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Latest comment: 2 months ago by Yukielgato in topic Propelant Transfer Demo
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Propelant Transfer Demo
editAcording to NASA, it was succesful Yukielgato (talk) 12:34, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Yukielgato: Please provide a source. Nosferattus (talk) 00:06, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Check X Yukielgato (talk) 15:48, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- X/Twitter is not WP:RS, see WP:TWITTER. Use a more reliable source. 187.46.134.26 (talk) 04:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2024/03/starship-3rd-time/
- "SpaceX were able to complete the Payload door test and the cryogenic transfer test" Redacted II (talk) 17:37, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Completing a test doesn't mean it's successful. This source doesn't support an outcome because the data is being reviewed. This is exactly what NASA says: "The propellant transfer demonstration operations were completed, and the NASA-SpaceX team is currently reviewing the flight data that was received." Redraiderengineer (talk) 17:54, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but with the information available, the correct label is success. Redacted II (talk) 17:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- SpaceX isn't calling it a success yet. They say the same thing as the other sources.
- Starship "initiat[ed] a propellant transfer demonstration" and "results from these demonstrations will come after postflight data review is complete." Redraiderengineer (talk) 18:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Several RS are calling it a success, though. Redacted II (talk) 18:33, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Please stop editing the propellent transfer demo to say successful. Unless there is an official source/statement, the outcome of the event should be considered as unknown as any unofficial sources can be speculation. Davidv15123 (talk) 13:45, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- There are reliable sources that say it was a success. In fact, IIRC, secondary sources (such as the one being used) are preferred over primary sources. Redacted II (talk) 14:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please stop editing the propellent transfer demo to say successful. Unless there is an official source/statement, the outcome of the event should be considered as unknown as any unofficial sources can be speculation. Davidv15123 (talk) 13:45, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Several RS are calling it a success, though. Redacted II (talk) 18:33, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps "Completed, result pending data review" until more information becomes available? this NASA source uses the word "completed" specifically:
- "One objective closely tied to future Artemis operations is the transfer of thousands of pounds of cryogenic propellant between internal tanks during the spacecraft’s coast phase as part of NASA’s Space Technology Missions Directorate 2020 Tipping Point awards. The propellant transfer demonstration operations were completed, and the NASA-SpaceX team is currently reviewing the flight data that was received. This Tipping Point technology demonstration is one of more than 20 development activities NASA is undertaking to solve the challenges of using cryogenic fluids during future missions."
- Just to be a smidge pedantic though, a well executed experiment is technically a good experiment even if it doesn't give you the answer you were hoping for. :D From this statement, they seem care more about studying the general problem than between these two specific tanks. Foonix0 (talk) 18:39, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- This seems like a good balance, and I've changed the wording to match. Redraiderengineer (talk) 18:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, y was wrong, that Is the best option Yukielgato (talk) 17:57, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- This seems like a good balance, and I've changed the wording to match. Redraiderengineer (talk) 18:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, but with the information available, the correct label is success. Redacted II (talk) 17:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Completing a test doesn't mean it's successful. This source doesn't support an outcome because the data is being reviewed. This is exactly what NASA says: "The propellant transfer demonstration operations were completed, and the NASA-SpaceX team is currently reviewing the flight data that was received." Redraiderengineer (talk) 17:54, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- X/Twitter is not WP:RS, see WP:TWITTER. Use a more reliable source. 187.46.134.26 (talk) 04:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Check X Yukielgato (talk) 15:48, 20 March 2024 (UTC)