For those of you who have been blogging on WordPress for less than two years or whose memory banks expire within 24 months, I am repeating my August 9, 2023 response to this question.
The honest answer to both questions is “I don’t remember.”
What I do remember is that when we lived in Southern California in the mid-80s, we would drive into Los Angeles and treat ourselves to dinner once or twice a year at the Ivy Restaurant.

I remeber that it was a fairly expensive restaurant and I think the food was good, but I can’t specifically remember how much the meals actually cost or how good the meals tasted.
I do remember that every time we had dinner at the Ivy, we always saw some celebrity dining there, too. TV personalities, movie stars, musicians. Every time we ate there.
Please don’t ask me to tick off the names of the celebrities we saw there. It was almost forty years ago since we last dined at the Ivy in Los Angeles. I do recall the one time we ate at the Ivy Restaurant in Santa Monica, one of the other guests dining there was singer/songwriter Jackson Browne.

