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SPH radio articles

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@Justlettersandnumbers: @Sammi Brie: @Somebodyidkfkdt: @Mi48307: @TheGreatSG'rean: @Robertsky: it appears we have a create/merge war here. Justlettersandnumbers, would you mind explaining why you feel the radio stations are not notable? By the way, you reverted them to Singapore Press Holdings, which no longer owns the stations but passed them to SPH Media Trust. Mi48307, you recreated some of the articles without consulting others even though it was controversial. So lets have this discussion now. Pinging Robertsky for help in moderating this discussion. Also linking to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UFM100.3 for related deletion discussion. --Officer781 (talk) 15:56, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

There appears to be a double standard here. Articles for Mediacorp and So Drama radio stations exist, so if they are also not notable, we should apply the same standard too. Thing is, these radio stations exist in Singapore. It is common practice to have articles on them. If we decide the articles should be resurrected, we need strong sources. Thanks. TheGreatSG'rean (talk) 16:43, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

@TheGreatSG'rean, the problem is this.

Our sourcing for the SPH stations is little more than official material. There is not much independent coverage. The articles themselves all needed pruning of some really blatantly promotional phrasing, e.g. Kiss92 gives fans All The Great Songs in One Place and entertains with a team of DJs brimming with fun, energy, and knowledge.

When a topic exists and may be a plausible search term, but there is insufficient coverage in reliable sources for it to meet the WP:GNG, the next step is to redirect to an article on the parent company and mention it there. See WP:NOPAGE. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:06, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the ping, Officer781. Our guidelines for the notability of companies and organisations are here. I restored the redirects at 96.3 Hao FM, ONE FM 91.3 and Kiss92 FM because the first two did not have enough independent reliable sources (one each) to permit evaluation of their notability, and the third had no sources at all. Each of them contained a claim that it was owned by SPH Media Trust, but that was, like most of the rest of the content, unsourced, so I simply restored the earlier redirect. I see that you've changed them to redirect to the page you recently created, but it's unsourced there too. Please read WP:BURDEN; unsourced content can simply be removed. Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:21, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Alright, I have added a source: [1] which is supposed to list most of the brands under SPH Media Trust which I have added to the page. Removed the magazines that were not supported by this source. I might do some other cleanup on this page. Other pinged editors could also help if you know of sources to add. @TheGreatSG'rean: if you have sources for the SPH radio articles please add them if you wish to resurrect the pages.--Officer781 (talk) 23:53, 8 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

I'll try. Can't promise that I can have any neutral sourcing at the moment, but I will make sure the drafts do not contain any promotional material. Only just how the radio station started. TheGreatSG'rean (talk) 00:16, 9 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

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