Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Francis Nash
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 09:52, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
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non-notability GetSomeUtah (talk) 08:39, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep - I added some refs - icluding a ny-times piece from 1974. I'm sure there are more (but need to hit print archives for this period). He is a significant railroad figure - that oversaw the demise of a rather significant line, and was prolific both before and after (in terms of historical preservation).Icewhiz (talk) 09:57, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Weak keepKeep. His presidency of two Class I railroads probably makes him notable, though we'll want to verify those details. Mackensen (talk) 11:14, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
- Lehigh Valley Railroad (and he's in the wiki there) is sourced from NY-Times (of him stepping down in 1974) in article - [1]. Memorabilia with his sig/name is sold (as railway memorabilia) - from a quick google search, for instance - [2]. Probably possible to source the earlier stuff (not from obit / 90s coverage) - but need to go through print archives.Icewhiz (talk) 11:25, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
- The obituary gives me pause. It was probably written by the family and not the Post Standard's writers. That goes to notability; it also means we should be wary of using it as a source for anything other than his birth and death dates. Mackensen (talk) 11:33, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
- Most of the article is currently sourced from this, I believe - [3] which is independent. The NY-Times source I added from 1974 is more significant - but specific to Lehigh Valley Railroad.Icewhiz (talk) 11:45, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
- Here's another - from the 50s - ny times - [4] and post-standard from the 60s - [5] I don't have archive access however. Here is a bunch of other refs - [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] Icewhiz (talk) 11:59, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
- The obituary gives me pause. It was probably written by the family and not the Post Standard's writers. That goes to notability; it also means we should be wary of using it as a source for anything other than his birth and death dates. Mackensen (talk) 11:33, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
- I've rewritten the article as prose and incorporated Icewhiz's sources, plus a few of my own. Nash was president and later bankruptcy trustee of a major Northeastern railroad during a period of considerable upheaval and received plenty of coverage. Some of the coverage is of him, some of his position. Still, I think it's probably enough. I certainly don't fault the original nomination. Mackensen (talk) 00:07, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- Lehigh Valley Railroad (and he's in the wiki there) is sourced from NY-Times (of him stepping down in 1974) in article - [1]. Memorabilia with his sig/name is sold (as railway memorabilia) - from a quick google search, for instance - [2]. Probably possible to source the earlier stuff (not from obit / 90s coverage) - but need to go through print archives.Icewhiz (talk) 11:25, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - at least per the rewrite the individual is the subject of multiple in depth reliable sources. Smmurphy(Talk) 19:07, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - References brought this up to standards and meets WP:GNG. -- Dane talk 02:43, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
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