2005-08 ELECTRICAL

Charging System - RL
COMPONENT LOCATION INDEX
Fig. 1: Identifying Charging System Components Location
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SYMPTOM TROUBLESHOOTING INDEX
SYMPTOM TROUBLESHOOTING INDEX
Symptom Diagnostic procedure
Charging system indicator does not come on
with the ignition switch ON (II),
Troubleshoot the charging system indicator circuit
(see CHARGING SYSTEM INDICATOR
CIRCUIT TROUBLESHOOTING ).
Charging system indicator stays on

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CIRCUIT DIAGRAM
1. Check for PGM-FI DTCs.
2. Troubleshoot the charging system indicator
circuit (see CHARGING SYSTEM
INDICATOR CIRCUIT
TROUBLESHOOTING ).
3. Check for a broken drive belt (see DRIVE
BELT INSPECTION ).
4. Check the drive belt auto-tensioner (see
DRIVE BELT AUTO-TENSIONER
INSPECTION ).
Battery discharged
1. Check for excessive parasitic current draw
with the ignition switch OFF, and the key
removed. The multiplex control units may
take up to 10 minutes to turn off (sleep mode)
for some models.
2. Check for a broken drive belt (see DRIVE
BELT INSPECTION ).
3. Check the drive belt auto-tensioner (see
DRIVE BELT AUTO-TENSIONER
INSPECTION ).
4. Troubleshoot the alternator and regulator
circuit (see ALTERNATOR AND
REGULATOR CIRCUIT
TROUBLESHOOTING ).
5. Check for a poor connection at the battery
terminal.
6. Test the battery (see BATTERY TEST ).
Battery overcharged
1. Troubleshoot the alternator and regulator
circuit (see ALTERNATOR AND
REGULATOR CIRCUIT
TROUBLESHOOTING ).
2. Test the battery (see BATTERY TEST ).

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Fig. 2: Charging System Circuit Diagram
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CHARGING SYSTEM INDICATOR CIRCUIT TROUBLESHOOTING
1. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
Does the charging system indicator come on?
YES -Go to step 2.
NO -Go to step 11.

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2. Start the engine. Hold the engine speed at 2,000 RPM for 1 minute.
Does the charging system indicator go off?
YES -Charging system indicator circuit is OK. Go to the ALTERNATOR AND REGULATOR
CIRCUIT TROUBLESHOOTING .
NO -Go to step 3.
3. Do the gauge control module self-diagnostic function procedure (see SELF-DIAGNOSTIC
FUNCTION ).
Does the charging system indicator flash?
YES -Go to step 4.
NO -Replace the gauge control module (see GAUGE CONTROL MODULE REPLACEMENT ).
4. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
5. Disconnect the alternator 4P connector.
6. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
Does the charging system indicator go off?
YES -Replace the alternator (see ALTERNATOR REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION ), or repair
the alternator (see ALTERNATOR OVERHAUL ).
NO -Go to step 7.
7. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
8. Connect the HDS to the data link connector (DLC). Turn the ignition switch ON (II), and jump the
SCS line with the HDS, then turn the ignition switch OFF.
9. Disconnect PCM connector A (31P).
10. Check for continuity between PCM connector terminal A11 and body ground.
NOTE: This step must be done to protect the powertrain control module (PCM)
from damage.

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Fig. 3: Checking Continuity Between PCM Connector Terminal A11 And Body Ground
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Is there continuity?
YES -Repair short in the wire between the alternator and the PCM.
NO -Update the PCM if it does not have the latest software (see UPDATING THE PCM ), or
substitute a known-good PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE PCM ), then recheck. If the
symptom/indication goes away with a known-good PCM, replace the original PCM (see
SUBSTITUTING THE PCM ).
11. Do the gauge control module self-diagnostic function procedure (see SELF-DIAGNOSTIC
FUNCTION ).
Does the charging system indicator flash?
YES -Go to step 12.
NO -Replace the gauge control module (see GAUGE CONTROL MODULE REPLACEMENT ).
12. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
13. Disconnect the alternator 4P connector.
14. Connect alternator 4P connector terminal No. 3 and body ground with a jumper wire.
Fig. 4: Connecting Alternator 4P Connector Terminal No 3 And Body Ground With Jumper
Wire
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15. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
Does the charging system indicator come on?
YES -Replace the alternator (see ALTERNATOR REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION ), or repair
the alternator (see ALTERNATOR OVERHAUL ).
NO -Go to step 16.
16. Connect the HDS to the DLC. Turn the ignition switch ON (II), and jump the SCS line with the HDS,
then turn the ignition switch OFF.
17. Disconnect PCM connector A (31P).
18. Check for continuity between PCM connector terminal A11 and alternator 4P connector terminal No.
3.
Fig. 5: Checking Continuity Between PCM Connector Terminal A11 And Alternator 4P
Connector Terminal 3
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Is there continuity?
YES -Update the PCM if it does not have the latest software (see UPDATING THE PCM ), or
substitute a known-good PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE PCM ), then recheck. If the
symptom/indication goes away with a known-good PCM, replace the original PCM (see PCM
REPLACEMENT ).
NO -Repair open in the wire between the alternator and the PCM.
ALTERNATOR AND REGULATOR CIRCUIT TROUBLESHOOTING
1. Make sure the battery connections are good and the battery is fully charged (see BATTERY TEST ).
2. Remove the engine cover (see step 4 under REMOVAL ).
3. Connect a VAT-40 (or equivalent tester), and turn the selector switch to position 1 (starting).
NOTE: This step must be done to protect the PCM from damage.

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Fig. 6: Identifying VAT-40
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4. Start the engine. Hold the engine speed at 3,000 RPM, with no load until the radiator fan comes on,
then let it idle.
5. Raise the engine speed to 2,000 RPM, and hold it there.
Is the voltage over 15.1 V?
YES -Check the alternator mounting bolt torque. If they are loose, retorque them. If the bolts are tight,
replace the alternator (see ALTERNATOR REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION ) or rear housing
assembly (see ALTERNATOR OVERHAUL ).
NO -Go to step 6.
6. Release the accelerator pedal, and let the engine idle.
7. Turn off all the accessories. Select the charging test on the tester.
8. Remove the inductive pickup, and zero the ammeter.
9. Place the inductive pickup over the B terminal wire of the alternator so the arrow points away from
the alternator.
10. Raise the engine speed to 2,000 RPM, and hold it there.
Is the voltage less than 13.5 V?
YES -Go to ALTERNATOR CONTROL CIRCUIT TROUBLESHOOTING .
NO -Go to step 11.
11. Apply a load with the VAT-40 until the battery voltage drops within 12-13.5 V.

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Is the amperage 87.5 A or more?
YES -The charging system is OK.
NO -Replace the alternator (see ALTERNATOR REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION ), or repair
the alternator (see ALTERNATOR OVERHAUL ).
ALTERNATOR CONTROL CIRCUIT TROUBLESHOOTING
1. Connect the HDS to the data link connector (DLC), and check for DTCs. If a DTC is present,
diagnose and repair the cause before continuing with this test.
2. Disconnect the alternator 4P connector from the alternator.
3. Start the engine, and turn on the headlights to high beam.
4. Measure the voltage between alternator 4P connector terminal No. 2 and the positive terminal of the
battery.
Fig. 7: Measuring Voltage Between Alternator 4P Connector Terminal 2 And Battery Positive
Terminal
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Is there 1 V or less?
YES -Go to step 5.
NO -Go to step 8.
5. J ump the SCS line with the HDS, then turn the ignition switch OFF.
6. Disconnect PCM connector A (31P).
7. Check for continuity between PCM connector terminal A24 and body ground.
NOTE: If the charging system indicator is still on, replace the alternator (see
ALTERNATOR REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION ).
NOTE: This step must be done to protect the powertrain control module (PCM)
from damage.

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Fig. 8: Checking Continuity Between PCM Connector Terminal A24 And Body Ground
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Is there continuity?
YES -Repair short in the wire between the alternator and the PCM.
NO -Update the PCM if it does not have the latest software (see UPDATING THE PCM ), or
substitute a known-good PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE PCM ), then recheck. If the
symptom/indication goes away with a known-good PCM, replace the original PCM (see PCM
REPLACEMENT ).
8. J ump the SCS line with the HDS, then turn the ignition switch OFF.
9. Disconnect PCM connector A (31P).
10. Check for continuity between PCM connector terminal A24 and alternator 4P connector terminal No.
2.
Fig. 9: Checking Continuity Between PCM Connector Terminal A24 And Alternator 4P
Connector Terminal 2
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Is there continuity?
YES -Replace the alternator (see ALTERNATOR REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION ), or repair
the alternator (see ALTERNATOR OVERHAUL ).
NOTE: This step must be done to protect the PCM from damage.

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NO -Repair open in the wire between the alternator and the PCM.
DRIVE BELT INSPECTION
1. Remove the right upper fender trim.
Fig. 10: Identifying Right Upper Fender Trim
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2. Inspect the belt for cracks or damage. If the belt is cracked or damaged, replace it.
3. Check that the auto-tensioner indicator (A) is within the standard range (B) as shown. If it is out of the
standard range, replace the drive belt (see DRIVE BELT REPLACEMENT ).
Fig. 11: Identifying Auto-Tensioner Indicator Range
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DRIVE BELT REPLACEMENT

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Special Tools Required
Belt tension release tool Span-on YA9317 or equivalent, commercially available
1. Remove the right upper fender trim.
Fig. 12: Identifying Right Upper Fender Trim
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2. Remove the engine cover (see step 4 under REMOVAL ).
3. Move the auto-tensioner (A) using the belt tension release tool in the direction shown to relieve
tension from the drive belt, then remove the drive belt.
Fig. 13: Moving Auto-Tensioner Using Belt Tension Release Tool
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4. Install the new belt in the reverse order of removal.
DRIVE BELT AUTO-TENSIONER INSPECTION
Special Tools Required

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Belt tension release tool Span-on YA9317 or equivalent, commercially available
1. Remove the right upper fender trim (see step 1 ).
2. Turn the ignition switch ON (II), and make sure to turn the A/C switch OFF. Turn the ignition switch
OFF.
3. Check the position of the auto-tensioner indicator's pointer (A). Start the engine, then check the
position again with the engine idling. If the position of the indicator moves or fluctuates a lot, replace
the auto-tensioner (see DRIVE BELT AUTO-TENSIONER REPLACEMENT ).
Fig. 14: Identifying Auto-Tensioner Indicator's Pointer
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4. Check for abnormal noise from the tensioner pulley. If you hear any abnormal noise, replace the auto-
tensioner pulley (see TENSIONER PULLEY REPLACEMENT ).
5. Remove the drive belt (see DRIVE BELT REPLACEMENT ).
6. Move the auto-tensioner within its limit using the belt tension release tool in the direction shown.
Check that the tensioner moves smoothly and without any abnormal noise. If the tensioner does not
move smoothly, or you hear abnormal noises, replace the auto-tensioner (see DRIVE BELT AUTO-
TENSIONER REPLACEMENT ).
Fig. 15: Moving Auto-Tensioner Within Its Limit Using Belt Tension Release Tool
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7. Remove the auto-tensioner (see DRIVE BELT AUTO-TENSIONER REPLACEMENT ).
8. Clamp the auto-tensioner (A) by using a 10 mm bolt (B), 8 mm bolt (C), and a vise (D) as shown. Do
not clamp the auto-tensioner itself.

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Fig. 16: Identifying Auto-Tensioner And Vise
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9. Attach a torque wrench (A) to the pulley bolt. Measure the torque when the tensioner is turned
counterclockwise. If the torque is less than the specified value, replace the auto-tensioner (see DRIVE
BELT AUTO-TENSIONER REPLACEMENT ).
Auto-tensioner Spring Torque
50.5 N.m (5.15 kgf.m, 37.2 lbf.ft)
Fig. 17: Measuring Auto-Tensioner Spring Torque
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DRIVE BELT AUTO-TENSIONER REPLACEMENT
1. Remove the drive belt (see DRIVE BELT REPLACEMENT ).
2. Remove the splash shield (see step 5 ).
3. Remove the auto-tensioner.

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Fig. 18: Identifying Auto-Tensioner With Torque Specifications
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4. Install the auto-tensioner in the reverse order of removal.
TENSIONER PULLEY REPLACEMENT
1. Remove the auto-tensioner (see DRIVE BELT AUTO-TENSIONER REPLACEMENT ).
2. Remove the pulley bolt (A) (left-hand threads), and remove the tensioner pulley (B).
Fig. 19: Identifying Pulley Bolt And Tensioner Pulley With Torque Specifications
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3. Install the tensioner pulley in the reverse order of removal.
ALTERNATOR REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION
REMOVAL
1. Make sure you have the anti-theft codes for the audio system and navigation system. Make sure the
ignition switch is OFF.
2. Remove the right upper fender trim (A), battery trim (B), left upper fender trim (C), then remove the
upper grille cover (D).
Fig. 20: Identifying Right/Left Upper Fender Trim, Battery Trim And Upper Grille Cover
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3. Disconnect the negative cable from the battery.
4. Raise the vehicle on the lift to full height.
5. Remove the splash shield.
Fig. 21: Identifying Splash Shield
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6. Remove the harness clamps (A) and connector (B) from the A/C condenser fan shroud.
Fig. 22: Identifying Harness Clamps And A/C Condenser Fan Shroud Connector
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7. Loosen the two bolts (C) securing the A/C condenser fan shroud.
8. Lower the vehicle on the lift.
9. Disconnect the fan motor connector (A), and remove the reserve tank (B).
Fig. 23: Identifying Fan Motor Connector And Reserve Tank
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10. Remove the two bolts (C), then remove the A/C condenser fan shroud.
11. Remove the drive belt (see DRIVE BELT REPLACEMENT ).
12. Disconnect the alternator connector (A) and BLK wire (B) from the alternator.

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Fig. 24: Identifying Alternator Connector And BLK Wire
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13. Remove the bolt (C) securing the harness holder.
14. Remove the mounting bolt (A) and alternator bracket mounting bolt (B), then remove the alternator.
Fig. 25: Identifying Alternator Bracket Mounting Bolt
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INSTALLATION
1. Install the alternator.

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Fig. 26: Identifying Alternator With Torque Specifications
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2. Connect the alternator connector (A) and the BLK wire (B) to the alternator.
Fig. 27: Identifying Alternator Connector And BLK Wire With Torque Specifications
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3. Install the bolt (C) securing the harness holder.
4. Install the drive belt (see DRIVE BELT INSPECTION ).
5. Install the A/C condenser fan shroud (A), and tighten the bolts.

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Fig. 28: Identifying A/C Condenser Fan Shroud, Fan Motor Connector And Reserve Tank With
Torque Specifications
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6. Connect the fan motor connector (B), and install the reserve tank (C).
7. Raise the vehicle on the lift to full height.
8. Tighten the two bolts (A) securing the A/C condenser fan shroud.
Fig. 29: Identifying Harness Clamps And A/C Condenser Fan Shroud Connector With Torque
Specifications
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9. Install the harness clamps (B) and connector (C) to the A/C condenser fan shroud.
10. Install the splash shield.

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Fig. 30: Identifying Splash Shield
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11. Lower the vehicle on the lift.
12. Connect the negative cable to the battery.
13. Install the upper grille cover (A), then install the left upper fender trim (B), battery trim (C), and right
upper fender trim (D).
Fig. 31: Identifying Upper Grille Cover, Right/Left Upper Fender Trim And Battery Trim
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14. Do the steering column position memorization procedure (see STEERING COLUMN POSITION
MEMORIZATION ).
15. Enter the anti-theft codes for the audio system and navigation system.
ALTERNATOR OVERHAUL
EXPLODED VIEW

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Fig. 32: Exploded View Of Alternator
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Special Tools Required
Handle driver 07749-0010000
Attachment, 42 x 47 mm 07746-0010300
ALTERNATOR DISASSEMBLY
1. Test the alternator and regulator before you remove them (see ALTERNATOR AND
REGULATOR CIRCUIT TROUBLESHOOTING ).
2. Remove the alternator (see ALTERNATOR REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION ).
3. If the front bearing needs replacing, remove the pulley locknut with a 10 mm wrench (A) and a 22
mm wrench (B). If necessary, use an impact wrench.
NOTE: Refer to the EXPLODED VIEW as needed during this procedure.

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Fig. 33: Removing Pulley Locknut
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4. Remove the three flange nuts.
Fig. 34: Identifying Flange Nuts
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5. Remove the end cover (A) and the insulator (B). A.
Fig. 35: Identifying End Cover And Insulator
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6. Remove the brush holder (A).
Fig. 36: Identifying Brush Holder
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7. Remove the four bolts, then remove the rear housing assembly (A) and washer (B).
Fig. 37: Identifying Rear Housing Assembly And Washer
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8. If you are not replacing the front bearing, go to step 13. Remove the rotor from the drive-end housing.

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Fig. 38: Identifying Rotor And Drive-End Housing
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9. Inspect the rotor shaft for scoring, and inspect the bearing journal surface in the drive-end housing for
seizure marks.
If the rotor is damaged, replace the rotor assembly.
If the rotor is OK, go to step 10.
10. Remove the front bearing retainer plate.
Fig. 39: Identifying Front Bearing Retainer Plate
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11. Drive out the front bearing with a brass drift and hammer.

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Fig. 40: Removing Front Bearing
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12. Install a new front bearing in the drive-end housing with a hammer, the handle driver, and attachment
(42 x 47 mm).
Fig. 41: Installing Front Bearing
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Alternator Brush Inspection
13. Measure the length of both brushes (A) with a vernier caliper (B).
If either brush is shorter than the service limit, replace the brush holder assembly.
If the brush length is OK, go to step 14.
Alternator Brush Length
Standard (New): 10.5 mm (0.41 in.)
Service Limit: 1.5 mm (0.06 in.)

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Fig. 42: Measuring Length Of Brushes
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Rotor Slip Ring Test
14. Check for continuity between the slip rings (A).
If there is continuity, go to step 15.
If there is no continuity, replace the rotor assembly.
Fig. 43: Identifying Slip Rings, Rotor And Rotor Shaft
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15. Check for continuity between each slip ring and the rotor (B) and the rotor shaft (C).
If there is no continuity, replace the rear housing assembly, and go to step 16.
If there is continuity, replace the rotor assembly.
16. Assemble the alternator in the reverse order of disassembly, and note these items:
Be careful not to get any grease or oil on the slip rings.
If you removed the pulley, tighten its locknut to 110 N.m (11.2 kgf.m, 81.0 lbf.ft) when you
reinstall it.

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