Talk:Veggie burger

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Fun thought

Fun thought -- it is not unknown for people to order a veggie burger with bacon. Haikupoet 04:41, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

I think the article focuses too heavily on the idea of veggie burgers being a 'substitute' for meat burgers, when many varieties (particularly 'spicy bean burgers') have their own distinctive taste. I am not vegetarian but will sometimes have a veggie burger (or any other 'vegetarian' option for that matter) simply because it's what I want to have.

Might also be worth a mention that at McDonald's at least, it often takes them longer to prepare the veggie burgers, since they have to be cooked to order due to low demand. 128.232.250.254 23:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Often it is good to have things cooked to order.--Badmuthahubbard 21:16, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

NPOV

under benefits, health reasons is listed. This may or may not be correct but no reasons are provided to give a definite conclusion. BadCRC 01:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

good now? Bob A 00:43, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

well that is fixed but the whole moral reasons still kinda make it not NPOV, although I suppose it is sufficient. BadCRC 01:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Mcdonaldsindia link is broken, and it does not seem like there is a new, appropriate link. As this is a rference, I am not sure how it should be fixed. Any susggestions? Bjjohns (talk) 18:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Concerns about Soy Consumption and This Article

A user named Kellen, who is apparently a vegan, has removed information from this article that disputes the health benefits of soy-based burgers. Since soy-based burgers comprise the majority of veggie burgers sold in markets, at least in my part of the world, and are marketed as "health food," the debate about their safety is certainly relevant. What I wrote was just a blurb linked to Wikipedia's main article about soy. Kellen's logic that all comments about soy-safety should be limited to an article about the raw ingredient "soy" and not articles about the most popular soy products seems highly specious. If Kellen feels that there is other evidence that exonerates soy consumption as safe, I suggest that Kellen add this information and expand the article. --ManicBrit 19:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Your citations are questionable and as I said (a) in my edit summary and (b) on the veganism talk page, the dangers of soy consumption belong in the article on soy, not in articles on every possible product which contains soy. Kellen^T 08:33, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

They do not have the same taste and texture as a real meat burger.

as a vegetarian this is not always a bad thing...

In the same way as some veggie burgers are similar to meat is not necessarily a good thing. Which is the same point as above - this article is written from a meat eaters POV - or at least it seems that way - I will have a reread and suggest alternatives..

Ophelia105 19:50, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

First

So, who invented the first veggie burger? I can recall hearing of tofu burgers as early as the 1970s. They were mentioned in "Ruthless People." Morningstar Farms might be added to the list of popular vburgs. Flatulence concerns are not addressed, lol. This page could be linked from "soybean" or "borborygmus." Agriculture and ecology could be mentioned, such as huge soy surpluses.--Badmuthahubbard 21:16, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Tastes like a real burger?

Are there any veggie burgers that tast like real burgers cause i tried a boca burger and was left un satisfied. I think I'll go eat a burger when wendys opens up --151.203.252.243 13:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I've tasted dozens of veggie burgers, and the one that most resembles beef (as far as I can remember the taste of beef) is/was made by Bird's Eye, but only in the UK. The Veggie Burger available in MacDonald's in the UK is also pretty meat-like. Wordwide, Linda McCartney veggie burgers (and even more so, sausages) are perhaps the best choice for somebody looking for a meat-like burger experience. However, I think that one should consider that a beefburger has its own taste, just a chicken burger has its own taste, so there's nothing wrong with a veggie burger having its own taste. And there are hundreds of styles of veggie burgers, each with a different taste and texture. A veggie burger is an alternative, not always just a 1 for 1 substitute for a beefburger. Taiko666 05:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

New image suggestion

Veggie burger on a plate

I propose that we replace the current image on this page with this one, which I took tonight before I ate. It's a little crisper than the current one and presents the patty itself more directly. Djk3 (talk) 04:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I'm just going to add it, since this article doesn't seem to be very active. If anybody has any objections, do what you will.  :) Djk3 (talk) 04:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

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History

Morningstar Farms claims to be the "original" veggie burger in the U.S. Not sure that's anything more than marketing hype, but it might be worth checking out if someone's interested in more detailed history. Beland (talk) 19:16, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Vegetarian Fastfood chains (reference to on-going discussion)

Hi guys, if you're interested in the topic of a vegetarian fastfood chain restaurant list, please join the discussion here: Talk:List_of_vegetarian_restaurants. Thanks! --Never stop exploring (talk) 10:56, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

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semi-protected edit request on 27 December 2019

There's a newly burger called McVeggie pls redirect it into this article. 180.67.14.197 (talk) 02:08, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

•  Done Utopes (talk) 04:48, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

History of veggieburgers

I suggest that we expand this article with (or develop a complementary article on) 'History of veggieburgers' (noting availability as dried mixes, experimentation with vegetable sandwiches, arguments about what could properly be CALLED 'a veggieburger' (vs. vegetable sandwiches, portabella mushroom sandwiches), and various forms taken by businesses trying to support emerging demand for meatless sandwiches that looked, smelled, and tasted like meat/burgers. Organizing such a discovery process ought not to be that difficult for those familiar with those times and efforts. Online discussion development has been available since at least 2014. MaynardClark (talk) 02:48, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

If that article exists, perhaps it should have a link to this article rather than a redirect. Is that not a commercial product? MaynardClark (talk) 02:52, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Why should a commercial product from that company be featured over other products, efforts, forms of advocacy, culinary history, and formal and informal attempts that preceded the effort by a corporate burger giant getting late into the market? Let's talk a moment. Years ago, when Paul Wenner (and Steve Sinovic) were growing the Gardenburger concept (starting in the early 1980s), the veggieburger efforts had been going for decades. However, when their company took the product into Asia and made it international in the mid-90s, their stock had 'shot up' to over $28/share. But with competition, it became a penny stock. They may have been the very first veggieburger to be advertised on the final two episodes of Seinfeld (which reportedly destroyed their advertising budget and gave opportunity for their competitors, such as Adventist-incubated Worthington Foods of Worthington, Ohio, later sold to Kellogg Company - 2015?, to enter the veggieburger space in a big way). Thus, Kellogg Company ended up owning competitors Wholesome and Hearty Foods or Portland, Oregon, and Worthington Foods of Worthington, Ohio, and 'GardenChef' Paul Wenner (CEO of Gardenburger/Wholesome and Hearty Foods) become a consultant to Kellogg Company. Paul Wenner went on to found another food company, GardenChef Paul, which is active incubating experimental green vegan foods.

See also:

• Beyond Meat
• cellular agriculture

• Impossible Foods
• List of meat substitutes

• List of vegetarian and vegan companies
• La Loma Foods

• Miles Laboratories
• Morningstar Farms

• Nuteena
• plant-based diet

• Veganism
• Vegetarianism

IMO, the long history of the Seventh-Day Adventists in vegetarian and vegan food production is part of the history of meatless foods including plantmilks and veggieburgers, and thus part of America's religious history, also. MaynardClark (talk) 03:06, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

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