Talk:Hitler cabinet

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I am sorry @Beyond My Ken:, but I don't really see which part of WP:Flagcruft you are referring to. The infobox has a specific part for flags, so you cannot say that it is not appropriate to have a flag there. Furthermore, every single German cabinet page which employs this infobox, all have the German flag. For examples see: Second Adenauer cabinet, Merkel II, Merkel III & Merkel IV. Skjoldbro (talk) 09:03, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is unnecessary to proliferate the Nazi flag. Please leave it off. Beyond My Ken (talk) 09:34, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Johannes Popitz

Reverting changes by Tommy Craghead of 1 May 2021. The website source cited in support of the edit of May 1 does not name Popitz as a minister without portfolio but just as among “other participants” in cabinet meetings. Popitz was not named a minister without portfolio on 1 December 1933, as stated in the edit. Contemporaneous reports in the New York Times (2 December 1933, p.1) and the London Times (5-12-33, p.13) report only Hess and Rohm were appointed as ministers without portfolio on that date. Also, the numerous contemporaneous articles on Popitz in the "20th Century Press Archives" from 1934 to 1942 attached to his Wikipedia biographical article refer to him by title either as Prussian Finance Minister or State Secretary, never as Reichsminister. As Prussian Finance Minister, Popitz did indeed attend Reich cabinet meetings when issues within his area of responsibility were discussed, but he was not formally a Reich minister without portfolio in Hitler's cabinet. This is now more clearly addressed in the body of the article, with in-line citations.Historybuff0105 (talk) 18:55, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Is the 30 January 1933 membership correct?

Many sources claim the 30 January 1933 cabinet had Hitler as chancellor and that there were eight other members, for a total of 9. See for example https://ghdi.ghi-dc.org/sub_image.cfm?image_id=4369. Note that one of these is Günther Gereke.

The table in this Wikipedia article lists 11 members as of 30 January 1933 (two of which held two portfolios. It does not list Günther Gereke at all. According to the German Wikipedia article on him at https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_Gereke, (translated): "In Schleicher's cabinet, Gereke became Reich Commissioner for Employment and Eastern Settlement Commissioner and remained in this office until the beginning of 1933, beyond the change in government. He was therefore a member of Hitler's first cabinet, even if only for a few weeks."

The listing of 30 January 1933 cabinet members in the article thus appears to be wrong: too many members while missing one member. Perhaps some of the extra members joined in early 1933 after the cabinet was formed? If so, the dates should be corrected, and Gereke should be added. Johnmastell (talk) 14:16, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnmastell The article does not contain "too many" members of the original cabinet. The referenced photograph of nine cabinet members does not include Neurath, Gürtner and Eltz-Rübenach, all of whom were certainly members of the first cabinet. However, I agree that Gereke should be included in the article. This is based not only on the above-referenced German Wiki biographical article but also on his inclusion in the German article on the Hitler cabinet and, most convincingly, on the contemporaneous news stories in the New York Times (31 January 1933, p. 1 & 17 June 1933, p. 6) and the London Times (31 January 1933, p. 10) that described Gereke as a member of the cabinet, though without the title of Reichsminister. I will add him to the article, with supporting references. Thank you for bringing this issue to light. Historybuff0105 (talk) 20:18, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]