User talk:PetraSchelm

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Afd Participiation

If you're going to participate in Articles for Deletion discussions, please make sure to include a reason with your vote. Just giving a vote doesn't have any weight, since we use consensus instead of vote-counting (read WP:CONSENSUS). Just thought I'd let you know. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 21:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Please review WP:NPOV

Please review WP:NPOV, our policy on neutral point of view. Neutral point of view applies as equally to pedophilia related articles as it does any other article. Just because pedophilia is vile and disgusting, does not mean that you get to skew articles against it, or delete references to it via AFD. Equating pedophilia to child abuse is not only blatantly POV but is factually incorrect, and is something you need to be very careful to avoid doing. ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 20:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I think you should actually read the lists which were named "Pedophila and Child Sexual Abuse in film/theatre/song/books, and have all been renamed by a small pedophile faction "sexual attraction to children in film/theatre/song/books" before you jump to conclusions. Meaning, the lists all clearly describe child sexual abuse. Your argument is a specious one, based I suspect on not reading the lists. What is at issue is not pedophilia=child abuse, it's whether a list of instances of child sexual abuse can be called a list of instances of sexual attraction to children. Certainly a a song about a child who is raped is not about "sexual attraction to children" from the perspective of a child who has been raped, or from the perspective of mainstream society. It is only about "sexual attraction" from the fringe point of view of the one who is sexually attracted, namely a pedophile. -PetraSchelm (talk) 21:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I've read the lists. The lists are fine, as evidenced by the overwhelming support for keeping them. You, however, after only a couple of days of editing, have seemed to find our deletion debates and have nominated several pedophilia related articles for deletion. I'm just warning you now to very carefully review WP:NPOV, as well as WP:CIVIL in your assertions that pedophiles are a fringe point of view. For someone so new to wikipedia, you seem to know about some of our more esoteric policies. Frankly, I'm suspicious that you are a sockpuppet of a banned editor, but regardless of that, you need to maintain a neutral point of view. That's something that's non negotiable in Wikipedia. ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 21:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)