Abuse in irc channel from part of moderator, for say him no need to be aggresive.

[ivan-vilches]

this is the way we want to grow this community?
http://imgur.com/a/rBuds

Banned for say to a moderator , no need to be aggressive?
What about the code of conduct?
https://github.com/nodejs/node/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md

[ivan-vilches]

i re joined and looks like he dont care respect for the users and konobi said: they have final words, so where is the respect for the community?
http://imgur.com/a/Sj2ao

[Fishrock123]

You already emailed report @ nodejs, please do not also create an issue.

I will investigate.

[ivan-vilches]

Thanks you Jeremiah, nothing to much to investigate its all in the screenshots.

[Fishrock123]

Please read though http://nodeirc.info/ -- the "official" rules for that channel are listed there.

Specifically, the IRC channels follow http://blog.izs.me/post/30036893703/policy-on-trolling -- I know that's not particularly clear, and a proper policy has been on my (and others') agenda for quite some time: nodejs/inclusivity#138

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#Node.js is not currently managed by "us" directly.

The rules for the channels are listed in their topics.

@ljharb was perhaps not polite, but if you decide to argue publicly (or even privately) with one of the OP's (Operators, +o) that is not our problem.

Please move this to the email thread if you have more comments. If you'd like to "appeal", you should DM ljharb on freenode irc.

[jasnell]

For the record, while the TSC does not have control over the #Node.js IRC channel, I see absolutely nothing in the screenshots that would justify a ban beyond a large degree of ego from ljharb. This kind of behavior on the part of an IRC moderator reflects poorly on Node.js in general.

Given that the TSC does not have or exercise moderation control over that IRC channel I recommend making a clear statement in the project README.md and website that we (the TSC) neither endorse or control that channel nor do we have any oversight over the actions of its moderator's.

When possible for me to do so I will open a PR with the proposed language.

[ljharb]

@jasnell If you'd like to PM me on freenode I'll be happy to explain what warranted the kick to your satisfaction.

The ban was because complaining about kicks and/or bans in the channel is explicitly disallowed, and always results in a ban - there's no ego involved there, merely enforcing the rules of the channel.

[jasnell]

@ljharb ... is that policy documented? Unless I've missed it, there does not appear to be any mention of it here: http://nodeirc.info/

[ljharb]

@jasnell http://blog.izs.me/post/30036893703/policy-on-trolling number 9. I have always understood http://nodeirc.info to be an unrelated attempt to document things, and has never (as far as I'm aware) had any ops involved - that said, the trolling policy is third under "important links".

[jasnell]

Thank you for the clarification!

[ivan-vilches]

Firt of all apologies for my lack english, I spoke with the moderator and he unbanned me , he explained me the rules of his channel and i tried to be clear i dont understand the rules, becouse quoting that trolling policy is ok, if someone is banned should or want to claim about some issue should be in pm that is my "faul", but what about the others rules about respect and manners for the users? what about hpw they are with the other people? i am about 23 years on programming world and is the first time i saw a moderation like that, my post right now here is not with the intention of find guilty, just show if some people take and represent an open source project and specially this amazing node project should be proud and feel honor to support it that kind of moderation is not showind that, and if node have on this official pages this channel they cant take the position of blind eyes or try this issue in "PM" . People needs respect we are trying to make a better world and rememeber we are not machines we are dealing with persons here. Right now i am unbanned but the true i dont feel i want to join that channel any more, i am trying to find another places for get information. I do not judge to the moderator we have all bad days, i just want the node community take more consideration in the future who is representing his project , that wil care the community. This is the way we can grow and do better things.
Thanks you very much @jasnell for your reply.