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==Image copyright problem with Image:Cream1993.jpg==

 

Ya think maybe cause 'ginger' is used as a nickname for people with red hair? That be my guess. [[Special:Contributions/184.77.158.71|184.77.158.71]] ([[User talk:184.77.158.71|talk]]) 23:00, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

 

== Deleting (possibly unintentional) vandalism ==

 

Somebody either knowingly or cluelessly added "facts" about Ginger Baker assaulting two burglars (taken from a satirical website). [[Special:Contributions/160.111.254.17|160.111.254.17]] ([[User talk:160.111.254.17|talk]]) 14:05, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

 

== Selection of photo used above the bio summary ==

 

Who selects the photo that sits above the summary information (top right of page) and why did they chose such a poor image when there are thousands of images available (with and without drum kit) that portray Ginger Baker's character /persona far better than the one selected? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/94.173.223.170|94.173.223.170]] ([[User talk:94.173.223.170#top|talk]]) 00:42, 13 January 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

 

== A pioneer in jazz fusion drumming ==

 

:[[Paul Tingen]] wrote on page 50 in his 2001 book ''Miles Beyond'' that Cream's Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce considered themselves jazz musicians "and with sets featuring extensive collective improvisations, the band was one of the pioneers of jazz-rock." Of course jazz-rock is jazz fusion. Tingen is saying that Baker and Bruce were the reason that Cream was pioneering the fusion genre. Music author Brock Helander writes that "Ginger Baker instituted the long drum solo into rock, a phenomenon that became almost obligatory" for live stage shows. But he contradicts Baker as "pioneer" by saying that, of all three Cream musicians, "Jack Bruce was the real musical pioneer" for his bass ostinato "heavy riff" style above which he played lead, thereby freeing the bass from its purely rhythmic role. Helander follows this by pointing out that Eric Clapton "unwittingly created the cult of the super-star guitarist...", making each of the three Cream players important for establishing something new. All of this is on page 141 of ''The Rock Who's Who'' (1996). I've seen sources that say [[Tony Williams (drummer)]] was single-most important pioneer of jazz fusion drumming, so let's not place Baker above that. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 15:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

 

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==Conflicting death places==

The infobox states that Baker died in Canterbury, yet later in the article it is stated that he died in Margate. I also found that Kent Live reported that he died in Canterbury. Can anyone clarify this? [[User:Joelson98|Joelson98]] ([[User talk:Joelson98|talk]]) 23:03, 21 November 2020 (UTC)