Talk:Edwin Jarvis

The status of Ultimate Jarvis

I removed the lgbt link. Ultimate Jarvis is gay, but the real Jarvis is not.

And until Ultimate Jarvis gets his own article, it's appropriate that the category link remain. CovenantD 23:47, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, you could also say that since Ultimate Nick Fury is black, tehere should be a link to "black superheroes" on the Nick Fury page. The fact is that they are two different charcters who share the same name. Since the majority of the article is about 616 Jarvis, I am deleting the link.

A spurious argument, since Ultimate Nick Fury has his own article, so there's no need to stick that category tag on the Nick Fury article. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 12:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Allright, yah smart aleck, it was an example. But, if you want to get testy, take Kestrel who is black in 616 and white in Ultimate. My point still remains the same. Unless it says "Ultimate Jarvis" IT'S NOT ABOUT ULTIMATE JARVIS. Why did Ultimate Nick get his own article in the first place? HE IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHARACTER!!! So, case closed.

Well, nothing's stopping you from categorizing Kestrel in African-American supervillains and Caucasian supervillains if those categories exist. The simple truth of the matter is that the LGBT comic book characters category does exist and is appropriate for this article, and given that people are reverting you, it appears that others agree as well. There are many merged articles with Ultimate and 616 versions simply because there's not enough information to warrant two articles. In the case of Ultimate Nick Fury, there is enough, that's why the article was split up. Yes, the case is closed, but not in your favor. Perhaps you may like to seek a Wikipedia:Third opinion? --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:47, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

The Nick Fury and Ultimate Nick Fury pages should be merged, since most other Marvel character who have Ultimate counterparts have both characters on the same page. Dr Archeville 19:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the unsigned user. Quote this very article: "Jarvis and Aunt May began to develop a romantic relationship." How can he be a LGBT character? In Earth X JJ Jameson was turned into a donkey. Is he listed under fictional donkeys? I think not! Alternate Dimension can some times be completely re-imagined or completely different characters with the same name or codename. A many a time they contradict each other. Since the article is called "Edwin Jarvis" and not "Ultimate Edwin Jarvis" I am removing the link. Besides the Ultimate character has all of two sentences to his name and, since he is now deceased, will be of far less importance to the MU than the 50+ year old butler who is is still kicking. If you must, Ultimate Jarv is a footnote- and footnotes, while noteworthy, aren't as important as the main article. User:Merlin Storm05:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Um, the B of LGBT is 'bisexual' so technically (though this is not the case for Jarvis) using Aunt May is an invalid example. Lots42 (talk) 09:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

And several other editors have expressed why it belongs, including a neutral third opinion. Your analogy to JJJ is a strawman argument at best because JJJ's basic character isn't a donkey. Until Ultimate Jarvis gets his own article, any categories should be listed here. CovenantD 16:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Third Opinion

After viewing many of the other articles in Category:LGBT characters in comics, it appears to be acceptable to list them there, even if only one of their "incarnations" was gay. So, even though Edwin Jarvis is not gay, Ultimate Jarvis is, so the LGBT category is appropriate. I hope this helps to resolve this dispute. If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. Amalas =^_^= 17:57, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Jarvis is not Ultimate Jarvis. It's like comparing apples and an orange dipped in red food coloring. Lots42 (talk) 22:26, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Mother

Doesn't Jarvis support his mother on his Avengers salary? I seem to remember seeing her in one old comic.

And what's up with Jarvis going from balding and thin (Avengers #400) to fat and grey in Perez/Busiek issues? I can understand the grey but not the fat. Jarvis is too smart for that, considering his line of work.

Lots42 01:48, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Removing "bitch" from the article

In the appropriate "Civil War" trade, Jarvis says that is Stark lets that "Tigra %^#$" back into the Avengers he can find someone else to do the laundry. The author of part of the main article has quoted "%^#$" as "bitch", and that's an understandable reach, but its not accurate.

The author of the piece also has Jarvis saying he'll quit - that's not clear either because Jarvis is a butler, not a personal valet. Butlers don't do laundry. Also, Jarvis experiences a sort of breakdown when he doesn't have Avengers to care for: at the start of the Busiek run, for example. I'm just saying that you should quote the line and let readers seek their own interpretation, rather than extrapolating likely explanations.

Jarvis is Jarvis. I'm sure he'd do laundry if needed. And what's with him hating on Tigra. Tigra -supported- Iron Man! Lots42 06:17, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

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Tigra

I think Jarvis' post-Civil-War thoughts on Tigra should be mentioned more nuetrally but I am unsure as to what exactly...Lots42 (talk) 09:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I see such thoughts are duplicated in the redundant 'personal life' section. That needs to be merged. My concerns were for the regular bio section. Lots42 (talk) 09:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

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Real Jarvis or not

Any details on when Jarvis was replaced by a Skrull should be heavily referenced. Partly because noteable events happened around this time, like 'Jarvis' being shot clean through the shoulder by a disgruntled employee. I wonder how the Skrulls deal with injuries like that. Lots42 (talk) 12:53, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

J.A.R.V.I.S.

This article (and it's not alone) treats the computer version of Jarvis as having originated in the movie, completely ignoring the 90s animated series.