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This page is for the proposal of new properties.

Before proposing a property

  1. Search if the property already exists.
  2. Search if the property has already been proposed.
  3. Check if you can give a similar label and definition as an existing Wikipedia infobox parameter, or if it can be matched to an infobox, to or from which data can be transferred automatically.
  4. Select the right datatype for the property.
  5. Read Wikidata:Creating a property proposal for guidelines you should follow when proposing new property.
  6. Start writing the documentation based on the preload form below by editing the two templates at the top of the page to add proposal details.

Creating the property

  1. Once consensus is reached, change status=ready on the template, to attract the attention of a property creator.
  2. Creation can be done 1 week after the creation of the proposal, by a property creator or an administrator.
  3. See property creation policy.


Person

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‎Third-gender population

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Descriptionnumber of third-gender people inhabiting the place
Data typeQuantity
Example 1Pirganj Upazila (Q13419437) → 8
Example 2MISSING
Example 3MISSING
See alsosex or gender (P21), sexual orientation (P91), population (P1082)

Motivation

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Hello, I am adding some 2022 census data to Bangladeshi upazila. To count total population, government did something like this: male + female + hijra = total population for that upazila.

(See for example Pirganj Upazila (Q13419437))

To add Hijra or non-binary population, I need this property. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 19:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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romantic orientation

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Descriptionpattern of romantic attraction of this person or fictional character
Representsromantic orientation (Q4688879)
Data typeItem
Domainitem
Allowed valuesinstances of romantic orientation (Q4688879)
Example 1Yasmin Benoit (Q68549608)→aromanticism (Q52746927)
Example 2Seanan McGuire (Q3476794)→panromantic (Q96188028)
Example 3Joe Parrish (Q96333392)→quoiromantic (Q96195586)
Example 4Lilith Clawthorne (Q130762102)→aromanticism (Q52746927)
SourceAromantic people, List of people on the aromantic spectrum
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
See alsosex or gender (P21) and sexual orientation (P91)
Wikidata projectWikiProject LGBT

Motivation

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Before anyone suggests it, romantic orientation is a concept completely different from either sex or gender (P21) or sexual orientation (P91) so these properties cannot be used instead. --Trade (talk) 23:33, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikidata is not supposed to be anglocentric. Properties should not focus on the meaning of English words, but you should seek to define them well, so that they can be used by speakers of other languages as well.
Additionally, this seems to me like private information (property that may violate privacy (Q44601380)), so the idea of sourcing it from Wikipedia seems questionable. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 11:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how this could violate privacy more than sexual orientation (P91). -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 15:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't stop people opposing sexual orientation (P91) back then.--Trade (talk) 08:34, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wd-Ryan If someone proposes a property, take the time to actually read the proposal in detail before you support it. Nobody proposed to just use Wikipedia lists/categories as source for sexual orientation (P91). sexual orientation (P91) is appropriately labeled with property that may violate privacy (Q44601380) indicating that it "should generally not be supplied unless they can be considered widespread public knowledge or openly supplied by the individual themselves". ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 19:45, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The field simply states a source for people to find items to use the property on. Whether or not people chooses to use the articles as a source in of itself is something i (for obvious reasons) have no control over
Besides, why would i tell people to list the Wikipedia articles as source when none of the examples does so? Doesn't make sense Trade (talk) 11:48, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do think that the general people we use the word source is to suggest places where you can use as a source for the statements. If your position is that items could be found there but they are not sourced you could say so explicitely in the property template form.
I do believe, that it's worth making an effort to prevent privacy violations. If you take sexual orientation (P91) as an example, you could look at it and would see what we did to prevent it to be used in privacy violating ways. You skipped that step.
Additionally, the point about defining the property in a way that's not relies on the particular meaning of an English term is still open. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 09:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree this property should have pretty much the same standards as sexual orientation (P91). The definition of this property can rely on the class of romantic orientation (Q4688879), of which there are dozens of instances. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 16:03, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have no way to add constraints to a property that have yet to be created. Unless you know something i don't Trade (talk) 00:05, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User account

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Identifier

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vardnica.aizpute.lv ID

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Descriptionidentifier for a person in the website vardnica.aizpute.lv
Data typeExternal identifier
Example 1Pēteris Vasks (Q368449) -> 32-personas-v/681-vasks-peteris
Example 2Mārtiņš Freimanis (Q937500) -> 17-f-alfabets/205-freimanis-martins
Example 3Ingrīda Circene (Q2983484) -> 14-personas-c/112-circene-ingrida

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  Notified participants of WikiProject Latvia valuable website containing biographies of persons from Aizpute Municipality (Q2485015). --Ekrumina (talk) 13:04, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  •   Support --Epìdosis 14:30, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is a weird one. This is a digital version of a 2015 book "Ar Aizputi un novadu saistītie". Website was made with the same data, I presume. The data appears to be compiled and curated by a single person. Her credentials appear in order, so I have no reason to doubt the accuracy. The site does have unique info not found elsewhere as she interviewed people firsthand and cites sources otherwise. It does lean heavily on "personal angle" rather than any sort of structured data. My concern is that the author is 98 now. Last update seems to be 2019 and 2016 before that a bunch after initial release. "Autortiesības" ("copyright") is just a text on the website. There is no contact info. There is no info about the plan here for this website and maintaining it. What happens if, for example, I spot an error - how will this get updated? I don't like that they haven't even set up HTTPS, this screams made by the "nephew who is good with computers". That said, the aizpute.lv domain belong to the local Municipality, so they could presumably retain this indefinitely. But I very much doubt they will ever update this unless all the IP rights are settled and some sort of initiative for this happens (or some volunteer takes over). I don't know if any of this is relevant to having a property, but it is likely the data will just remain as it is now until the website goes 404. I guess I don't oppose this particular "database", but I do think it would have been better served as a source for other long-term maintained databases. —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK ∣ enWiki 09:52, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ekrumina, could you please clarify the comment? Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 08:46, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello! I have no idea, the page seems to be invalid from 2007. https://web.archive.org/web/20081201000000*/aizpute.lv 185.31.46.25 09:47, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ekrumina, could you please clarify the comment? Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 05:08, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

dtf.ru person ID

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Descriptionmany notable russian speaking game designers have accounts on that website
RepresentsDTF (Q4051032)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5)
Example 1Nikolay Dybowski (Q130453585) → 30271
Example 2Dmitry Gusarov (Q4152617) → 161216
Example 3Novik (Q130454004) → 320176

Motivation

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dtf.ru is a notable website about video games. Vitaly Zdanevich (talk) 23:30, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comprehensive Information System on Korean Historical Figures ID

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DescriptionID of a person in Comprehensive Information System on Korean Historical Figures
Data typeExternal identifier
Example 1Q110114053 -> PPL_8KOR_A1930_1_0030006
Example 2Yun Chi-wang (Q496310) -> PPL_7HIL_A1895_1_0032102
Example 3Seo Wal-bo (Q7451485) -> PPL_6JOc_A1886_1_0017954
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Formatter URLhttp://people.aks.ac.kr/front/dirSer/ppl/pplView.aks?pplId=$1&category=dirSer

Motivation

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An encyclopedia for historical Korean people.--GZWDer (talk) 12:26, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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  Notified participants of WikiProject East Asia. Samoasambia ✎ 17:07, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chtyvo author ID

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   Under discussion
Descriptionan online library of Ukrainian-language literature. The library also contains works in foreign languages on Ukrainian topics.
RepresentsChtyvo (Q12103346)
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed unitshuman (Q5)
Example 1Hryhorii Skovoroda (Q336803)→Skovoroda
Example 2Bohdan Lepky (Q2985059)→Lepkyi
Example 3Mykhailo Hrushevskyi (Q371322)→hrushevskyi

Motivation

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A well-known online library of Ukrainian-language literature.--Максим Огородник (talk) 16:50, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  Notified participants of WikiProject Ukraine. Samoasambia ✎ 12:26, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Identifiant d'un(e) auteurice dans Vidas (fr) – (Please translate this into English.)

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   Done: Vidas author ID (P13168) (Talk and documentation)
Descriptionidentifiant d'un(e) auteurice dans Vidas, dictionnaire biographique (en construction...) des auteurices occitan(e)s (fr) – (Please translate this into English.)
RepresentsOccitanica(108913948)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainêtre humain(5)
Example 1Savinian(30116930) → 2072
Example 2Lydie Wilson(3269238) → 18
Example 3Frédéric Mistral(42596) → 2146
Formatter URLhttps://vidas.occitanica.eu/items/show/$1

  Notified participants of WikiProject France et CaféBuzz. Maxime 17:19, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Maxime Ravel, Ayack, Baidax, Rémi sim, CaféBuzz:   Done: Vidas author ID (P13168). --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 10:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

identifiant sur Mémoire des avocats (fr) – (Please translate this into English.)

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Descriptionidentifiant sur Mémoire des avocats (fr) – (Please translate this into English.)
Representsmusée du Barreau de Paris(6402206)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainêtre humain(5)
Example 1Joseph Python(16026385) → 504
Example 2Catherine Ammar(131343970) → 463
Example 3Agathe Dyvrande-Thévenin(76388630) → 405
Sourcehttps://memoire.avocatparis.org
Formatter URLhttps://memoire.avocatparis.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=$1

  Notified participants of WikiProject France. Maxime 22:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WHL player id

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Descriptionidentifier for player at WHL site
Representsno label (Q131386005)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5)
Example 1Alena Polenská (Q4716122) → 24214
Example 2Viktoria Kulishova (Q48487503) → 24417
Example 3Noora Räty (Q455479) → 35865
Sourcehttps://whl.khl.ru/players/
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned usefor usage in stated in (P248) and for Template:Authority control (Q3907614)
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://whl.khl.ru/players/$1/
Robot and gadget jobsMaybe check captures in Internet Archive for just in case?

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Will be useful for stated in (P248), contains valuable statistical data. Full coverage for every Zhenskaya Hockey League (Q2952044) player since 2015. Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 16:27, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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Full name

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Profession

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Work

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