Chapter (7.2):
• Sensor type identification & suitable TAP

INDUCTIVE SENSOR SIGNAL TYPE HALL EFFECT SENSOR SIGNAL TYPE

COBRA SHARK SPIDER PANDA PANDA 3H


AEB510N AEB516N AEB511N AEB518N 628458000
for inductive CKP for inductive CKP for hall effect CKP for hall effect CKP for hall effect CKP
sensor type; able to sensor type; able to sensor type; able to sensor type; able to sensor type and able
advance one CKP advance one CKP advance one CKP advance one CKP and to advance one CKP
and one CAM shaft and two CAM shaft and one CAM shaft one CAM shaft and two CAM shaft
sensors* sensors* sensors* sensor* sensors*

The Cam shaft sensor connection is not mandatory. Do it only if:

• The CAM shaft sensor signal is HALL EFFECT type.


• The gasoline ECU switches the MIL on and DTC is related to CAM & CKP sincronization.
• In case of Variable Valve Timing engines we suggest to use a newer TAP like AEB516N, AEB518N and
628458000
28
Chapter (7.3):
• Specification of the inductive Crank shaft position sensor

Sensor Description:
POSITIVE SIGNAL
Two wires sensor
 Positive signal
 Negative signal
Or
 Positive signal
 Ground

Three wires sensor


 Positive signal
 Negative signal
NEGATIVE SIGNAL

 Shield
Or
 Positive Signal
 Ground
 Shield

29
Chapter (7.4):

• Specification of the hall effect Crank shaft position sensor

3 wires sensor
12V
 Power Supply (it can be 12 or 5V)
 Ground
 Signal (it can be 12 or 5V)

5V

30
Chapter (8):

• TAP for CKP sensor inductive (AEB510N – AEB516N – Reprogrammable)

COBRA SHARK
AEB510N AEB516N
31
Chapter (8.1):
• AEB510N Installation

*Connect the CAM shaft sensors only if necessary (see pag 28)

Crank shaft
Cam shaft sensor* sensor

Green
Blue

Green-black
White
Red Blue-Yellow Black Blue

Positive signal
TO GAS VALVE
TO TPS SIGNAL GROUND
ADAPTER CABLE AEB410F
Black

Brown
12V IGNITION

Negative signal

32
Chapter (8.2):
• AEB510N Setting 3 Default Setting

1) Main Connection: connection for the harness included in the kit

2) Red Led: it is ON when the TAP is working in gas mode and advancing; it Advance setting – Switches 1 – 2
is OFF when the vehicle is in petrol mode, the advance is deactivated, the
12° 6° 9° 15°
TAP is not suitable or damaged

3) Microswitches: used to set the TAP

4) Trimmer: used to set the advance threshold according to the TPS signal Vehicle type setting – Switch 3

5) Emergency connector: used to bypass the TAP in case of failure Renault & Volvo

all others vehicles

4 Advance activation – Adjusting trimmer

5
Advance always Advance activated
4 activated according to TPS

3 1 2

33
Chapter (8.3):
• AEB516N Installation

Cam shaft sensor1*


Cam shaft sensor2* Crank shaft sensor

Yellow Green

Blue
Yellow-Black Green-black

White

Red Positive signal


Blue-Yellow Black Blue Brown
ADAPTER CABLE AEB410F
Black

TPS SIGNAL GROUND GAS VALVE OPTIONAL RPM OUTPUT FOR GAS ECU
Brown

12V IGNITION • Connect the CAM shaft sensors only if necessary (see pag 28) & REPROGRAM
THE TAP WITH THE CORRECT CONFIGURATION where the advance must
Negative signal
be activated in one or both the cam shafts sensors

34
Chapter (8.4):

• AEB516N Setting
3 Default Setting

1) Main Connection: connection for the harness included in the kit

2) Red Led: it is ON when the TAP is working in gas mode and advancing; Advance setting – Switches 1 – 2
it is OFF when the vehicle is in petrol mode, the advance is deactivated,
the TAP is not suitable or damaged
12° 6° 9° 15°

3) Microswitches: used to set the TAP

4) Trimmer: used to set the advance threshold according to the TPS signal
4 Advance activation – Adjusting trimmer
5) Emergency connector: used to bypass the TAP in case of failure

Advance always Advance activated


activated according to TPS

5
4

3 1 2

35
Chapter (9):

• TAP for CKP hall effect (AEB511N – AEB518N – 628458000 – Reprogrammable)

SPIDER PANDA PANDA 3H


AEB511N AEB518N 628458000

36
Chapter (9.1):
• AEB511N – Installation

* Connect the CAM shaft sensors only if necessary (see pag 28)

Cam shaft sensor*

Green
Crank shaft sensor

Green-black
Red Blue-Yellow Black Blue

Pink

TO TPS SIGNAL
Pink-Black

12V IGNITION GROUND TO GAS VALVE

37
Chapter (9.2):

• AEB511N – Setting
3 Default Setting

1) Main Connection: connection fo the harness included in the kit

Advance setting – Switches 1 – 2


2) Red Led: it is ON when the TAP is working in gas mode and advancing;
it is OFF when the vehicle is in petrol mode, the advance is deactivated,
the TAP is not suitable or damaged 9° 15°

3) Microswitches: used to set the TAP

4) Trimmer: used to set the advance threshold according to the TPS signal 4 Advance activation – Adjusting trimmer

5) Emergency connector: used to bypass the TAP in case of failure Advance always Advance activated
activated according to TPS

5
4

3 1 2

38
Chapter (9.3):
• AEB518N – Installation

* Connect the CAM shaft sensors only if necessary (see pag


28) & REPROGRAM THE TAP WITH THE CORRECT
CONFIGURATION where the advance must be activated in
the cam shaft sensor

Cam shaft sensor*

OPTIONAL RPM OUTPUT FOR GAS ECU

Brown

Green
Crank shaft sensor

Green-black

Red Blue-Yellow Black Blue

Pink

TO TPS SIGNAL
Pink-Black

TO GAS VALVE
12V IGNITION GROUND

39
Chapter (9.4):

• 518N – Setting
3 Default Setting

1) Main Connection: connection fo the harness included in the kit

2) Red Led: it is ON when the TAP is working in gas mode and advancing; Advance setting – Switches 1 – 2
it is OFF when the vehicle is in petrol mode, the advance is deactivated,
the TAP is not suitable or damaged
9° 15°

3) Microswitches: used to set the TAP

4) Trimmer: used to set the advance threshold according to the TPS signal
4 Advance activation – Adjusting trimmer
5) Emergency connector: used to bypass the TAP in case of failure

Advance always Advance activated


activated according to TPS

5
4

3 1 2

40
Chapter (9.5):
• 628458000 – Installation

OPTIONAL RPM OUTPUT FOR GAS ECU

Cam shaft sensor1*


Cam shaft sensor2*
Brown

Yellow Green

Crank shaft sensor


Yellow-black Green-black

Pink

Pink-Black
Red Blue-Yellow Black
Blue

* Connect the CAM shaft sensors only if necessary (see pag


12V IGNITION TO TPS SIGNAL GROUND
TO GAS VALVE 28) & REPROGRAM THE TAP WITH THE RIGHT
CONFIGURATION where the advance must be activated in
one or both the cam shaft sensors

41
Chapter (9.6):
• 628458000 – Setting
3 Default Setting

1) Main Connection: connection fo the harness included in the kit

2) Red Led: it is ON when the TAP is working in gas mode and advancing; Advance setting – Switches 1 – 2
it is OFF when the vehicle is in petrol mode, the advance is deactivated,
the TAP is not suitable or damaged
9° 15°

3) Microswitches: used to set the TAP

4) Trimmer: used to set the advance threshold according to the TPS signal
4 Advance activation – Adjusting trimmer
5) Emergency connector: used to bypass the TAP in case of failure

Advance always Advance activated


activated according to TPS

5
4

3 1 2

42

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