User talk:Jimmymci234

Fitzpatrick wins 2020 DP World Tour Championship

No need to cry cause you couldn't edit the win first. Try next time. As I already mentioned at the beginning, Tournament was done kid. Did I say 'CHEERS'?!! ;) lol

Fair play big guy, you obviously 'knew' what you were doing, even though you weren't able to predict the winning score. I might not always win, I can accept that. But you sir, you will always be a twat. Enjoy the rest of your day. :) Jimmymci234 (talk) 12:26, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

"CHEERS" LMFAO.. Eat it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klaysaurus (talk • contribs) 12:30, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

WP:CRYSTAL

Please wait for tournaments to finish before updating articles, regardless of how inevitable the result may seem. Until all rounds are complete, and scorecards have been checked, signed and verified, (and results published) nothing is certain. Wikipedia is neither a fortune teller (WP:CRYSTAL) nor a breaking news service (WP:NOTNEWS/WP:BREAKING). Regards, _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 14:24, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

No problem my man. Jimmymci234 (talk) 14:25, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 14:30, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

I thought we we waiting for tournaments to finish (diff)? _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 12:14, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Well yes, but how come all morning I was tring to combat this guy Klaysaurus as he kept putting the win in even after 12 holes!! Where were you at then??? How come you're telling me off rather than him??! Jimmymci234 (talk) 12:18, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

"You surely cant guarantee it now"... LMAO you sure kiddo? OH also I see you are the snitch type. lol pathetic.

Western Australian Open

Hi Jimmy,

I recently created pages of Ross Metherell, David Galloway (golfer), and Mike Ferguson (golfer). All of these golfers won the Western Australian Open in the 1970s. You enfolded some of these wins under the PGA Tour of Australasia banner and some not. I wondered why. Below is the information:

Metherell won the 1974 Western Australian Open. You did not categorize this as a PGA Tour of Australasia win. Ferguson won the 1977 event. You did not categorize this as a PGA Tour of Australasia win. Galloway won the 1978 event. (Incidentally Metherell and Ferguson finished in second in this event.) You did categorize this as a PGA Tour of Australasia win.

Basically what evidence do you have that helped you determine when it was an Order of Merit event and when it was not?

Also, I would like to include wjemather in this conversation. He has been doing work on old Australian Tour calendars.

Any information would be much appreciated.

Oogglywoogly (talk) 20:13, 10 December 2020 (UTC)Oogglywoogly

Hello there Mr ooggly. I basically went off the season calendars produced by Wjemather on his Australasian tour subpage. Obviously there is no concrete evidence to suggest that those events were/weren’t part of the tour in those years. I suppose most of it is original research and making assumptions but the line has to be drawn somewhere.

I actually have a question for you while I’m here. In all of these pages that you’ve created for these lesser known Australian pros, why is the amount of detail in them basically similar to the amount of detail in someone like Tiger Woods’ page. Surely this amount of unnecessary detail doesn’t reflect their status or significance in any relation to the history of golf. But don’t take any offence to that as I’m sure you’ve put a lot of time and effort into creating them. Just my view of it at the end of the day. Thanks. Jimmymci234 (talk) 21:20, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the response. I appreciate your work with the tables as they are well done. As I've said before, however, I think you're being a bit presumptuous with the Australian events. The reason wjemather hasn't produced many seasonal calendars for the PGA Tour of Australasia is due to the lack of evidence we have to determine what was an Order of Merit event. And if you are going to integrate these events within a table I would suggest using 1973, the year the tour began, as the demarcation line. The 1977/1978 distinction you have for the Western Australian Open seems random. I also noticed on the page of Mike Ferguson (golfer) you labeled his 1981 win at the New South Wales PGA Championship as official while his victory two months later at the Queensland PGA Championship as unofficial. Likewise, it seems random.

Also I would like to respond to your question; I am not offended by it. I don't have any great reason why I create such detailed pages other it just seems natural to me. I am not trying to create especially detailed or lengthy pages. My process is simply that I look up the guy's name on Trove or another search engine, find stuff, and add what I think to be notable. I tend to only include wins, other tops tens (usually very high top tens), and course records. While the pages may seem very detailed I only include a very small minority from their golfing career. Most of these guys play several hundred professional events over the course of their careers and I usually only include a couple dozen highlights. Again wins, high top tens, and course records seem fundamentally notable to me, especially when national news services cover this information in their story about the round. Also, not to sound like an elitist, but I feel comparing my work to other golfers' pages on WikiProject Golf is a bit unfair. Most of the pages seem hastily created, lack the necessary citations, and are just poorly done overall.

So that's it... please tell me what you think.

Sincerely, Oogglywoogly (talk) 03:23, 12 December 2020 (UTC)Oogglywoogly