Machiavelli84
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I'm old enough to remember seeing "Thumbelina" in theaters. At the time, I was a ten-year old boy being dragged by his mom and two sisters to see what I perceived as a "girly movie". (And I know some reading this will immediately protest whether or not this actually counts as a "girly movie", but keep in mind when you're a ten-year old boy, anything with a female lead seeking after the prince of her dreams tends to be automatically labeled "girly movie".) At the time, I hated it. Cut to decades later, and now I'm a father with two young daughters of my own. We were trying to think of a family movie to watch, and I brought up this movie. All I remembered was I didn't like it as a kid. Curious, we all sat down to watch it. Within five minutes, my daughters were already in love with it. As the end credits finally began to roll, even I had to openly declare, "Alright, it was cuter than I remember it."
If you're already familiar with the Thumbelina story, this movie follows it fairly faithfully. The only difference might be that the character of the toad is now the primary villain, with the beetle becoming his secondary accomplice. The role of the prince is also expanded, so that Thumbelina meets him early on, and much of the movie involves the two of them trying to relink with each other. Voice acting overall is well done, with Jodi Benson doing her thing as Thumbelina (man she can hit those high notes), and even John Hurt doing a great job as the Mole. The songs are surprisingly good and catchy, to the point that I got the soundtrack for my daughters to listen to, and they still enjoy it to this day. (And my wife and I can't help but sing the final line of "Let Me Be Your Wings" to each other.) Of course, one of the biggest highlights for me is Don Bluth's animation, which is smooth and crisp. I must admit that sometimes I watch scenes from his movies just for the animation quality alone.
Is this the greatest movie ever? No, I'm not going to say that. Let me also add that, while I love and adore Don Bluth as an animator, and I think he's a master of his craft, I'm willing to lambaste his movies when I think they deserve it. (Don't get me started on "The Pebble and the Penguin"...) Sure, there are some legitimate complaints you can make about the film. For example, "follow your heart" is one of those corny moral lessons that sounds great in fairy tales, but tends to do really poorly in real life. Also, it's kinda funny that for a movie that seems to make that the front and center lesson, very little of the movie involves Thumbelina following her heart until the very end. But hey, it didn't affect my opinion of the movie too much too much. On that note, I think the film has gotten way too much criticism over the years, and I think it holds up a bit better than some people will give it credit for. For example, it got the Razzie for worst song ("Marry the Mole"), which just goes to show the Razzies are more focused on poking fun at mainstream films than making objectionably true statements. As someone who was sitting there in a theater when this film was fairly new, I can promise you nobody during the "Marry the Mole" scene was cringing or thinking "This is the worst song ever." In fact, people were enjoying themselves, and I even remember the room breaking out in laughter at the "They're DEAD! DEAD! VERY VERY DEAD!" line. (I'll add that, while I do love the soundtrack, "Marry the Mole" was probably the only song I remembered from the movie as a kid, which adds to the fact it wasn't all that bad.)
If you're looking for a simple family feature, I say give this a go. Or, if you're looking for one of Don Bluth's better hits than one of his misses, I suggest giving this a go as well.
If you're already familiar with the Thumbelina story, this movie follows it fairly faithfully. The only difference might be that the character of the toad is now the primary villain, with the beetle becoming his secondary accomplice. The role of the prince is also expanded, so that Thumbelina meets him early on, and much of the movie involves the two of them trying to relink with each other. Voice acting overall is well done, with Jodi Benson doing her thing as Thumbelina (man she can hit those high notes), and even John Hurt doing a great job as the Mole. The songs are surprisingly good and catchy, to the point that I got the soundtrack for my daughters to listen to, and they still enjoy it to this day. (And my wife and I can't help but sing the final line of "Let Me Be Your Wings" to each other.) Of course, one of the biggest highlights for me is Don Bluth's animation, which is smooth and crisp. I must admit that sometimes I watch scenes from his movies just for the animation quality alone.
Is this the greatest movie ever? No, I'm not going to say that. Let me also add that, while I love and adore Don Bluth as an animator, and I think he's a master of his craft, I'm willing to lambaste his movies when I think they deserve it. (Don't get me started on "The Pebble and the Penguin"...) Sure, there are some legitimate complaints you can make about the film. For example, "follow your heart" is one of those corny moral lessons that sounds great in fairy tales, but tends to do really poorly in real life. Also, it's kinda funny that for a movie that seems to make that the front and center lesson, very little of the movie involves Thumbelina following her heart until the very end. But hey, it didn't affect my opinion of the movie too much too much. On that note, I think the film has gotten way too much criticism over the years, and I think it holds up a bit better than some people will give it credit for. For example, it got the Razzie for worst song ("Marry the Mole"), which just goes to show the Razzies are more focused on poking fun at mainstream films than making objectionably true statements. As someone who was sitting there in a theater when this film was fairly new, I can promise you nobody during the "Marry the Mole" scene was cringing or thinking "This is the worst song ever." In fact, people were enjoying themselves, and I even remember the room breaking out in laughter at the "They're DEAD! DEAD! VERY VERY DEAD!" line. (I'll add that, while I do love the soundtrack, "Marry the Mole" was probably the only song I remembered from the movie as a kid, which adds to the fact it wasn't all that bad.)
If you're looking for a simple family feature, I say give this a go. Or, if you're looking for one of Don Bluth's better hits than one of his misses, I suggest giving this a go as well.
It's a question that has been asked by film critics and casual moviegoers alike for as long as cinema has been a medium: can you separate the art from the artist? There are some who take one extreme and say that no, you never, ever, ever can separate the art from the artist and vice versa. There are some, like myself, who take a middle position and argue that it really depends on the circumstances. There are others who take another extreme and say that you should always separate the art from the artist, regardless of the person or medium. For those people, this movie is an 800-pound gorilla plowing through the wall in a King Tiger tank and saying, "Hold my kegger."
"Paganini" is a pet project by Klaus Kinski done near the end of his film career. It's about Niccolò Paganini, the famous Italian violinist and composer... though music aficionados expecting another "Amadeus" should probably look elsewhere. A lot of other reviewers have referred to this film as if it's an art house project or some kind of avant-garde experiment, but even there one is stretching it. The first half of the movie largely deals with Paganini's romantic conquests (although I use the phrase "romantic" loosely... more on that later), while the second half deals with the relationship between Paganini and his son Achille. Those are really the prominent focuses on each section. As I said, if you're expecting an interesting character study like "Amadeus", you're instead going to be treated to something that feels like a low budget porn film. If you're expecting at least a pretty period film, you're also going to be disappointed: a lot of this film feels either too cheap or too ugly to really be visually appreciated. Heck, it doesn't even feel that well filmed, and Kinski's direction is bare bones when it comes to that. ("Barry Lyndon" this film is not.)
Some reviewers have said the movie is a lot like Kinski himself... and therein lies the problem I mentioned at the beginning. What do you do when a man known to be an egotistical, abusive sexual deviant makes a movie wherein he plays an egotistical, abusive sexual deviant?
Read some of the behind-the-scenes stuff about the actresses involved, and most of them are about how Kinski sexually assaulted and raped them on camera. (I know the real Paganini was a horndog, but apparently Kinski interpreted him as a serial rapist.) How exactly are we supposed to take scenes where Paganini is holding women down while they struggle or scream, and take it all in stride as "just a movie", when in fact that was probably how the woman actually felt? Add to this the very real fact that Kinski was a pedophile who sexually abused and groomed his firstborn daughter Pola Kinski, then later attempted to do the same to his other daughter Nastassja Kinski. Supposedly Natassja was almost going to be in this film along with her half-brother, but quit after one day of shooting. (I can only imagine why.) So when I accuse Kinski of being an abusive sexual deviant, I'm not kidding.
And as for ego? The first five minutes of the film are literally Kinski standing there, as Paganini, while a whole theater claps for him and women pine over him. And before anyone accuses me of reading too much into that scene, remember this is a guy who threw food at a supporter because he felt like the man didn't compliment him ENOUGH. Look up his spoken word performance as Jesus Christ, where he loses it and leaves the stage as soon as he's heckled, and even after the hecklers are removed and his most loyal fans are gathered around, he still loses it because he feels like they're not paying attention enough. Read his autobiography, where he claims to have had numerous sexual escapades himself. (Most of which have been denied by the women.) So no, when Kinski's standing there, being applauded by everyone, and all the women in the theater look like they want him then and there, it's hard for me to think that wasn't how he perceived himself. He probably really thought he was like Paganini: this great, underrated genius that women desired more than life itself.
I said at the beginning that as far as the idea of "separating the art from the artist" goes, you can only take that so far. Yes, there are times you can do that. I can watch Andrew Robinson in "Dirty Harry" and still love him as an actor because I know that, in real life, he's not the kind of man who would take a busload of elementary school kids hostage, threaten to shoot their mommies, and force them at gunpoint to sing "Row Row Row Your Boat". I can watch John Travolta in "Battlefield Earth" and still like him as a person because, from everything I've heard, he's a super nice guy in real life, and the Scientology stuff is, for him, more about personal faith than something he tries to push on everyone he knows. By contrast, when I see Kinski in his movies assaulting women, screaming his lungs out, declaring himself to be a god, and tossing monkeys around, it's hard for me to say, "He's just acting" and move on. No, that's not acting - that's really who he is.
If you're a die-hard Klaus Kinski fan who likes to tell everyone he's a fantastic actor while covering your eyes and ears to the fact he was abusive to his own daughters and regularly maimed and abused (verbally and physically) fellow actors and crewmembers on set, then by all means see this movie. If you're looking for a real biopic, then look elsewhere.
"Paganini" is a pet project by Klaus Kinski done near the end of his film career. It's about Niccolò Paganini, the famous Italian violinist and composer... though music aficionados expecting another "Amadeus" should probably look elsewhere. A lot of other reviewers have referred to this film as if it's an art house project or some kind of avant-garde experiment, but even there one is stretching it. The first half of the movie largely deals with Paganini's romantic conquests (although I use the phrase "romantic" loosely... more on that later), while the second half deals with the relationship between Paganini and his son Achille. Those are really the prominent focuses on each section. As I said, if you're expecting an interesting character study like "Amadeus", you're instead going to be treated to something that feels like a low budget porn film. If you're expecting at least a pretty period film, you're also going to be disappointed: a lot of this film feels either too cheap or too ugly to really be visually appreciated. Heck, it doesn't even feel that well filmed, and Kinski's direction is bare bones when it comes to that. ("Barry Lyndon" this film is not.)
Some reviewers have said the movie is a lot like Kinski himself... and therein lies the problem I mentioned at the beginning. What do you do when a man known to be an egotistical, abusive sexual deviant makes a movie wherein he plays an egotistical, abusive sexual deviant?
Read some of the behind-the-scenes stuff about the actresses involved, and most of them are about how Kinski sexually assaulted and raped them on camera. (I know the real Paganini was a horndog, but apparently Kinski interpreted him as a serial rapist.) How exactly are we supposed to take scenes where Paganini is holding women down while they struggle or scream, and take it all in stride as "just a movie", when in fact that was probably how the woman actually felt? Add to this the very real fact that Kinski was a pedophile who sexually abused and groomed his firstborn daughter Pola Kinski, then later attempted to do the same to his other daughter Nastassja Kinski. Supposedly Natassja was almost going to be in this film along with her half-brother, but quit after one day of shooting. (I can only imagine why.) So when I accuse Kinski of being an abusive sexual deviant, I'm not kidding.
And as for ego? The first five minutes of the film are literally Kinski standing there, as Paganini, while a whole theater claps for him and women pine over him. And before anyone accuses me of reading too much into that scene, remember this is a guy who threw food at a supporter because he felt like the man didn't compliment him ENOUGH. Look up his spoken word performance as Jesus Christ, where he loses it and leaves the stage as soon as he's heckled, and even after the hecklers are removed and his most loyal fans are gathered around, he still loses it because he feels like they're not paying attention enough. Read his autobiography, where he claims to have had numerous sexual escapades himself. (Most of which have been denied by the women.) So no, when Kinski's standing there, being applauded by everyone, and all the women in the theater look like they want him then and there, it's hard for me to think that wasn't how he perceived himself. He probably really thought he was like Paganini: this great, underrated genius that women desired more than life itself.
I said at the beginning that as far as the idea of "separating the art from the artist" goes, you can only take that so far. Yes, there are times you can do that. I can watch Andrew Robinson in "Dirty Harry" and still love him as an actor because I know that, in real life, he's not the kind of man who would take a busload of elementary school kids hostage, threaten to shoot their mommies, and force them at gunpoint to sing "Row Row Row Your Boat". I can watch John Travolta in "Battlefield Earth" and still like him as a person because, from everything I've heard, he's a super nice guy in real life, and the Scientology stuff is, for him, more about personal faith than something he tries to push on everyone he knows. By contrast, when I see Kinski in his movies assaulting women, screaming his lungs out, declaring himself to be a god, and tossing monkeys around, it's hard for me to say, "He's just acting" and move on. No, that's not acting - that's really who he is.
If you're a die-hard Klaus Kinski fan who likes to tell everyone he's a fantastic actor while covering your eyes and ears to the fact he was abusive to his own daughters and regularly maimed and abused (verbally and physically) fellow actors and crewmembers on set, then by all means see this movie. If you're looking for a real biopic, then look elsewhere.