User talk:216.170.48.162

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September 2018

Please do not add or significantly change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did with this edit to Iowa Hawkeyes football. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 14:22, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

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November 2018

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. UW Dawgs (talk) 22:35, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

September 2020

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Iowa Hawkeyes football, you may be blocked from editing. UW Dawgs (talk) 15:47, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

August 2021

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Iowa Hawkeyes football, you may be blocked from editing. UW Dawgs (talk) 17:07, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Materialscientist, I went back to 2019 and found only one problematic edit, this one, but that's not vandalism--there is an attempt to source, albeit not a valid one with our guidelines. I would like for you to reconsider this block. UW Dawgs, what edit triggered your warnings? The edits from 2020 and 2021 were NOT vandalism. Drmies (talk) 17:28, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

The immediately-above templates lead with "disruptive editing."

IP has modified Nebraska-Iowa (rivalry) content on the Iowa article in 2018 in a non-controversial manner:

1. [1]
2. [2]
3. [3]

While subsequently engaged in longterm DE / NOTHERE behavior on the Iowa article without use of edit summaries:

1. "Legitimate NatlTitles = 00 (Never)" [4]
2. "It is important to note that no one else in the country recognizes this as a legitimate National Championship." [5]
3. "Significantly more people believe Iowa's fictitious claim to the 1958 National Championship is a sham." [6]
4. "The rest of the country thinks it's adorable." [7]
5. Added stray text / markup [8]
6. Same (invalid/incomplete citation) [9]
7. Replaced text and the supporting citation with "Citation needed."[10]
8. Introduces a non-standard header with the appearance minimizing the factual basis of the cited content [11]
9. Misrepresentation of a citation with the appearance minimizing the factual basis of the cited content [12]

Clearly there is both longterm DE and NOTHERE behavior. UW Dawgs (talk) 18:53, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

UW Dawgs, the vandalism is from 2018. This is not vandalism. It's inept, but it's not vandalism. This is an attempt to improve upon the previous edit by adding ref tags: that you would denounce them for that also is pretty low. This--meh. Hard to guess at intentions. The citation they removed was primary and maybe they disputed that. This--OMG someone introduces a non-standard heading--let's ban them for life! The relevant fact/explanation is in the last sentence. And this--seriously, WTF? The reference verified the claim. It's not "misrepresentation": it's the NCAA's list of championships they recognize. And this whole "appearance" is just your interpretation. Shall I propose banning you because you twice make a grammatical mistake, leaving out the preposition "of" after "appearance"? Come on now. Drmies (talk) 20:33, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

"And this--seriously, WTF? The reference verified the claim. It's not "misrepresentation": it's the NCAA's list of championships they recognize." ??? No, it absolutely is not. The NCAA does not award or "recognize" any national championships at the FBS level. Full stop. They do award at the FCS level and lower. And they do publish selections of major selectors in FBS.

The SPA's NCAA.com (Turner - "NCAA.COM IS A PART OF BLEACHER REPORT - TURNER SPORTS NETWORK, PART OF THE TURNER SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT NETWORK.") citation contains selections from a subset of the NCAA's designated major selectors in FBS. It is not a comprehensive list. That specific page is very confusing to newish editors and apparently the SPA. This exact URL/citation has been repeatedly debunked, including prior discussions: ​here, here, here, and here

In the most recent edit, the SPA's framing was "The NCAA does not recognize Iowa's claim to national championships in 1921, 1922, 1956, or 1960." which is highly misleading AND unsourced. The NCAA reports on (republishes) the selections made by major selectors within FBS (2020 FOOTBALL BOWL SUBDIVISION RECORDS, p. 112-126). To the extent a reader might think the SPA's claim is "proven" by NCAA.com citation, then that prose can ALSO be "disproven" by ncaa.org, pg 115, 117 (cite:) where the NCAA's comprehensive list includes and "recognizes" Iowa's "claim". So there is a clear disconnect with prose and citation in this edit, where citing an absence from a NCAA.com partial list is contradicted by presence in a NCAA.org comprehensive format -which we use throughout project articles.

This is a continuation of the SPA's DE edits. YMMV, which is fine. Check both the page history re other IPs/SPAs and the PP log, where this has been an issue for the last 2 years. Cheers, UW Dawgs (talk) 14:07, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

UW Dawgs, I am having a very hard time following you. I don't know what you mean with "DE edits". The "PP log" (page protection, I guess?) shows only one temporary semi-protection, for two days. If there are are SPAs, point to em: I am not going to go through the entire history to figure out who did what and what it might be connected to--never mind that an IP is not an "account", so an IP can't really be an SPA. This one is pretty static but that doesn't have to be the case. The whole national championship and what the NCAA has to say on the matter is hardly clear, and all the links to previous reports/discussions, well, you could have put those on the IP's talk page last year. Then you could make a better case. But I can't judge from their edits whether in that last edit they purposely misrepresented the role of the NCAA and the strength of that page that lists championships.

Materialscientist, I have not heard back from you. It is my conviction that this IP's history is not sufficient warrant to place a month-long block. If they had been explained, on their talk page, what all this stuff posted by UWDawgs means, that would have been a different matter. From what I can tell, they were warned, in 2018, about a lack of proper sourcing, and they made an edit that did have a source--how reliable that is, whether it really verifies what they think or claim it verifies, that's another matter. I'm going to unblock, but I will place a partial block for that page; they can make their case on the talk page. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:21, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

August 2021

What you are doing on Iowa Hawkeyes Football is not helpful; I have blocked you from editing that page for two years. You may take your case to the talk page. Suggestion: on a collaborative project, try to collaborate. Drmies (talk) 16:24, 20 August 2021 (UTC)