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L&D needs to stop talking about learning, with Cathy Hoy – episode 332

The TJ PodcastAug 31, 2026
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L&D needs to stop talking about learning, with Cathy Hoy – episode 332

L&D needs to stop talking about learning, with Cathy Hoy – episode 332

Should L&D leaders stop talking about learning?

In the latest TJ podcast, Jo Cook speaks with Cathy Hoy about what it really takes to step up as an L&D leader.

They discuss commercial confidence, getting closer to the business, moving beyond delivery, the limits of obsessing over ROI, and why strategic thinking needs protected time.

A particularly strong challenge from Cathy: if you want to lead L&D, understand the business first.

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⁠TJ L&D Influence Report 2026⁠

⁠Contribute to our continuing research!⁠

CLO100Edited with Camtasia from ⁠⁠TechSmith

Aug 31, 202617:07
Building L&D influence in a changing world, with Don Taylor - episode 331

Building L&D influence in a changing world, with Don Taylor - episode 331

Jo Cook is joined by Donald H Taylor to explore what L&D needs to do differently in a rapidly changing world. They discuss why showing value has become an urgent priority, what strategic influence really looks like, the skills L&D Leaders need to develop, and how AI is reshaping the profession. They also consider the impact of Covid, uncertainty about L&D’s future and whether we’re losing some of the conversational skills that underpin relationships, listening and influence at work.

Links from the podcast:

TJ L&D Influence Report 2026

Contribute to our continuing research!

Don Taylor's Global Sentiment Survey 2026

Edited with Camtasia from ⁠TechSmith

Aug 16, 202618:37
The rise of the supermanager: Why AI transformation still needs human leadership - episode

The rise of the supermanager: Why AI transformation still needs human leadership - episode

Jo Cook speaks with Julia Bersin from The Josh Bersin Company about the rise of the “supermanager” in the age of AI. They explore why managers remain vital to trust, adoption and performance as organisations invest in AI tools. Julia shares research insights on how managers can use AI to become better people leaders, while helping their teams experiment, learn and adapt.


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TJ article including transcript (TBC)

Research download

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Learning’s human heartbeat: L&D then and now – episode 329
Nov 27, 202516:47
Beyond courses: How AI transforms L&D into a strategic business partnership – episode 328
Nov 07, 202527:03
From talk to transformation – the art of effective facilitation – episode 327
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NotebookLM, Neuroscience and magazine flashback - episode 326
Nov 24, 202418:19
Reflections on a week in the life series - episode 325
Nov 05, 202427:03
Gender, AI, and the pursuit of equity - episode 324
Oct 09, 202438:34
News Insight: Lots of stress and overwhelm, fears about skills and digital timeout - episode 323
Oct 02, 202405:25
News Insight: Intelligent managers, work-related stress and job-hopping - episode 322
Sep 04, 202403:37
News Insight: Switching off, diversity dive in, cybersecurity report - episode 321
Aug 21, 202403:12
News Insight: AI framework, memory formation and increased demand for employee support - episode 320
Aug 14, 202405:51
News Insight: High temperatures, AI boom threatened, fertility challenges at work and Fiverr is now a freelance hiring platform - - episode 319
Jul 31, 202403:19
Disruption in work and learning - episode 318
Jul 22, 202436:43
News Insight: AI, productivity killers, disability inclusion event and more - episode 317
Jul 17, 202404:11
News Insight: workload increase, skills development paradox and sustainability - episode 316
Jul 09, 202402:49
News Insight: freelancing, HR you wouldn't recommend and hope - episode 315
Jul 03, 202403:03
AI and L&D: enhancing human capability - episode 314
Apr 06, 202434:53
Artificial intelligence in L&D - episode 313
Feb 22, 202432:53
Challenges and practitioner focus - episode 312
Jan 26, 202433:55
L&D predictions and hopes for 2024 - episode 311
Jan 11, 202437:13
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January 2024 Teaser

Coming soon...!

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The TJ Podcast: December 2021

The TJ Podcast: December 2021

After a bit of a break the TJ Podcast is back! With a new format, this month we discuss mentoring with Rashim Mogha from Skillsoft, Jenn Labin from MentorcliQ, and Ady Howes from Digital Skills people - the fabulous Jo Cook is your host 

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#TJtalks: Jon Kennard on his time as editor of TJ

#TJtalks: Jon Kennard on his time as editor of TJ

Co-host Jo Cook turns the tables on Jon to look at his tenure of TJ since becoming editor back in 2017. 

Sep 28, 202135:07
The TJ Podcast: September 2021

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Here it is, friends. Have a listen as we very briefly wrap up four years of great audio content.

(I'm hoping my replacement will carry it on)

Sep 21, 202135:08
#TJtalks: Paul Matthews on defining learning workflow

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He's back! Paul Matthews makes a return to the TJ podcast interview series to discuss his newest interest: learning workflows. For technical reasons too boring to explain there's no intro from Jon, but the conversation with Paul is as good as ever. 

Sep 13, 202112:08
#TJtalks: Jane Rennie on resilience in hospitality, remote worker loneliness and more
Aug 27, 202118:09
The TJ Podcast: August 2021
Aug 18, 202148:26
#TJtalks: Hannah Ford on resolving workplace tensions around furlough
Aug 13, 202110:55
#TJtalks: Renato Profico on joining Doodle and their research into workplace meetings
Aug 09, 202107:26
#TJtalks: Andrew Jacobs on women talking about learning
Aug 06, 202114:38
In conversation with Thinqi: Part three - learning analytics

In conversation with Thinqi: Part three - learning analytics

The final part: Join TJ editor Jon Kennard as he concludes his conversation with Steve Finch, head of customer success at digital learning experts Thinqi, and Krystyna Gadd, founder of How to Accelerate Learning and author of 'How Not To Waste Your Money On Training'. In the final episode they talk vanity metrics, triangulation, analytics tips and much more.

Aug 06, 202132:04
#TJtalks: Alison Jones on the world of business book publishing
Jul 23, 202115:58
The TJ Podcast: July 2021
Jul 21, 202147:33
In conversation with Thinqi: Part two - learning design

In conversation with Thinqi: Part two - learning design

Part two of a three-part special: Join TJ editor Jon Kennard as he carries on his conversation with Steve Finch, head of customer success at digital learning experts Thinqi, and Krystyna Gadd, founder of How to Accelerate Learning and author of 'How Not To Waste Your Money On Training'. In episode two they talk death by Zoom, the false dichotomy of going back to face to face or not, positive learning design and more.

Jul 20, 202125:23
#TJtalks: Steve Knapp on sales skills, trends and strategy
Jul 19, 202116:16
#TJtalks: Judy Parfitt on the Healthy Hybrid Working report
Jul 14, 202112:03
In conversation with Thinqi: Part one - collaborative and social learning

In conversation with Thinqi: Part one - collaborative and social learning

A three-part special: Join TJ editor Jon Kennard as he chats to Steve Finch, head of customer success at digital learning experts Thinqi, and Krystyna Gadd, founder of How to Accelerate Learning and author of 'How Not To Waste Your Money On Training'. In episode one they discuss social learning, collaborative learning, 70:20:10, the effects of the pandemic and much much more.

Jul 13, 202125:02
#TJtalks: Amanda Simpson on mentoring, leadership and management
Jul 06, 202113:21
#TJtalks: Phil Friedman on AR in 2021
Jul 02, 202112:14
#TJtalks: Noorie Sazen on resilience and TfL
Jun 29, 202120:20
#TJtalks: Dr. Nerina Ramlakhan on stress, sleep and thriving
Jun 25, 202112:41
#TJtalks: Joanne Lockwood on supporting trans people in the workplace
Jun 24, 202108:40
The TJ Podcast: June 2021
Jun 22, 202150:08
#TJtalks: Joanna Rawbone on getting the most from introverts
Jun 15, 202119:46
#TJtalks: Chris Hadfield on the film crew model
Jun 08, 202109:59