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Pissed on. Pissed off.

Warning. This post is gross. And humiliating. And there is a bunch of swearing. Just thought you should know before you start. 🙂 

We all know abuse is about power and control. Sometimes the quickest way to exert your control over someone is to degrade and humiliate them. 

I woke up at 4am on Saturday morning thinking the time X wanted to shower with me, and then pissed on me. I remembered thinking at the time “Can I really divorce someone for pissing on me in the shower? Is that really a reason?” Oh, if only I knew then what I knew now…YES!
And while that was really messed up, I realized that same thing happened multiple times, but for some reason I never saw the pattern. X was always very good at spacing out his bizarre behavior of urinating places he shouldn’t be, so it never looked like a pattern. 

While we were dating, he would come over to my parents house. Sometimes he’d sleep over. When we got ready to move out and into a different place, I was cleaning out my closet and found 4 2-liter soda bottles filled with urine. I guess during his time at my parents house, he couldn’t be bothered by going upstairs to the bathroom. That seemed odd. But, by then I was pregnant and had a lot bigger things on my mind than that. 

A few years into our marriage, we had moved. He wanted to shower together. While we’re in the shower, I was under the water, he was behind me. I looked down and saw that he was urinating. It was running down the drain In the shower. On my feet. “What are you doing?!” I hollered, trying to get away from it. “What?” he asked. “Why didn’t you get out and use the toilet?!” I said. He replied “For what?” I said, “If you needed to go to the bathroom you should have gotten out!” He just shrugged, got out of the shower and went to sulk. I finished my shower, washing my feet twice. 

A few years later we moved again. He wanted to shower together. This time it meant I was to shiver on the far end of the tub while he used up all the hot water. When I finally got under the water myself it happened again. This time I was facing him and he was urinating all over my shins and feet. My hair was full of shampoo, I couldn’t see, but I could feel it. “Seriously!? Are you pissing all over me?!” I hollered, trying to get the soap off my face so I could get out. “No.” he said. “Yes you did!” I argued, “I could feel it all over my legs!” He said “I don’t know what you’re talking about.” And he got out of the shower and went to sulk again. 

And about a year later we were at a hotel and it happened again. And again he denied that it happened. Seriously? Yeah. Seriously. There was no more showering together.

I feel badly for my husband now. I can’t bring myself to even consider showering with him. 

A few months later, he wanted head. As he ALWAYS wanted head. I often complied because it was easier then having sex. We were at the point in our relationship where he liked putting his hands on my neck while we had sex and choking me until I passed out. As I kept saying “NO! Stop! no!……” I thought about the kids and if he killed me I’d hope he at least dress me before someone found me. It wasn’t long before I stopped undressing for sex, just in case. I wondered if he’d call 911 or if he’d just go to sleep and wake up and pretend like he had no idea how it happened. Anyway, me doing what he wanted, this way he’d get what he wanted, (for someone else to get him off) and I could be left alone. However this time, instead of finishing with the normal result, he urinated in my mouth and on my face. I was humiliated. I didn’t say anything, I got up and went to the bathroom and brushed, flossed, mouth-washed 3 times. I felt sick. What was wrong with him? What was wrong with me? 

When I went back to the bedroom I said, “What was that about?” He played dumb, as usual. “What are you talking about?” I told him that I’d gotten a face and mouth full of piss and what the hell? Seriously? That is awful and terrible and humiliating and I was never ever going to do that again if that was what was going to happen.
He said “Really? I didn’t know. Why didn’t you say something? Are you sure?” I didn’t answer. I knew that there was no way he didn’t know the difference between and orgasm and pissing all over his wife. I just proceeded to tell him to get off the bed, I needed to change the sheets. They were soaked. He kept pretending nothing had happened.

This happened one other time. I made less of a stink the second time…there was no point. 

After that he he took to pissing in the shower in OUR bathroom. No one but him and I used that shower. I’d get up in the morning to shower and it was full of piss. He used it like a giant urinal. He’d never rinse it. He walked right by the toilet to use the shower to relieve himself. I’d ask him to stop. He’d deny doing it. He blamed the kids. He blamed the dog. He blamed the cat. He never cleaned it up. He never cleaned anything up. Over the course of the last 5 years he did it probably 15 times.
Sometimes I’d see urine in the kids bathtub, and on the edge of their tub. I knew it was him. There was no point in saying anything. A week before I said I wanted a divorce I got up to shower in the morning and he’d pissed all over the shower again. Not rinsed it down. Again. I lost it. I threw the bedroom door open and started screaming “HOW MANY MORE FUCKING TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU TO STOP PISSING IN THE FUCKING SHOWER?!” He just looked at me and calmly said, “I didn’t, and I’m a little tired of you always accusing me.” 

I wonder how long before he starts pissing on his new girlfriend. 

Working jointly? As if.

Things at home have been stressed. 

D has asked to see his dad on Sunday, but wishes to be brought home after dinner. X has agreed. My husband is terrified of losing D to this monster. He doesn’t want him to go. He has talked about adopting him. Its not realistic, but I understand why he’s saying it. We don’t want D to be made to feel badly about himself. We don’t want D to feel like he has to choose which parent he loves more. We just want him to be OK. Its unlikely that will happen, because, we know how crazy his dad is. All we can do is be his constant. We love and accept him just how he is. If he doesn’t want to see dad, then he doesn’t have to. But, if he does, then we need to let that happen too. 

A is due home today. A strongly worded letter was sent to X telling him to not allow A to contact me for more time, as it creates unnecessary conflict between A and I. 

Meanwhile, I attempted to make counseling appointments for the boys. My attempts have been thwarted by X.  

His email on Monday to my lawyer said that he had no issue with me transporting D. He didn’t want me making the appointments however, because in the past I’ve abruptly stopped taking him to his appointments.He wanted me to agree to taking him 1-2 times week (maybe he didn’t really get his law degree, maybe he’s actually a psychologist?). Also, he said I shouldn’t be allowed to sit in sessions with D. He doesn’t want me, you know, trying to convince the psychologist of all of the issues I think D has, but refuse to tell X about. Hmmm, I wonder where he would get that idea? 

He did agree to schedule appointments for A, and would be responsible for his transportation.

But then, then next day, we’re not sure what happened, but my best guess is that he told A that he was going to be starting counseling. Likely, A revolted. Probably A said No.

These were his words to my lawyer, “I cannot agree to allow her to do whatever she wants with the scheduling and it will most likely be best for both children if I take more of an active role anyway.  I am more than happy to work out an arrangement where she and I will be jointly responsible for establishing a regular schedule with the counselor that meets the needs of the children, whomever that may be, and sharing in the transportation of both children to and from those sessions.”

Uh, no.  I was willing to make the appointments for, and to take D because, well, YOU HAVEN’T SPOKEN TO HIM SINCE JANUARY! Plus, I want D to understand his own worth isn’t based how his shitty father treats him. I will take him because D trusts me. He knows I wouldn’t take him to a provider I didn’t trust. He doesn’t feel this way about his father.

 

A on the other hand, won’t go. I had to bribe him to go before. He refuses now. This is why I told X that he can do it. He can make A go…or try anyway. Supposedly, this was important to him, so, he can be a parent for once. Give it a try. He’ll get to see what it’s like to try to make A do something he doesn’t want to do. He can’t be a parent and a peer, so, he’ll throw it back onto me. I can be the parent. The bad guy. He can be the buddy, feeling bad for A that mom is making him do such stupid things. Just like always.

And….he wants to work jointly with me? How is that going to work? Should I just do what you say? Because that’s how its been since I’ve known you. As long as you get what you want we’re all ‘compromising’. Does he think saying it to my lawyer will some how confuse everyone into believing that he’s been the victim of MY crazy all this time? 

Three years of refusal to work with me. Three years of SAYING he was working with me. Three years of SAYING I wasn’t working with him. Three years of twisted bullshit logic about what ‘working with’ someone means.
In his emails to my lawyer he keeps saying he wants a speedy resolution to this matter…but its HIM who is dragging his feet. He’s had 2 FULL months to schedule these appointments himself. He has had a week and a half of disagreeing on my choice of provider and not once offered up another name. 

Its going to be a bitter pill to swallow when people realize that your actions speak louder than your words, and he doesn’t get what he wants. At least I hope so anyway. 

Far more difficult than it needs to be. Again.

I imagine that you all are as sick of my ex as I am. I like that about you guys. 

I had a long talk with A, though text message and on the phone yesterday. He wanted to stay with x until Saturday, and I said no. I said, again, that if Dad wants more time with you, he needs to talk to me. A said that dad won’t talk to me unless all he has to do is send an email to me confirming what A has negotiated. A missed the bus while he was on the phone with me. He said he didn’t have any of his things from Dads house. I suggested that he call dad, have him pick him up at school, take him to his house, get his belonging and be dropped off at home. Or, the other choice was that I could come and pick him up. He said he’d call his dad. 
 
So, I sent this message to X.
 
X,
I just got off the phone with A. He missed the bus and will be calling you for a ride.
He’s asked to not come home tonight, he wants to stay with you until Saturday. I said no, but would compromise with him being home today and tomorrow and if it was ok with you, you could keep him from Friday afterschool until Saturday evening.

He also told me that you want him to do all the work in getting me to agree to a schedule change so then all you have to do is send me an email to whatever effect A has managed to negotiate. Please stop putting him in that position. These kinds of conversations should be between you and I. Of course you can decided between you and A what works best for you two, but I don’t want to be speaking to him on your behalf.

Had I known you weren’t going to be available this coming weekend, we could have made arrangements prior to today regarding extra time for you with A, but again, this is not something I should be dealing with A about, I should be dealing with you.

Thanks,
Stacey

 
At the same time he was emailing me, so as soon as I sent this, I received this one from X:
 
A just called me and said I should come pick him up.  I am going to do that since it appears he has missed his bus.  He also said that you told him I am going to do whatever anyway.  Just so we are clear, he is almost 16 years old.  He wants to spend time with me as much as possible and I am ok with that, but this is his choice and not my idea… but I am not pulling the strings here as hard as that might be for you to understand.
 
 
I replied:
 
What I told him is that you need to communicate with me any schedule changes. If you wanted to tell me that you were keeping A until Saturday, that you could do that, and then I would likely disagree, then it would be up to you to go from there and do whatever you do. I was trying to make the point that I can’t do much to get A home if you dont hold up your end of the schedule. All I can do is ask to be notified of plans that change, and to express my position about them. 
 
 
I received no response to that. At 7:15 last night I sent this:
 
Our agreed upon schedule had A coming home today. When do you plan on bringing him home?
 
His reply was:
 
Lets be clear here.  I am not asking anyone to negotiate for anything more than we agreed to already.  A flat out denies that he said anything like what you just told me in your previous email.  It would be good if you would stop implying that in a written email, or any other form for that matter, as if it were fact,  That has not been the case EVER.  I ask for him to discuss with me what he would like and talk to him about it – because communicating is what I feel is appropriate for a parent to do.  Again, you are not going to control what I talk to my son about.  You are not going to control any part of the communication within me and A’s relationship.  If after talking to me I advise him that it would be wise to speak to you about his thoughts first, I see nothing wrong with that.  That is teaching him to be responsible and giving him a voice.  This infatuation with you thinking that it is me going through him for scheduling needs to stop.  If I have a schedule change that I want I will be sure to bring it to your attention.  I want the children 50% of the time because they are my children and we agreed to that already back in 2010.  If it is something schedule wise that HE wants, it is very appropriate for him to speak to you – because he is a young responsible adult who is capable of expressing his wants and needs.  As hard as this may be for you to accept, he is not speaking on my behalf but his own.  What happened today is a prime example of this.  I had nothing to do with him being with me this evening, it has everything to do with him wanting to be here and you giving him the green light.  If either child is stranded at school (or anywhere) on your day and you don’t want him to stay with me feel free to tell him that and go pick him up instead of telling him that “I am going to do whatever I want” and that they can in essence feel free to call on me to be the responsible parent and go get him.
 
My reply:
It sounds like you’re suggesting that I am to make all scheduling arrangements for A’s time with you, with A? And again, when do you plan bring A home?
 
I let him have the last word.
 
All?  I have already made all the scheduling arrangements with you that I am inclined to – Sun through Wed.  Anything beyond that will require you to listen to him.  I am not bringing A anywhere tonight, I already went and picked him up at school when you didn’t.

Not surprised

He is such an asshole.

Through Facebook I see the x will be taking A on Saturday. There is no mention of how long…so on Friday, as usual I email x and ask for when and where drop off and pick up will be. No response.
Saturday afternoon comes and A says he has to go, dad is in the parking lot.
I email x on Sunday morning asking when he plans on bringing A home. No response.

I text A and ask if he’ll be home tonight. He says ‘no’. I ask when he thinks he’ll be home. He says probably Thursday. 
I thank him for letting me know, tell him I love him and that I hope he has a good time.

Now I’m off to email my lawyer.

Lucky Lawyer Lady

I’ve been trying to organize all the information we have to give to our lawyer. If I’m going to pay someone to sift through the mountains of bullshit I’ve accumulated since Oct 2011, I can at least organize for them so maybe it won’t take them quite so long to wade through it. 

Wading through it isn’t an over statement, let me paint this picture for you…Conversations between X and A from October – December 2011 spans 74 pages. Three months of sporadic facebook instant messaging = 74 pages. Only 16 months to go. Lucky you, Lawyer Lady. 

 

X found out we got a lawyer last week. I know this because for the first time in 3 years he answered an email with compliance on the first try.

I sent this email on Friday. I can’t even tell you how many times I’ve sent this exact email over the last 6 months: 

If you would like to see A this weekend I need to know when and where you will be picking him and up and when and where you will be dropping him off.

Normally, in return I get no response or occasionally I’ll get “Friday to Sunday.” Or maybe even “after school Friday to Sunday.” Or like the last time “I don’t know. I can just make up random times if you want.”  But now with the power of a lawyer behind me, here is the response I get.

I will pick up A on Saturday after 12 at Irving Station and will drop him off by 8pm on Sunday at Irving Station. 

Huh. Well there. So he does actually have the ability to answer direct questions with actual information. Good to know, because frankly, I was beginning to think it was beyond his scope of intelligence. 

2 Conversations

He wanted A. I said ok, just tell me where and when. For someone who cannot stand to converse with me, he sure seems to like to hear from me. 

From: Unable to make a plan
To: Stacey 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: Mainecare

A wants to visit for the weekend.

______________

From: Stacey 
To: Unable to make a plan
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: Mainecare

Ok, I just need to know when and where you plan on picking him up and dropping him off.

Will you be allowing A to practice his driving?

_____________

 

From: Stacey 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:09 PM
To: Unable to make a plan
Subject: Fw: Mainecare

I’m sending this to you again, because I need to hear back from you about when and where you plan on picking up and dropping A off this weekend.

Thanks,
Stacey

____________________

 

From: Unable to make a plan
To: Stacey
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: Mainecare

No idea at this point, probably (brothers house) this afternoon.

_________________

 

From: Stacey
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:37 PM
To: Unable to make a plan
Subject: Re: Mainecare

I need to know when and where you plan on picking A up and dropping him off.

Thanks,
Stacey

___________________

 

From: Unable to make a plan
To: Stacey
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:00 PM
Subject: RE: Mainecare

I can just throw out a fake time and place if you want.  I told you I don’t know and did not have time to plan for it given the short amount of time given.  It will most likely be (brother house) after 5 tonight and Sunday afternoon at gas station.  We will need to discuss my seeing the boys 50% of the time when I return to Brewer at some point.

_____________________

 

From: Stacey 
To: Unable to make a plan
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: Mainecare
 
Thank you. If the plans of 5:30pm tonight to Noon drop off at the Brewer Irving on Sunday change, please let me know via email.
 
Thanks,
Stacey
 
______________
From: Stacey 
To: Unable to make a plan
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:46 PM
Subject: A

Please let me know when you’ll be bringing A home this evening.
 
thanks,
stacey
______________________
 
From: Stacey 
To: Unable to make a plna
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:52 PM
Subject: A
 
I just received a message from A saying he’d be home “eventually”. It is almost 9pm and he has school tomorrow, as I am sure you are aware.
He needs to be home no later than 10pm tonight.
 
Stacey
__________________
 
A got home around 9:30 last night. I never heard from his father. We will be retaining a lawyer on Thursday. I am tired. I don’t know why this has to be so difficult. It doesn’t have to be, and I guess that’s what makes me so angry. Meanwhile, on Friday, while he was trying to not answer me, he was also pulling the same shit with A.
 

A

Would you be able to pick me up from school

 

2:03pm

Dad

still waiting on my jeep bud

 

2:03pm

A

What about (your brothers) car

 

2:04pm

Dad

call mary, I think it would be fine though

this sucks!!!

 

2:05pm

A

Suck it up! I’ll drive I have my permit

 

2:05pm

Dad

fuck that

lol

 

2:05pm

A

Well then don’t be a little girl and come pick me up

 

2:06pm

Dad

how many hours you got so far?

 

2:06pm

A

Idk a couple

 

2:06pm

Dad

hahaha

we will see

 

2:06pm

A

Like 16ish

But rly come get me from the school

And you can talk to Edwards

 

2:09pm

Dad

I really dont have my jeep back from the garage yet, they are gonna call when its ready

 

2:09pm

A

Take (your brothers) car

 

2:09pm

Dad

I am in Winslow dumbass

 

2:10pm

A

Wtf

 

2:10pm

Dad

where did you think I was?

 

2:10pm

A

(brothers house)

 

2:13pm

Dad

oh, nope.

 

2:16pm

A

Okay well what time would you be in brewer

 

2:16pm

Dad

later on this evening

 

2:17pm

A

Time frame

 

2:23pm

Dad

sometime in the next 24 hours

 

2:24pm

A

Okay genius

 

2:24pm

Dad

 

3:13pm

A

(brothers house) at 5?

 

3:14pm

Dad

wtf – she misses lots. I said sometime after 5ish and maybe (brothers house)

 

3:15pm

A

okay well, 530 at (brothers house) sound good

 

3:20pm

Dad

hopefully

 

3:20pm

A

ok]

 

4:28pm

Dad

going to pick up jeep right now, should be there by 6ish

 

4:28pm

A

Ok

 

Waiting

The last I heard from my ex was that he would be returning A home ‘afternoon sunday’. Its after 8 pm now. Ex isn’t returning my emails. Of course he’s not. Why would he? Hes not going to bow to my need for ‘control’. Seriously.
I guess all I can do now is wait.

* Update:
A messaged me to say his dad has him at the old house and they are “working on it.” He also said for me to leave the back door unlocked, and he would be home “eventually.”

I emailed (I don’t know why, it does no good, documentation I guess) his father reminding him its a school night and A is to be home no later than 10pm.

Monday Revelation

I spent a long time being exhausted. They say that when you’re made to feel crazy all of the time, it causes your brain to work over time, making you, well…exhausted.

Anyway, I found a site yesterday that included a very long list of common things people who are involved with someone like my ex might hear from them, and then below it, what it really means. 40% of that list I’d heard word for word. Another 30% I’d heard some variation of.

It felt weird to have so many of the crazy things I’d heard at one time or another – over the course of a decade, all in one place. These aren’t the kinds of things I’d necessarily remember hearing, as it happened everyday, every conversation, all the time….I do, however, remember being shoved to the ground, I do remember being choked until I passed out during sex a number of times, I do remember being raped….but for some reason, I was able to, like many women, justify this. It was a one time thing, he thought I was into it, he didn’t know better… However, this massive list of things he’d say simply to keep me off balance, to keep me feeling nuts, to stay in control, good lord, this was ABUSE. For all those years, he managed to control me and my kids by making us feel guilty and crazy and unsure. Meanwhile, I’d try harder, I’d be nicer, I’d try to pay less attention to his temper tantrums and outbursts. I made excuses, I thought there was something wrong with me, I became whatever he wanted in any given moment, just to keep the peace….A just to feel like I was good enough. Turns out, there’s no such thing.

Over the last two years, I’ve become  aware that I was in an abusive relationship. But I sitting here reading this list yesterday, I really started grasping that I WAS ABUSED. Well, now, that’s quite a revelation for a Monday.

I’m understanding just how text book it was. It wasn’t special. I’ve realized that for all my trying, all my effort, all my wanting to be a good wife, to create a happy, stable, safe family – THAT is what he fed off of. That is where his control came from. I didn’t do anything wrong. And most importantly, I couldn’t have done anything to change it other than to leave.

So now what?

Side note, this song is playing on my pandora as I’m getting ready to send this along to the internet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPZuYwYxnL4

Fake it till you make it

Its all about power and control for him. When he doesn’t have it, he pretends that he does. Who does he think he’s fooling? Guess he’s adopting the “fake it till you make it” concept. Good luck with that.

From: ME
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:41 AM
To: X
Subject: resolution

I’m willing to negotiate with you, if you’d like to try to come to a resolution before the case management hearing. if you’re interested, please email me and let me know.

_________________________________________________

From: X
To: ME
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: resolution

As I have yet to formally be served with any forms or papers I have no idea what it is you are asking for at this time – although I certainly anticipate some areas.  I can say however that I am not sure that I trust you enough to hold valid any type of informal agreement that could possibly be reached based on your past disregard for such agreements we have made.  Further I suspect that a case management conference may not be the proper setting for the issues with which might present themselves moving forward.   But again I will need to wait and see what the papers you have filed are asking for before I commit to anything in particular.

Email from last night….

This is the email I received last night from my ex husband.
————-
2 things;
1.  A would like to visit me this summer.  D informed me that he is going to a camp.  Are you willing to pay for half of A’s ticket?
2.  I am having a hard time with my children attending your wedding to him.  If circumstances had played out differently things most certainly would be different, however a wedding is a celebration, and my children taking any part in it is tantamount to them celebrating the end of our family and all that has happened to achieve your goal.  I worry that the effects of them attending will only further the divide that has been created thus far on all levels.  They live with you now, there attendance is not needed.  I did not attend any of my parents future weddings because they were my parents and I valued the institution and what it stood for.  It just does not seem the best thing to do for all involved – I understand your need to have them there to in some way justify to yourself and the world that what you did and what happened was the best thing for you and them.  Not everyone agrees, and I have no doubt that friends and family would understand.  I am willing to set up a fun alternative plan for them for the whole week if you are ok with that and am suggesting this now so that there will be plenty of time to finalize plans. 
——————–

First of all, in later emailing he said the ticket would cost 1250, as he is going to be spending the summer in Hawaii, so he wants me to pay 625 dollars for ONE of my children to vacation in hawaii for three weeks. Secondly, D wasn’t invited. Thirdly, we have no idea where he came up with the idea that D is going to camp. We’ve never even discussed it.

I am already married. My new husband is amazing. He is my best friend and my rock. We are going to be renewing our vows. This celebration is about us, in love, and wanting to share that with our friends and family in a more formal ceremony than we had the first time.

And as for his take on marriage after divorce – sounds like he has some very skewed views on this. I also am compelled to point out that he and I DID, in fact, attend his mother’s second wedding. We did not attend his fathers second wedding, as we were not invited. Attendance at weddings is about showing support. He clearly doesn’t want his children supporting their mother.

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