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Roga ([personal profile] roga) wrote2008-11-21 01:15 pm

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Every Line Speaks the Language of Love by [livejournal.com profile] mardia: HIMYM FOLKS, READ THIS FIC NOW. THIS IS BY FAR THE MOST DEPRESSING FIC I HAVE EVER READ AND YOU WILL HATE ME (AND THE AUTHOR) AFTER READING IT AND YET, REEEEEEEAAAAD. Because it's GOOD. How can HIMYM fic be depressing you, ask? How can that possibly happen? Does she break up Robin and Barney's future angst-filled relationship? Oh, no, it's worse. And it also kind of blew me away. So read it. (OKAY, READING ONE OF THE COMMENT REPLIES ON THE FIC JUST MADE ME CRY, WTF.)

House, on the other hand, made me yay this week. We had great House, Wilson, Kutner, Foreman, and... you know, other people. I was really happy they let Kutner have his moments, even though I can't call this a Kutner-centric episode, seeing as he was bumped out of the case after about ten minutes. Which sadly means that he probably won't get an story of his own for at least a few more episodes.

You've all read a few reaction posts already, I assume, and I'm coming late to the party, so I don't have much to add to the general squee. I LOVED Wilson here, which isn't something I say too often. And I liked Foreman and the former ducklings' interactions - I can't say I truly get their relationships, but I liked that they helped him when he asked for it, and that House knew about the case - not just that there was a case, but the particulars, that it was a little boy - all along.

Three other things I liked: 1. 13 (or someone) telling House that he doesn't care about the patient's life, just about solving the case. And for a moment I was afraid House was going to launch a speech or deflect or act in some way OOC, but all he did is stare blankly and say: "So?" and YES. THIS is House - first season House, the "misanthropic bastard" who, at his core, really does care about solving the mystery and anything else - patient-wise - is secondary. As the seasons progressed, things have turned more towards the psychological reasonings for why House or his fellows take on cases or treat one another and that's, you know, good and understandable, but this was one fundamental aspect of House which I feel we've been missing for a while.

2. The good ethical dilemma. Again, this flashed me back to the first two seasons, where the core of the medical mystery was, many times, not medical but ethical. Should the police be notified about the rape? Should they interfere in the girl's wishes to get the transplant from her parents? Never mind that in the end they avoided the question with it not being rape after all, but the question was there, and it was good.

3. We've gotten used to House always solving the mystery in time. And if we identify with the fellows, we always know that House is there, in the background, backing us up, solving the case. This episode actually made me feel the pressure, for once - because the detective wasn't House, and where Foreman (and Chase and Cameron) doubted himself, so did I, and I suddenly felt all the responsibility that weighs down on you when you're the diagnostician and if you don't figure this out, the little boy will die, and you have to either be brilliant or come crawling to House - in time - and there isn't that certainty that it'll be okay in the end. The fact that Foreman did solve it really shows how much he's grown but also how very, very scary it would be to leave House's patronship and become a diagnostician.

It also made me think about House as a teacher. And I know that the least of House's worries is being a good teacher, but somewhere inside him, as this episode proved, he does care a little about making his fellows better doctors. And I think that if we look at the three ducklings, we can categorize Foreman as a success, Cameron as a partial success, and Chase, frankly, as a failure. Chase was a good diagnostician. He was a fellow for four years, he learned a ton, and in the end, when he left, he basically - the way I understand it - threw it all away to become a surgeon. Because in the ER Cameron still exhibits some, at least, diagnostic skills, but in surgery, Chase just cuts them open and sews them back up, and that's it. Even when he's performing exploratory surgeries and difficult procedures, they're just tests - the diagnostic process happens either before or after. And that kind of sucks. His four years in Diagnostics got him a weirdly estranged relationship with Cameron and diagnosing techniques that will remain unused, for the guy who has mad surgical Superdoc skills anyway.

Also, this line in last night's The Office killed me: "I tried to talk to Toby and be his friend, but that is like trying to be friends with an evil... snail. I feel like I'm dying inside."

Hee! Steve Carell ROCKED this episode. As did Dwight, and Jim and Pam brought the warm and fuzzy feelings. And what made this an even better episode was the return of Toby! I love, so much, the thought of the writers of the show playing these sidelines characters, and seeing Ryan, Kelly and Toby, three writers, acting in the same scene was awesome. Also Ryan's break up with Kelly, LOL.

I was, originally, going to make this post all about Izhar Ashdot's awesome new CD! I'm not a huge fan of the guy, but his new(est) album is all songs from his Irish tour, which is him arranging his songs with an Irish music band, traditional Irish instruments, you know. And it puts a spin on some songs that I never realized I liked before, but now sound far more pleasant.

He also does a cover of Whiskey in the Jar (or here, by Metallica), which I am glad for, because it completed a connection in my brain: I'd always known that the music of Gidi Gov's Siman She'ata Tzair (It's a Sign That You're Still Young) was taken from somewhere else, but I never knew from where; officially, it says "traditional Irish tune". So apparently, it's Whiskey in the Jar. (These kinds of Israeli/foreign song connections have happened to me before; I always love it.)

Anyway, this ramble is not for naught;

Six songs from the CD, in this Mediafire folder.

Individually, songs are:

02 Habalada Al - The Ballad Of
03 Rikud Katan - A Little Dance (chorus: and all this happened in a white night / no good or bad, no feeling of time / two souls went out in a little dance)
04 Eric and the Angels - pretty Irish music instrumental
05 Whiskey in the Jar
09 Ma Tomri - What Would You Say (what would you say if I met you today / just like that, suddenly / and told you hello)
10 Kichlot Hakol Vehatmunah - ♥ ♥ ♥

Okay, that last song deserves a mini into of its own, because I really do love it. When I hear this version, which is of local singer-celebs performing it at a charity event, I can actually get chills, and it's all because of one line that keeps repeating itself and, if you listen to the lyrics, actually sounds like it's talking to you: "When was the last time you did something for someone?"

I also love the song title. The phrase "VeAcharey kichlot hakol" is taken from the Adom Olam prayer, and means "and after everything", or "and when all shall end". The word kol also means voice, though, or sound. Spelled as it is in the song, it means something like "and after all the sounds and images are over", or "and after the end of all the sounds and images", which is a really pretty play on the words.

And what the hell, here are the lyrics in full:

Kichlot Hakol Vehatmunah (lyrics by Yankale Rotbleit)

Your smile is pasted all over the city
like a great promise
and you have a fanbase, yes
singing with you in a choir
what can one say
all the tickets were sold out
what can be said
don't let it go to your head
tu-du-du-du-du

Because after the sound and image are over
someone might unintentionally ask you
when was the last time
you did something for someone,
you did something for someone
for someone.

It looks like a sure card
you are galloping, you're on the horse's back
everyone opens doors for you,
and talk politely
you sit and get photographed
just like a success symbol
you think the whole word is already in your pocket
tu-du-du-du-du...

Because after the sound and image are over...

You live like in a movie
you're a superstar in a dream production
watch out so they don't turn on the light
and you'll suddenly wake up
and then you'll see that from up to down
is the same distance
and then you'll learn
who will be the last to laugh

Because after the voice and the picture are over...

OKAY, SERIOUSLY, DONE NOW.
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[identity profile] swatkat24.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 11:31 am (UTC)(link)
I STILL haven't seen House, but I completely agree re. Chase and will have more thoughts on them once I watch.

And, argh, the HIMYM fic. *weeps*

[identity profile] roga.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 11:41 am (UTC)(link)
I know! It's like, HIMYM and sadness, they don't mesh, but just imagining what this would do to the others... is just a major fucking downer, is what it is. It's been a while since I've gotten so emotional about a fic. Now I just want to watch reruns until the images go away.
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[identity profile] swatkat24.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
HIMYM is my happy show! This cannot happen!

The thing is, the BEST thing about HIMYM for me is the dynamic between all of them, the way they love each other and do strange, strange things for/with each other, and THIS is just so horrible. And I can see this happening to Ted, which is what makes the story so horrible. And good.

[identity profile] roga.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the only cure for this is watching Barney and his March Madness 64 women diagram again. Or read his blog! I haven't checked it in two weeks at least.

[identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 12:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It's especially a shame about Chase, because I thought he was the brightest of the three, the most "House-like" in terms of insight and leaps of brilliant connection.

[identity profile] roga.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly, that's the picture they painted of him. And he'd stayed four years, instead of the regular fellowship three - and it's like House broke him or something. It'd be different if I could look at Chase now and think he's happier not being in Diagnostics, but he's not - he's the same Chase, seemingly having settled for something else. I don't think he's really found himself yet, but it feels like he's stopped looking.

I think I need to rewatch the end of S3 to remember how it all went down. (I loved the exchange this week - or was it last? - between Chase and Cameron: "This is exactly why we left." "It's why I left. You were fired.")

[identity profile] hi-falootin.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
aw, damn, I missed this episode! But after reading your review I'm totally going to download and watch it.

I like your observation about the three fellows. I also kind of wonder if House KNEW more or less that it would end up that way. Maybe not with Chase, because I think the writers threw us a doozy there, but with Cameron and Foreman. Foreman is certainly the fellow House seemed to care the most about (this is super evident in season one...I feel Foreman is sometimes the only other person House gives a crap about in that season).

I also like what you said about Chase in your comment to Dee above mine ^ on how he hasn't really found himself. Very true.

[identity profile] roga.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
This whole post is making me feel really sad for Chase, now. If only I knew he was happy these days - but he seems like he's just trying to get by, and protect himself from getting hurt by Cameron, with no challenge. But hey, it's Chase - maybe he's not looking for challenges.

Man, I really need to watch some S1-3 episodes to remember who he is.

Anyway, watch this episode, yes! It was cool :-)
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[personal profile] zulu 2008-11-21 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Poor Chase. He really does deserve better. But I think his non-confrontationalness works against him. He's an excellent diagnostician and part of that is thinking in sneaky ways...and I don't know what the usual fanon is for him, but I imagine that with his parents he needed to be sneaky and perfect in order to get their attention and approval. And House, while he can respect the sneakiness, really doesn't have time to do more than mock those who won't fight back. Look at Kutner--and Thirteen, for that matter! House fired both of them and they just kept showing up until he rehired them. I agree, it's like Chase was broken by being fired, when it should have been a challenge he fought against. Not necessarily like Kutner and Thirteen, but in his own mind, even.

Huh. This makes me really feel for him, poor guy.

[identity profile] roga.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I reeeeeeally need to watch episodes from seasons 1 through 3 again, because honestly, so much time has passed since I've seen Chase that I've forgotten who he is, or why he feels the way he does. Your analysis of him makes a lot of sense, but it's also really sad so I hope it's wrong.

I think Chase didn't fight back because it really was time and they both knew it - it's just that after that time, instead of going forward as e should have, Chase just kind of... stood still. Or maybe took a step back.
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[personal profile] zulu 2008-11-21 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think I ever understood what Chase really, truly wanted out of life. That might explain why I've never been intrigued by him as far as fic goes. Other characters, even if I didn't like them, I felt like I knew how their brains worked, what drove them. And maybe Chase himself doesn't know, either, which would explain why he feels directionless right now. Even wanting Cameron felt temporary to me: she pursued him, and it was only after she cut him off that he really went after her--and I feel like he did it because what they had was working for him and he missed it, but not because there was some deep underlying want going on. I could be totally wrong there, but I think that would explain why he waited a year and a half to tell her what wasn't working in their relationship for him, because he was willing to let it go if it meant he didn't have to pursue her any more, if he got something.

And the more I ramble on, the more that's what I see: Chase hangs on to what he's got, but he doesn't go for more. The Vogler arc: Chase wanted to keep his job. The dead patient: Chase didn't volunteer any defense except just enough to keep his job, again. Getting fired...well, if he couldn't have his job any more, then there wasn't anything to fight for, so he settled into surgery. And I still think he deserves better than Cameron, even though they're improving slowly (mainly because Cameron is growing). He settled there too.

And looking back, pre-series, when Chase was House's only fellow--that first scene with the three of them in the pilot. Foreman's chafing about doing nothing, Cameron is at least keeping up with House's busywork, and Chase is doing the crossword. And you could call that patience, because he knows the work will come when House brings it to them, or you could say...maybe he's just not putting in any effort. Cameron and Wilson trick House into seeing patients--did Chase ever do that? (And the reverse is also true: when his thing against fat people gets in the way of his job, Chase disappears for the rest of the episode, apparently without concern; apparently it's something simply not worth bothering with.) Is Chase content with "just enough"?

Even the seminary. We never found out why Chase left, but maybe it's that that kind of devotion, that complete subservience to an entire way of life, those very scary priestly vows of obedience, poverty, and chastity--maybe that was too much work and too much dedication and too much, I don't know, giving of himself to a thing. It required too much wanting, and Chase doesn't want hard enough.

I'd love to see a rewatch of the first few seasons where someone concentrated on finding out what Chase wants. I think if I understood his desires, I'd understand him a little better and probably be more interested in him.

Anyway. I don't know if this really counts as analysis of Chase, or simply me rambling about my own issues with the character, so, take it for what it's worth.

[identity profile] roga.livejournal.com 2008-11-22 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The sense that you make is perfect, and really very sad. It's really hard to figure out what Chase wants, and yeah, I don't think he wants very much himself - he's not ambitious, he just wants to be comfortable enough in whatever situation he's in. Maybe. His personality isn't as goal-oriented-ly fleshed out as the others, so he's just a really hard guy to get - he doesn't want to succeed, like Foreman, or help people, like Cameron. I would love to see you write more Chase, if you're ever inspired by rewatching; you have a really interesting take on him, what with not being infatuated by his lips and hair and accent like I am whenever I think about him or write him. I like to write Chase as a king of uninvolved mature observer who's really a dork inside, but I'm not sure how canon-based that is.
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[personal profile] zulu 2008-11-22 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] sabra_n said over in my journal that maybe what he wants most is stability and safety, and while I agree, I also gotta say, there isn't a lot of conflict that arises from that kind of desire, so again, without conflict, the plotbunnies don't show up for me. But it's probably entirely my own failing, my showgoggles just don't work in the proper Chase-appreciating ways.