(found this in my drafts: I wrote in in November when I saw the movie but apparently never remembered to post it)I saw Gladiator II a while ago, and I'm too lazy to write a proper review except to say that don't expect a serious drama or even a slick historical action movie like the first - it was more of a messy but entertaining period drama that reminded me a lot of Game of Thrones.
(I genuinely thought Gladiator II had a more interesting storyline, even though I like the original Gladiator more as a movie)
But what I wanted to post about is that it got me thinking about how I never got even the slightest slashy vibe from the original Gladiator, even though it was a dudely dudefest about sweaty dudes in miniskirts fighting each other. This one, however, made me think that if they'd done this story back in 2000, it would have been a juggernaut slash fandom.
I have not looked at the Gladiator tag on AO3 yet, but because I know how fandom works today I predict it will be 80% Marcus Acacius/Reader (because Pedro Pascal), 10% Stranger things AUs where Steve and Eddie are emperors (no incest),
1 and 10% other. But if the movie had been released 20 years ago, I think it would have been almost all slash even if, it being 20 years ago, they had left out all the hints of characters being bisexual (because yes, there was more than one canon bisexual in the movie).
The most likely juggernaut ship I think would have been Acacius/Hanno, even though they only really had one scene together, because their relationship was basically the core of the movie. I thought there were more slashy vibes between Hanno and Macrinus
2 to the degree that at one point I genuinely thought they might actually go there, and a master/servant dynamic that would have been popular in the 00's, but if we're talking about fandom 20 years ago, uh, fandom back then was quite racist, and I don't think a ship involving a black character, even one played by Denzel Washington, would have been a fandom favourite. Hanno/Ravi, another very slashy relationship with a POC actor playing one half, might have had a slightly better chance of being popular. And then Geta/Caracalla would, of course, be the dirtybadwrong incest ship, with potential to add Hanno, Macrinus, Acacius, or even Lucilla into the mix as a third depending on what flavor of ship dynamic you prefer. There was also one line that I'm certain could have sustained a Maximus/Acacius/Lucilla fandom for years.
(alas, the movie was very lacking of women interacting with each other, but I am sure old school femslashers could have managed to do something with Lucilla/her servant)
Another reason why I was reminded of fandoms of yore was that the showcase of positive masculity that was the Gladiator II press tour also reminded me
a lot of the LotR cast's appearances back in the day, because there was so much hugging and kissing and talking about how much they love each other. So there definitely would have been a big RPF fandom as well.
I rest my case.
And if you'll excuse me, I'm now off to AO3 to see if I can find any slashy whump that's to my taste.
edit while posting this 3 months after writing it: Turns out that my guess about the fic distribution in this fandom was completely wrong. First of all, to my great surprise, Acacius/Reader is only second most popular ship. I wonder if it's because the writers are hesitant to break up Acacius' marriage?
4 The most popular ship is actually Geta/Caracalla and I tip my hat at the incest shippers still flying the dirtybadwrong flag in the current fannish climate. To my disappointment, no-one had actually written that Stranger Things AU even though I thought that would have been the most obvious thing!
edit 10 minutes later: No, wait, I got that wrong. Pedro Pascal readerfic fandom still reigns supreme, I just missed that it's split between Acacius/You and Acacius/Reader.
1 Sidenote: I couldn't remember the names of the characters, so I just googled 'stranger things slash' as a shorthand because I know it's the most popular pairing AND ONLY ONE OF THE SEARCH RESULTS WAS FIC-RELATED. Because I forgot that people don't call it slash anymore :( [insert old man shouts at a cloud gif]
2 Macrinus was exactly the kind of slutty, messy bisexual that I bet would have become a big Gen Z queer icon if Denzel Washington was 40 years younger. Also, I'm about 99% certain that the controversial "gay kiss"3 that Denzel Washington said got cut was between Macrinus and Senator Thraex, because there's a scene where Macrinus greets him by kissing him multiple times, everywhere on his face except lips.
3 It really irks me when people refer to the other cut kiss between two men "gay kiss" because from the way that Paul Mescal described it, it was clearly not a gay kiss, but a slashy kiss, which is a completely different thing.
4 Which made me think that it'll be very interesting to see what happens with Fantastic 4 fandom. Pedro Pascal fic fandom is super focused on readerfic about his characters in a way that it's pretty much a fandom of its own outside the fandoms of the canons themselves. But FF is, I think, the first time that he will play a character whose main relationship is a romantic one (not counting Strange Way of Life because it was a special case) so will the readerfic writers break up the marriage, or will they pivot to just regular het with Sue Storm? (I predict it will actually be the latter, because I feel like today's readerfic writers are less likely to demonise a female character to get their ship together than old school slashers were...)