Inverted Orthodoxy

Inverted Orthodoxy

We are three pastors of Living Springs, and our podcast is a journey through the diverse landscapes of faith. Taking your questions each week we explore, question, and celebrate the beautiful complexities of our beliefs, knowing that it's okay not to always land in the same place.

  1. Inverted Orthodoxy 396- The Bible Project, the Trinity and us, Magic, and Book Bans

    4D AGO

    Inverted Orthodoxy 396- The Bible Project, the Trinity and us, Magic, and Book Bans

    Welcome to the Inverted Orthodoxy Podcast! We're Blake, Kyle, and Doug the pastors from Living Springs, here to take you on a weekly adventure through the twists and turns of faith. Got questions? We've got answers, and sometimes more questions! Join us as we explore, celebrate, and embrace the beautiful complexities of belief. This week tackled the following questions: (2:03 into episode) 1. I have been looking at this, I have never been taught this having grown up in the church. I am completely blown away and have now such a greater understanding of the meaning of Pentecost. Do you agree with the attached teaching from the Bible Project? I so hope you can record this before Pentecost Sunday!! https://bibleproject.com/articles/what-is-pentecost-and-why-is-it-important/ (7:00 into episode) 2.and we will come to them and make our home with them. John 14:23b Does this mean that not only the Holy Spirit, but the whole of Trinity has taken up residence in us as followers? (19:37 into episode) 3.Exodus 7 and 8 have magicians turning water to blood and making frogs appear. What are your thoughts on magic? (33:40 into episode) 4. What do you think about banning books in schools? And do you think parts of the bible, with violence or sexual assault should be censored for younger children? Do you think in kids church we automatically censor parts of the bible in what we teach and the curriculum for children? Resources in this episode: re-enchanting the text chapter 6 Season 4 episode 2 of the BEMA podcast

    49 min
  2. Inverted Orthodoxy 395- AER on Catholicism, and Doug's Pilgrimage

    JUL 16

    Inverted Orthodoxy 395- AER on Catholicism, and Doug's Pilgrimage

    Welcome to the Inverted Orthodoxy Podcast! We're Blake, Kyle, and Doug the pastors from Living Springs, here to take you on a weekly adventure through the twists and turns of faith. Got questions? We've got answers, and sometimes more questions! Join us as we explore, celebrate, and embrace the beautiful complexities of belief. This week we answered the following questions and some AER! (1:28 into episode) 1. not a question* just wanted to thank you for the recent information shared on Catholicism. I enjoy this podcast and have been an avid listener since the beginning (side note I have never been to living springs!). Thanks for always tackling hard questions, defending your positions and speaking truth. I look forward to learning and being challenged every week by your well informed thoughts and positions. (2:23 into episode) 2.AER Enlight of last week’s AER. I just wanted to say that I believe that all 3 of you pastors have done an amazing job at answering all the questions that come your way. I love watching your podcast and just wanted to say thank you for your continual challenge to me to be better!  (2:41 into episode) 3.AER. After a hotly discussing on Catholic verse Protestant faith. I believe it would be wise to remind people of the differences between dogmatic and doctrinal beliefs within the Christian faith My hope is that this will help to restore unity and a better understanding of this topic. (8:49 into episode) 4.Sorry, but more AER There are very good reasons why not pray to the dead saints. Al Kyle said, we have a direct line to God—to the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit and why shouldn’t we use it? There is a more compelling reason in that is seems to take away the responsibility and hand it to the saint. When we pray to God, God responds to us. When we pray through another medium, the conversation with God is disjointed. It reminds me of the Israelites, when they didn’t want to meet with God directly, but only through Moses. They (like many Catholics, frankly) did not take responsibility for following God, but left holiness up to their “priest”, Rather than having a direct relationship with Christ, they look at their faith as simply being good people and doing good things. There is no real relationship with God, and when we mention this concept, they think we’re nuts.By the way, (I just sent in AER regarding Catholicism) do not agree with the last contributor about this podcast (and I am an LSCF member) although I also do not agree with praying to dead saints as a spiritually healthy practice. To do this podcast takes a lot of courage that many (most) pastors would never attempt, opening you up to a scrutiny and dissection they could not survive. I have to admit that I am surprised there is no pushback against the one viewpoint—I liked the podcast better when there was less group-think and more pushback. It seemed bring more of others’ arguments up for discussion. Thank you for sticking with it (ie, the podcast, not your viewpoint 😉). (29:27 into episode) 5. Doug, how was your pilgrimage? What had you hoped to get out of it and do you feel you got that? What would you say has most stuck with you or what are you still ruminating on now that you've been back for a little bit? Do you have a question you've been wanting answered? Head on over to our website www.invertedorthodoxy.com to submit a question. You can find us on Wednesdays on Youtube, or wherever you subscribe to podcasts. To learn more about our church, you can visit www.livingspringsairdrie.com

    42 min
  3. Inverted Orthodoxy- 394 AER/ The Hot Seat episode

    JUL 9

    Inverted Orthodoxy- 394 AER/ The Hot Seat episode

    Welcome to the Inverted Orthodoxy Podcast! We're Blake, and Kyle, the pastors from Living Springs, here to take you on a weekly adventure through the twists and turns of faith. Got questions? We've got answers, and sometimes more questions! Join us as we explore, celebrate, and embrace the beautiful complexities of belief. Let's dive in! This weeks episode brings a lot of AER on Catholicism, answering the following questions: 1. This is only an fyi, the difference of the trinity was only a small part of the schism In the Orthodox Church. This is a really good article delineating some of the things I was told when visiting an Orthodox Church during “open doors”:    https://cruxnow.com/global-church/2016/07/exactly-divides-catholics-orthodox 3. A bit more pushback on the aer on Catholicism: I’m pretty sure Kyle, you said that those who are dead have the ear of GOD, SO YOU THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD PRACTICE TO PRAY TO THE SAINTS WHO ARE DEAD—#391?— (AND THIS, BY THE WAY IS A DIFFERENT ISSUE FROM REVERING/communing with THE SAINTS). Paul told Timothy that "there is only one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" (1 Timothy 2:5). I think Catholic practice idolizes the saints from Jesus’ time. 4. AER - On last weeks episode 393 you answer a question about praying to the saints. Kyle mentioned the reference in Revelation about the prayers of the saints being poured out. Do you think that is just the prayers of the Saints (with an uppercase S), those who are recognized and named as saints? I always thought it was the prayers of all believers as saints… as Paul says we are no longer sinners, but adopted into his family, as in we are also saints (lowercase S) what do you think? And why? 5. Aer It was sad to see the past few episodes on Catholicism—especially the last one. The concerns that came in were real and genuine regarding the position Living Springs takes, as the podcast represents the church. Yet the response fell lame.  If the incident with Saul summoning Samuel from the grave isn’t enough, then surely the parable of the rich man and Lazarus—the beggar Jesus spoke about—should have settled it. We are not called to worship saints or Mary or to call on favours from them with God. In Revelation, as quoted on the podcast, the blood of the martyrs crying out to God for the persecuted is not the same as the dead hearing our prayers and presenting them to God. Yet the position taken by the podcasters came across as wishy-washy, defending flawed reasoning to uphold an erroneous stance—as though they were trying not to ruffle the feathers of their neo-orthodox leanings, formed more by books and other podcasts than by the Word of God. Throughout the podcast, it is very rare to hear the name of Jesus mentioned. Think about that—a church is watching. Is there any accountability or responsibility to present God’s Word correctly? Or is the aim simply to sound “different,” even if it confuses people? Yes, Catholics need a Saviour to redeem them from their works-based theology—just as Protestants need rescuing from their smugness. But one must not be returned to works simply to vilify the other. There is no comparison between a corrupt established church that grew monstrous in power—quelling the hunger of the people for God’s Word by keeping it in Latin, introducing penances, and adding layers of theology and trimmings that deflected from a personal relationship with God—and the truths of Scripture. The creeds and the canon of God’s Word came before this corruption, long before what later became the Roman Catholic–Orthodox split over doctrinal differences. A far cry from what the word catholic (meaning universal) originally meant in the creeds. Jesus said, “You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions” (Mark 7:8). It seems the practices and traditions of the past are becoming gods of your present—replacing Christ Himself. Sad. Use your platform well for Him and not flex intellectual muscle! Do you have a question you've been wanting answered? Head on over to our website www.invertedorthodoxy.com to submit a question. You can find us on Wednesdays on Youtube, or wherever you subscribe to podcasts. To learn more about our church, you can visit www.livingspringsairdrie.com

    1h 5m
  4. Inverted Orthodoxy 393- AER on Catholicism, Who created God, Angels skip the dishes, Moses Brother

    JUL 2

    Inverted Orthodoxy 393- AER on Catholicism, Who created God, Angels skip the dishes, Moses Brother

    Welcome to the Inverted Orthodoxy Podcast! We're Blake, and Kyle the pastors from Living Springs, here to take you on a weekly adventure through the twists and turns of faith. Got questions? We've got answers, and sometimes more questions! This week they answered the following questions: (2:00 into episode) 1. AER: I have a few issues with your response to the question about Catholicism. Firstly, I don’t know if nowadays it’s protestants who have an issue with Catholicism so much as Catholics not accepting that other Christians are bound for heaven.  Secondly, you talked about Saints who have gone before us being able to pray to God for us. When Saul summoned Samuel, who had died, to help him out, Samuel rebuked him and told him that he was in his rest and that Saul shouldn’t bother him. Thirdly, I believe that the thing about the Catholic church not splitting or having dissenters for so long has more to do with the political and personal implications (excommunication was was pretty brutal) than everyone being one big family family. I think the person who asked the question (and I could be wrong), was only looking to see what the differences were between Protestantism and Catholicism, not a defence of Catholicism. Or, dare I say, the vilification of Protestantism. (21:03 Into episode) 2. I'm pretty sure Kyle is wrong when he says that the Catholic Church has not had any splits. I believe the Russian Orthodox Church left the Roman Catholic.s because they did not agree with the scriptures and sermons being in Latin. I'm not sure, but this might be the same case with the Greek Orthodox Church, that used to be under the same banner as the Roman Catholic Church. (24:23 into episode) 3.My 7yr old son is wondering "if God created the world, then who/what created God?" (29:09 into episode) 4. Not a serious question—just having a bit of fun: In Matthew 4:11, it says: “The test was over. The Devil left. And in his place, angels! Angels came and took care of Jesus’ needs.” Other passages mention Jesus going off alone to pray. So here’s my playful theory: alongside the serious stuff like aligning His heart with God and receiving spiritual nourishment, do you think maybe He also got a bit of actual heavenly food? Kinda like sneaking snacks in between meals during his time on earth.  I already know Doug’s probably rolling his eyes at this kind of thinking 😄, but I’m curious what Blake and Kyle would say! (39:30 into episode) 5. How did Moses know that Aaron was his brother? Do you have a question you've been wanting answered? Head on over to our website www.invertedorthodoxy.com to submit a question. You can find us on Wednesdays on Youtube, or wherever you subscribe to podcasts. To learn more about our church, you can visit www.livingspringsairdrie.com

    44 min
  5. Inverted Orthodoxy 392- Christian Denomination, Worship songs, Raising faithful teens, and greed

    JUN 27

    Inverted Orthodoxy 392- Christian Denomination, Worship songs, Raising faithful teens, and greed

    Welcome to the Inverted Orthodoxy Podcast! We're Blake, Kyle, and Doug the pastors from Living Springs, here to take you on a weekly adventure through the twists and turns of faith. Got questions? We've got answers, and sometimes more questions! This week the pastors answered the following questions: 1. Last week you spoke about the 44003 denominations of Christianity, how many are from the line of Catholics? 2.What are your guys’s favourite worship song that we used to do or still do today? And why is it your favourite? 3.In addition to trying to live my life faithfully and praying and reading the Bible with my son, how can I better encourage his faith? He is still not even a teenager yet and claims he doesn't believe in God. I encourage his questions and don't force my faith on him but it still hurts my heart to hear him have such blatant disregard for God and faith in general. Any additional suggestions on how to better reveal Christ to him? I pray that his heart will be soft and open to God but I still wish there were more tangible things I could do. 4. In relation to Blake's sermon on greed in February and his references to tithing, it made me wonder - if someone is tithing the traditional 10% whether it should be on gross or net income? I would imagine most people would do it on net income, but wouldn't that mean that our "first fruits" are going to the government and not God? Or, does that not matter since that is not money we have any control over and "first fruits" would be more in relation to what we do with the funds we actually receive or control? Not looking to be dogmatic on it, just curious about what you guys would have to say about it. Do you have a question you've been wanting answered? Head on over to our website www.invertedorthodoxy.com to submit a question. You can find us on Wednesdays on Youtube, or wherever you subscribe to podcasts. To learn more about our church, you can visit www.livingspringsairdrie.com

    49 min
  6. Inverted Orthodoxy 391- AER, Disciples and grief, Loving well, and Catholic vs Christian

    JUN 18

    Inverted Orthodoxy 391- AER, Disciples and grief, Loving well, and Catholic vs Christian

    Welcome to the Inverted Orthodoxy Podcast! We're Blake, Kyle, and Doug the pastors from Living Springs, here to take you on a weekly adventure through the twists and turns of faith. Got questions? We've got answers, and sometimes more questions! This week brings us the following questions and some AER: (2:58 into episode) AER for this weeks episode 389- are all of the nephilim descendants dead now or could some of us be part nephilim? 😬 (9:27 into episode) On a recent message pastor Doug shared about the disciples on the road to emmaus. He said that they were in grief and didn’t expect Jesus to die. They had hoped Jesus would save Israel. But if the disciples had seen Jesus raise Lazarus, why didn’t they expect him to rise from the dead? (13:49 into episode) I’ve been around people who seem to know how to love well. They lift others up and offer genuine care and attention to those around them. Yet I know they do not live a life seeking Christ and submitting to Him. It seems like they have this natural ability to love and be loving. On the other hand I see Christians who continuously fail at loving well. Including myself. I am having a hard time reconciling these experiences. Do we really need Christ to love well? Is it possible that there are some non-Christians who actually do a better job loving people than some Christian’s do? (34:24 into episode) Is there a lot of examples about the differences of catholic and just Christian?  Do you have a question you've been wanting answered? Head on over to our website www.invertedorthodoxy.com to submit a question. You can find us on Wednesdays on Youtube, or wherever you subscribe to podcasts. To learn more about our church, you can visit www.livingspringsairdrie.com

    55 min
  7. Inverted Orthodoxy 390- Free Guy and Heaven, Wisdom, XY chromosomes and Jesus, and Scripture

    JUN 11

    Inverted Orthodoxy 390- Free Guy and Heaven, Wisdom, XY chromosomes and Jesus, and Scripture

    Welcome to the Inverted Orthodoxy Podcast! We're Blake, Kyle, and Doug the pastors from Living Springs, here to take you on a weekly adventure through the twists and turns of faith. Got questions? We've got answers, and sometimes more questions! Join us as we explore, celebrate, and embrace the beautiful complexities of belief. This weeks questions are: (1:39 into episode) Aer - As I was listening to the last question from last week’s episode about Jesus in heaven, it made me wonder if it’s a bit like the characters in the movie free guy, have you seen that? They don’t know they are in a computer game until guy puts on the glasses and starts to see things differently, is this like when we first begin to follow Jesus, we don’t see clearly? But when Jesus returns it’s like at the end where he runs past the edge and finds the island on the other side, like the veil being lifted and we will see heaven clearly? (10:13 into episode) In Proverbs 1-4, 8-9 wisdom is personified the entire time. From Proverbs 8:22-29 of Wisdom's Call in particular it is explained that God created wisdom before anything else, and then 8:30 states "Then I was the craftsman at his side" from the personified view of wisdom (at least in the NIV). Could wisdom be reference to the Holy Spirit, or is it the personification just the way of delivering the significance of the message in that style of writing? If wisdom is a reference to the Holy Spirit, what does that make Folly? In the NIV this personification is feminine, is this the same in other versions and translations? (21:20 into episode) If Jesus was born from a virgin mother that means there was no one to give him a Y chromosome meaning that he only ha X chromosomes. Does that make him female at birth or was he only human because he had dna but all of his dna was godly making Mary a surrogate mother? (26:34 into episode) When listening to some of the questions you guys answer on scripture, you state that we don’t understand the context in which it was written. Such as a question a number of weeks ago, you stated that the letter of Corinthians was written to a church in Corinth. Would you then say we should read about the book and the context of the letter or book before we even read the Bible? Resources: Bad News about Heaven- YouTube Bible Project- Any book of the Bible on YouTube BEMA Podcast Bible Gateway Naked Bible Long Form Teaching on Hell Do you have a question you've been wanting answered? Head on over to our website www.invertedorthodoxy.com to submit a question. You can find us on Wednesdays on Youtube, or wherever you subscribe to podcasts. To learn more about our church, you can visit www.livingspringsairdrie.com

    45 min
  8. Inverted Orthodoxy 389- AER, the Nephilim, God and inter-sex people, and where is David?!

    JUN 4

    Inverted Orthodoxy 389- AER, the Nephilim, God and inter-sex people, and where is David?!

    Welcome to the Inverted Orthodoxy Podcast! We're Blake, Kyle, and Doug the pastors from Living Springs, taking you on a weekly adventure through the twists and turns of faith. Got questions? We've got answers, and sometimes more questions! Join us as we explore, celebrate, and embrace the beautiful complexities of belief. In this weeks episode aimed to answer the following questions: (1:08 into episode) 1. AER: im not sure if my previous one got through but i listened to a pod cast on theology in the Raw talking about the toxic war on masculinity, and the lady in their talked about how gender roles were not subject to what we think now. Families used to work in the home together doing the family business. It was after the Industrial Revolution that men started to really work outside of the home without the rest of their families. (11:03 into episode) 2. I was reading though Genesis i ran into the word "Nephilim" chapter 6 v4. I was hoping you guys could provide some background on who they are. Because if the verses before and after the bible talks about the sons and daughters of God I can only assume they the Nephilim's are different. My assumption with quick research is that they are giants possible like Goliath. (25:52 into episode) 3. Did god make a mistake when he made people inter-sex? because if god created man and woman, what is to be said about people who are born this way? (46:39 into episode) 4. In 1 Sam 15 we are introduced to David. In 1 Sam 16 David is introduced to Saul, and it is clear to Saul who David is and who his father is. In 1 Sam 17:12 the author of 1 Samuel introduces David to us again, as though he was never introduced in Ch. 15. In 1 Sam 17:55-58 it seems as though Saul has no idea of who David is. What is going on here? It feels like 1 Sam chapter 17 was an insert from another author added after the original book was written. Do you have a question you've been wanting answered? Head on over to our website www.invertedorthodoxy.com to submit a question. You can find us on Wednesdays on Youtube, or wherever you subscribe to podcasts. To learn more about our church, you can visit www.livingspringsairdrie.com

    57 min
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We are three pastors of Living Springs, and our podcast is a journey through the diverse landscapes of faith. Taking your questions each week we explore, question, and celebrate the beautiful complexities of our beliefs, knowing that it's okay not to always land in the same place.

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